CasaNova

ok folks,

One thing is for sure that Emiratisation is still far a dream, this is due to several reasons if you wanna say that people of UAE are useless and lazy then please keep your posts to yourself!

Emiratisation is seen as a danger and a good thing but several factors that arew hindering the efforts of emiratisation, one is the Nationals themselves, second is the expats that are afraid of losing their jobs, third is the dominace of the Levant arab mafias.



What good or bad do you guys see in Emiratisation?

shoushou

Theyre not useless but most of them are lazy....


Levant Arab Mafias.....(Im going all nostalgic now and thinking of my Lebanese compadres....)

Desert Dweller

Emiratisation is fine if it is based on the principle of quality not quantity. If quotas have to be filled then it becomes quantitatave and you end up with poorly qualified people taking positions which should be filled by qualified people regardless of colour, creed and religion.
Unfortunately it is a process of shooting oneself in the foot at the moment- similar to having an economy based on monopolies.

TA5

Half are useless, the other half are lazy.

Desert Dweller hit it on the head. If most Emirati's weren't useless, lazy, and in many cases, dumb, companies would want to employ them and there would be no need for the 'emiratisation' quotas.

CasaNova

Well to start off people are already complaining after gov. issued a ban of foreign PRO's from being hired. one thing i cannot understand how can a company get an Nepali and ask him to deal with the hardcore traditionalists at the DNRD! It should be logical for companies to hire NATIONALS than anybody else.

one time i witnessed the aussie counsular was accompanied by an indian to talk to the authorities at the DNRD and it served them right when the captian rejected them. and his representative couldnt even speak arabic! How is he gonna help the Consular? and consular how will he help the Aussies?


Currently there are over 25,000 UAE students training for pilots, defense airforce and Commercial, well the airforce should be UAE nationals anyway once the 70 F16's are delivered. but 70 - 25,000 then still 24,930 what should they do?

MJC

Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush!! The locals that I know in my organisation - and there's not many believe me - work as hard as the rest of us (which isn't saying much, but then I guess we're a sort of government dept.) CN's statement about the crass stupidity of some people is totally correct, it's all about treating people with respect, If I'm selling to Arabs, I take a local with me, there are so many traditions in this country that I'd much prefer the back up of a Local to anyone else. Especially one with loads of wasta!!

There are lazy elements in every society, let's not generalise TA5 and DD!

W10

The problem is complicated.

There are undoubtedly plenty of Emiratis working their arses off as CEOs, running their own businesses and even further down the chain. But steretypes are always loosely based in the truth and the truth is the majority of the national population don't want to work as hard.

But can you blame them? Largely they are a product of circumstance. They are in a country which has suddenly accquired oil wealth beyond anyone's dreams and the powers that be decided to share that wealth with the population. All that happened is that the government went a bit too far and needs to turn it round.

Emiratis are taught in the education system that they don't need to work and study because they will pass anyway. Fortunately it looks as if the education system is going to be overhauled soon.

Emiratis also can't be blamed for taking the more attractive option. Would you people turn down 30 hours a week for 50 grand a year with twice as much holiday? I seriously doubt it. So why should they? That's why the majority of employed Emiratis work in the public sector.

Years of being told they are the master race don't help either - especially recent comments by Al Tayer (I think) who said that nationals didn't need to work their way up as they were all born leaders and should start at the top.

However, his comment is becoming rarer in this day and age, and Shk Mo's initiative - coupled with the fact he admitted there is a lazy element in the population - are a big step in the right direction. No quotas, just saying we will train nationals who want success properly and make sure they are good enough to compete in the private sector. A breath of fresh air. It's not going to happen overnight, but with potential education reforms things will change.

The government now needs to bring the civil service more in line with the private sector to make it less of an easy option.

CasaNova

Sh. Muhammed also said: The nationals must acquire the skills and the talents required for the Private sector and then the Private sector will starting looking for Nationals.


Well that all sounds good and nice! and all happy go lucky! but this isn;t the reality.

Go to Jumbo electronics and the entire workforce of 3 thousands is from the same area of India and the same sect and the same religlion!

Now this is Racist! The UAE gov has to wake-up and so do the consumers and HALT all the transaction of such companies and give them a Quota for the nationality and so on! This should be looked after with a STICK!

shoushou

Will nationals work and make the same effort as the Indians if they work in Jumbo for the same pay or slightly more???

IndieG

I doubt it has anything to do with racism!. Jumbo (or for that matter anyone in the private sector), I am sure, will be more than happy to employ Nationals, Arabs, or anyone willing to work 12-14 hours a day, for about AED 1500-2000 a month.

Anya

TA5

You don't seem to understand, the quota's are the problem! If there is a quota, what drive is there for an emirati to work hard, knowing that the only reason he is employed is because he is part of a quota?

Autonomy

I have to agree - quotas are not the answer. The best person for the job should be the only criteria applicable.

If there is discrminiation involved then this is a different matter and this should be tackled seperately and if anything this is the major issue in the employment sector (covering every thing from selection of employee based on nationality or sex to pay discrepencies for the same job according to nationality or sex or even religion)

Desert Dweller

Will they work in shops, or clean streets or wait on tables as many of us probably did when we were paying our way through college or after we graduated when we realised that our dream of being a pilot and the subsequent state sponsored training didn't get us a job as a head pilot for our national airline?

Would it not make more sense for them to admit that it was manned by hardcore traditionalists and change it so that it wasn't such a drama to go and get a stamp in your passport? And to say that the Captain refused the application because he didn't speak Arabic is exactly the point- jobs for knobs. If speaking Arabic wasn't a prerequisite for the job, he wouldn't be in it- look at the second tier of workers in any govt dept, the ones behind the closed doors, and they're all Egyptian, Palestinian or Syrian.

MJC, I was not tarring with the same brush so I wont comment.

shoushou

You cant tar anyone with the same brush,not only locals...Not all Indians are the same,not all Pakistanis are the same,not all Americans,Arabs (of all countries) or Brits are the same...

As for the locals,in one company,you will easily see many kinds of levels of dedication.Take Etisalat for example,their customer service in some branches are impeccable,while in other branches they take you to hell and back.Even on the same floor,you will get someone who will run around the building with you,literally,and you will meet another one who doesnt even want to move his chair from left to right if I fire breaks out,let alone help you, because he is too busy chatting on the mobile and/or his coffee break is 20 minutes away....
I know companies who do employ locals and put up with all their excentricities and turn the blind eye for their lack of effort and absenteeism,simply for the fact that they dont want attention brought upon themselves by Tanmia or other related departments...

Desert Dweller

All true, I think the difference is the locals who have worked their way into a position and those that expect a position. I, too, worked with locals who were very good at their job as well as a great, great many of Brits, Lebanese, Indians etc who were lazy and incompetent.