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Tockalosh Jun 23rd 2018 6:44 am
Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Just wondering if anyone has experienced this lately and if anyone has any ideas on legal recourse
It's our last year in the Gulf, mortgage paid in UK etc so we decided to kick the backside out of our last years accommodation and rent something splendidly larger than what we have lived in. Rented through a well known agency, who I shall name and shame tomorrow to prevent others from falling foul, if they don't earn their fees. Paid the rent, paid the ejari, paid the DEWA, and then went to get the move in permit and emaar said NO as the community fees haven't been paid. So I am now renting a house I can't move into, and need to move out of the current place on Tuesday. The landlord, not a local, has gone on holiday to the US. The agent has gone on holiday
Has anyone been in this situation before or have any useful tips?

co durham boy Jun 23rd 2018 3:20 pm
Re: Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Originally Posted by Tockalosh (Post 12521322)
Just wondering if anyone has experienced this lately and if anyone has any ideas on legal recourse
It's our last year in the Gulf, mortgage paid in UK etc so we decided to kick the backside out of our last years accommodation and rent something splendidly larger than what we have lived in. Rented through a well known agency, who I shall name and shame tomorrow to prevent others from falling foul, if they don't earn their fees. Paid the rent, paid the ejari, paid the DEWA, and then went to get the move in permit and emaar said NO as the community fees haven't been paid. So I am now renting a house I can't move into, and need to move out of the current place on Tuesday. The landlord, not a local, has gone on holiday to the US. The agent has gone on holiday
Has anyone been in this situation before or have any useful tips?
There's new signs up on every security gate now about this so I'm sure there's a lot of it going on . Emarr do have an office on the Ranches at the top of Al Reem if that helps . The community fees can be paid online and it's pretty easy I think . It does sound like a lazy arsed agent and landlord scenario , I'd try the office and see if you can get any idea of how to move forward.

Tockalosh Jun 23rd 2018 3:39 pm
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Yes thanks, I visited the office on the ranches and just got the standard NO can’t do anything answer. I asked what the fees were as at a last resort I would have cleared and claimed back from the LL later but it appears we are not on about 1 years missed fees, it’s donkeys years and Emaar won’t even give me the value of fees owed. I struggle to believe that the large and famous or should that be infamous agencies don’t do any simple due diligence on the properties they market and ensure fees are paid before they market.

Tockalosh Jun 23rd 2018 3:43 pm
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I remember all this shit years ago with palm residents being denied access to the beach because landlords hadn’t paid fees. I assumed this was now finished and relegated to history.

reddiva Jun 23rd 2018 4:45 pm
Re: Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Originally Posted by Tockalosh (Post 12521416)
Yes thanks, I visited the office on the ranches and just got the standard NO can’t do anything answer. I asked what the fees were as at a last resort I would have cleared and claimed back from the LL later but it appears we are not on about 1 years missed fees, it’s donkeys years and Emaar won’t even give me the value of fees owed. I struggle to believe that the large and famous or should that be infamous agencies don’t do any simple due diligence on the properties they market and ensure fees are paid before they market.
The only thing i would suggest is to go to the rent committee in person and see if they can help
A few people got caught out with this in the Greens. Luckily i dealt with my LL in person and asked him to provide me with a copy of the fees ( which he did) This is a cr@@ situation to be in and i hope you sort it

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 23rd 2018 5:44 pm
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Worth trying to find an alternative and see if you can get the cheques back from agent?

I'd be on at the agent like a hound. Doesn't matter if John you're dealing with away because another John in the office should be able to deal with it. Not just ringing them but standing in their office asking how they're going to sort it out.

Tockalosh Jun 23rd 2018 5:55 pm
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That’s the plan for lunchtime Mr Scamp,

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 23rd 2018 6:05 pm
Re: Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Originally Posted by Tockalosh (Post 12521453)
That’s the plan for lunchtime Mr Scamp,
The only other things to do is to just do it regardless? Get the removals guys in and just start unloading?

I'd also be hammering the LL if you have his contact details as well. Don't care about timezones, sort your shit out you ****.

Tockalosh Jun 23rd 2018 6:08 pm
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The security won’t let the trucks in without a moving in permit Scamp. So not quite so easy as unloading unofficially

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 23rd 2018 6:19 pm
Re: Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Originally Posted by Tockalosh (Post 12521458)
The security won’t let the trucks in without a moving in permit Scamp. So not quite so easy as unloading unofficially
You lot and your posh gated communities.

Beat up the agent then. Turn some desks over and see what happens.

I'd definitely hammer the LL too though, why not.

jam25mack Jun 23rd 2018 8:29 pm
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Dirty protest!

reddiva Jun 23rd 2018 8:33 pm
Re: Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12521464)
You lot and your posh gated communities.

Beat up the agent then. Turn some desks over and see what happens.

I'd definitely hammer the LL too though, why not.
It is the same in the Greens. The only time we see security is when they want to see your moving in permits

reddiva Jun 23rd 2018 8:41 pm
Re: Emaar refusing moving permit on AR
 
Originally Posted by Tockalosh (Post 12521453)
That’s the plan for lunchtime Mr Scamp,

If you do not get anywhere with the agent start bandying that you will call the police. This may gee them up a bit
I was looking back at similar posts on another UAE and a woman was in the same situation as you are
She went to the agent and threatened them with the Police which worked and the fees were taken out of the cheques

Sabi Star Jun 23rd 2018 9:07 pm
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Does not sound like the kind of LL one would want anyway.

Tockalosh Jun 23rd 2018 9:23 pm
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Well looks like a happy ending.
Thanks to the very helpful lady at Emaar who offered a reduced payment plan for the LL and the LL is paying it now inshallah. I
cant praise Emaar at their main office enough over this, super helpful and empathetic. Perhaps less helpful at the ranches office but guess their hands are tied.

i suppose the lesson to anyone renting within the AR is to demand written evidence that the community charges on your next property have been paid before you sign any cheques and a contract and don’t rely upon the agents.

this has been a hideous experience though thankfully our last possible exposure as in 12 months it’s all over and out of here inshallah


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