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lullabelle Sep 29th 2011 4:40 am

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 9647037)
Don't think you are alone in industries where people get ****ed over, you ought to try construction for a while.
Interesting post by the way, but it seems to me more like you are floundering with the unfamiliar local ways and customs and hating your own inability to cope rather than hating the place.
I am feeling all analytical today :eek:

Ha! Floundering suggests I am waving my arms about in distress when the reality is that I am making a very definitive hand gesture which would put me in the Bur Dubai Hilton for a few weeks. I'm not in despair, I'm livid.

The ****ing over was done by westerners, mostly Brits. Who would all have copyright cases slapped on them if I was at home. I've yet to be ****ed over by unfamiliar locals and their unfamiliar ways. I must try it sometime.

co durham boy Sep 29th 2011 4:51 am

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by lullabelle (Post 9647462)
Ha! Floundering suggests I am waving my arms about in distress when the reality is that I am making a very definitive hand gesture which would put me in the Bur Dubai Hilton for a few weeks. I'm not in despair, I'm livid.

The ****ing over was done by westerners, mostly Brits. Who would all have copyright cases slapped on them if I was at home. I've yet to be ****ed over by unfamiliar locals and their unfamiliar ways. I must try it sometime.

The love / hate relationship with an expat existence . The minute you start to except the things that make you explode with rage and disgust you is the minute you've been institutionalized by your surroundings.

When you're surrounded by so much bullshit and wrongdoing you do wonder whether it's yourself that is going mad .

The grass is always greener on the other side until someone pisses on it ;)

Sandboy Sep 29th 2011 5:19 am

Re: Homesickness
 
I'm off to court again this morning - the 21st time for a case started in 2009

I know we'll win
I know they'll appeal
I know that'll delay it another 6 months
I know we probably won't get paid... ever

but I also know that the sun will shine tomorrow and I will be with good friends and unlimited cold beer and will feel ready to start again on Sunday morning provided Sunderland don't let me down on Saturday :D

co durham boy Sep 29th 2011 5:54 am

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by Sandboy (Post 9647481)
I'm off to court again this morning - the 21st time for a case started in 2009

I know we'll win
I know they'll appeal
I know that'll delay it another 6 months
I know we probably won't get paid... ever

but I also know that the sun will shine tomorrow and I will be with good friends and unlimited cold beer and will feel ready to start again on Sunday morning provided Sunderland don't let me down on Saturday :D

Welcome to my world , we struggle to get paid and these chimps here are apparently the richest nation on earth..?

You'll definitely feel bad Sunday morning if we get turned over by the Baggies , the writings on the wall for Mrs Doubtfire..!!!!

weasel decentral Sep 29th 2011 11:26 am

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by lullabelle (Post 9647462)
Ha! Floundering suggests I am waving my arms about in distress when the reality is that I am making a very definitive hand gesture which would put me in the Bur Dubai Hilton for a few weeks. I'm not in despair, I'm livid.

The ****ing over was done by westerners, mostly Brits. Who would all have copyright cases slapped on them if I was at home. I've yet to be ****ed over by unfamiliar locals and their unfamiliar ways. I must try it sometime.

Floundering maybe a bad word here :unsure: anyhow the point was the unfamiliar local working practices regardless of nationality and legality rather than the person who actually carried out the backstabbing.
Anyhow its something I have experienced that's why I made the comment about being angry with yourself, because its something we all have gone through.
Case in point, after meeting clients in my business and the post mortem that happens afterwards, there is a huge difference in opinion of how the meeting went (regardless of what the client actually said) and the chance of doing business with them. The shorter the period you have spent here the more likely you are to accept what they said at face value, the more experienced guys are much more aware of the realistic outcome.

anyhow getting side tracked here I hope things change for you (for the better of course) :thumbup:

Sandboy Sep 30th 2011 4:51 am

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by weasel decentral (Post 9647847)
Case in point, after meeting clients in my business and the post mortem that happens afterwards, there is a huge difference in opinion of how the meeting went (regardless of what the client actually said) and the chance of doing business with them. The shorter the period you have spent here the more likely you are to accept what they said at face value, the more experienced guys are much more aware of the realistic outcome.

anyhow getting side tracked here I hope things change for you (for the better of course) :thumbup:


very true, my new boss arrived from Canada, first meeting was with Masdar, he was excited I told him he was wasting his time, he told me I was a cynical prick. His 2nd meeting was with the people developing Jumeriah Village ( think that was it's name, where they would flatten Satwa and Safa and build a new city ) he got the hump because I asked them the chances of it going ahead and us getting paid.

