Goodbye to Saudi
#17
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Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Going to KSA you need :-
A guarantee of an Iqama
Decent Housing
Education Allowance
Medical Cover to get treatment in one of the better hospitals
If these are not on offer then go elsewhere. In my 17 years in Saudi I was HORRIFIED to see the conditions that some teachers would accept.
A guarantee of an Iqama
Decent Housing
Education Allowance
Medical Cover to get treatment in one of the better hospitals
If these are not on offer then go elsewhere. In my 17 years in Saudi I was HORRIFIED to see the conditions that some teachers would accept.
#18
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Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 182
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Advantage of the business visa: You can NOT get fired! At leas, not until you get iqama. If you have some employment contract - this contract will come into force only after you get iqama.
If the company fires you - you have the possibility to sue the company. You may chose who to sue: head office (outside the KSA) and/or the subsidary (in the KSA) because they have brought you to KSA without proper visa exposing you to various problems.
If the company fires you - you have the possibility to sue the company. You may chose who to sue: head office (outside the KSA) and/or the subsidary (in the KSA) because they have brought you to KSA without proper visa exposing you to various problems.
#19
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Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Do not go on a business visa if you are, in fact, working. You will be shafted.
#20
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Posts: 182
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Scott, it is just the opposite!
a) You get the contract with the company which will specify "coming into force" once you get iqama.
b) They send you to KSA on business visa..
What better can happen to you?
They can not fire before you get iqama - because they will not dare to say that you were employed at all. If they try to do it, you can sue them and easily win the trial. How can one company say "we terminate your employment" if they can not employ you at all?
Problems appear as soon as you get iqama: you can be fired the very next day.
a) You get the contract with the company which will specify "coming into force" once you get iqama.
b) They send you to KSA on business visa..
What better can happen to you?
They can not fire before you get iqama - because they will not dare to say that you were employed at all. If they try to do it, you can sue them and easily win the trial. How can one company say "we terminate your employment" if they can not employ you at all?
Problems appear as soon as you get iqama: you can be fired the very next day.
#21
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Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Jeddah, KSA
Posts: 822
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Scott, it is just the opposite!
a) You get the contract with the company which will specify "coming into force" once you get iqama.
b) They send you to KSA on business visa..
What better can happen to you?
They can not fire before you get iqama - because they will not dare to say that you were employed at all. If they try to do it, you can sue them and easily win the trial. How can one company say "we terminate your employment" if they can not employ you at all?
Problems appear as soon as you get iqama: you can be fired the very next day.
a) You get the contract with the company which will specify "coming into force" once you get iqama.
b) They send you to KSA on business visa..
What better can happen to you?
They can not fire before you get iqama - because they will not dare to say that you were employed at all. If they try to do it, you can sue them and easily win the trial. How can one company say "we terminate your employment" if they can not employ you at all?
Problems appear as soon as you get iqama: you can be fired the very next day.
#23
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
They can stop paying you a salary. How you can ask for it you are not employed?
#24
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Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Jeddah, KSA
Posts: 822
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Basically, you have a lot more protection having IQAMA, contract and being past probation then staying on business visit visa. In fact on business visit visa the only protection you have is the reputation and trust in your employer. I did it, because I have known the company and MD for years. Otherwise no chance I would come on business visit visa (unless I was without work with nothing to lose).
#25
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Joined: Feb 2013
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Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Reading the comments here is really putting me off the idea of taking up an offer in Riyadh. It's a substantial offer, including covering accommodation. healthcare, flights, company car etc. But reading what everyone is saying about the visa situation and the risk of being let go does not inspire any confidence.
Are there any positives to coming to work in Riyadh. My wife will remain at home and not move out with me.
Are there any positives to coming to work in Riyadh. My wife will remain at home and not move out with me.
#27
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Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Jeddah, KSA
Posts: 822
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Reading the comments here is really putting me off the idea of taking up an offer in Riyadh. It's a substantial offer, including covering accommodation. healthcare, flights, company car etc. But reading what everyone is saying about the visa situation and the risk of being let go does not inspire any confidence.
Are there any positives to coming to work in Riyadh. My wife will remain at home and not move out with me.
Are there any positives to coming to work in Riyadh. My wife will remain at home and not move out with me.
#29
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Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 605
Re: Goodbye to Saudi
Companies with less than 20 or 30 staff have absolutely no chance.
The moral is if you are offered a job in KSA working for a western based company with only a few staff in KSA then don't expect them to be able to get a visa that matches your nationality and profession.