He's now back in Canada and I'm even more of a cynical prick

Spugsy Sep 30th 2011 9:51 am

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by Sandboy (Post 9649392)
very true, my new boss arrived from Canada, first meeting was with Masdar, he was excited I told him he was wasting his time, he told me I was a cynical prick. His 2nd meeting was with the people developing Jumeriah Village ( think that was it's name, where they would flatten Satwa and Safa and build a new city ) he got the hump because I asked them the chances of it going ahead and us getting paid.

He's now back in Canada and I'm even more of a cynical prick

Aye always the same story. you have to just rise above it and not let it get you down, which it can. and as you say, lots of sun and beers and sunderland letting you down, it's not a bad life eh?

Sandboy Sep 30th 2011 12:12 pm

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by Spugsy (Post 9649657)
Aye always the same story. you have to just rise above it and not let it get you down, which it can. and as you say, lots of sun and beers and sunderland letting you down, it's not a bad life eh?


:D not at all - just venturing out now to hose the redbacks away and dust down the BBQ ready for the neeet, loading the soundtrack before I head out with a cold one

NorthernLad Sep 30th 2011 4:10 pm

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by Spugsy (Post 9649657)
Aye always the same story. you have to just rise above it and not let it get you down, which it can. and as you say, lots of sun and beers and sunderland letting you down, it's not a bad life eh?

We've just gone through the '****** detesting this place' cycle. Being in Singapore/Thailand in the summer kicked this one off.

Bbq and cold beers on balcony watching sun go down fixed it...as well as chatting to friends back in the UK on Skype.

We're back to appreciating it here. Until we see Fenwicks windows at Christmas, that's going to be a tough one to deal with.

OleJanx Sep 30th 2011 5:46 pm

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 9650154)
We've just gone through the '****** detesting this place' cycle. Being in Singapore/Thailand in the summer kicked this one off.

Bbq and cold beers on balcony watching sun go down fixed it...as well as chatting to friends back in the UK on Skype.

We're back to appreciating it here. Until we see Fenwicks windows at Christmas, that's going to be a tough one to deal with.

Just remember, if you come back late November/early December, It's bloody cold, windy and dark!

The joys of Christmas? One of the better Expat delusions....

norsk Sep 30th 2011 7:25 pm

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by OleJanx (Post 9650276)
Just remember, if you come back late November/early December, It's bloody cold, windy and dark!

The joys of Christmas? One of the better Expat delusions....

I'm flying back to the UK in late November. Only consolation is I'm only staying for 1 day before hopping on a plane to Jamaica for 10 days all inclusive relaxation. On the way back we also stop in UK for 1 day before coming back to reasonable temperatures in Dubai.

Christmas is mostly overrated. Especially in Europe. As a kid I associated Christmas with arguing, everyone being stressed, people pretending to be happy and the disappointment of opening the shitty presents I used to get. Even though this means I am a bit of a 'bah humbug' man I must admit that Christmas has become a better experience for me after having kids...

Spugsy Sep 30th 2011 7:34 pm

Re: Homesickness
 

Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 9650154)
We've just gone through the '****** detesting this place' cycle. Being in Singapore/Thailand in the summer kicked this one off.

Bbq and cold beers on balcony watching sun go down fixed it...as well as chatting to friends back in the UK on Skype.

We're back to appreciating it here. Until we see Fenwicks windows at Christmas, that's going to be a tough one to deal with.

Yeah it's hard, when home I think it's amazing, but after a week of shit weather and lots of people out of work I look forward to coming back to the sun and a good job and decent money - and try and forget about the idiot drivers and stupid laws.


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