dubai for migrant workers
Jul 14th 2008, 5:58 am
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dubai for migrant workers
I was wanting a favour of some dubai knowledge….
i know dubai is maybe a great place if you are on a great salary and can enjoy it. but i am sure there is an other side to life there for all the migrant workers which is glossed over and difficult to find information about.
a vietnamese girl I was know is thinking of taking a job in Dubai Duty Free over there, just working in the shops in the airport I think with accomodation provided.
the company have asked for 2000usd up front to cover some costs. they also described tax being deducted but i thought working there was tax free?
her salary after deductions and accommodation taken off is 650usd. is that enough to survive on when accounting for food and living?
i doubt she will be going to the buffet brunches! so maybe 650 is ok.
I’d just read a few stories about poor working and living conditions but that’s maybe for construction labourers.
To be honest I’m a bit worried about her going out there as I don’t have a clue what its like.
she will get paid far better than she would here. I assume you can enjoy it there if you have plenty of money. but probably living costs will be high and she is used to the cheap food etc of vietnam!
the company is Dubai Duty Free so I think its genuine.
Is there much crime and is it a safe place for her and women to live do you think?
all your information is fantastic, please reply. she will make the decision to go in the next few days
i know dubai is maybe a great place if you are on a great salary and can enjoy it. but i am sure there is an other side to life there for all the migrant workers which is glossed over and difficult to find information about.
a vietnamese girl I was know is thinking of taking a job in Dubai Duty Free over there, just working in the shops in the airport I think with accomodation provided.
the company have asked for 2000usd up front to cover some costs. they also described tax being deducted but i thought working there was tax free?
her salary after deductions and accommodation taken off is 650usd. is that enough to survive on when accounting for food and living?
i doubt she will be going to the buffet brunches! so maybe 650 is ok.
I’d just read a few stories about poor working and living conditions but that’s maybe for construction labourers.
To be honest I’m a bit worried about her going out there as I don’t have a clue what its like.
she will get paid far better than she would here. I assume you can enjoy it there if you have plenty of money. but probably living costs will be high and she is used to the cheap food etc of vietnam!
the company is Dubai Duty Free so I think its genuine.
Is there much crime and is it a safe place for her and women to live do you think?
all your information is fantastic, please reply. she will make the decision to go in the next few days
Jul 14th 2008, 6:26 am
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Re: dubai for migrant workers
I was wanting a favour of some dubai knowledge….
i know dubai is maybe a great place if you are on a great salary and can enjoy it. but i am sure there is an other side to life there for all the migrant workers which is glossed over and difficult to find information about.
a vietnamese girl I was know is thinking of taking a job in Dubai Duty Free over there, just working in the shops in the airport I think with accomodation provided.
the company have asked for 2000usd up front to cover some costs. they also described tax being deducted but i thought working there was tax free?
her salary after deductions and accommodation taken off is 650usd. is that enough to survive on when accounting for food and living?
i doubt she will be going to the buffet brunches! so maybe 650 is ok.
I’d just read a few stories about poor working and living conditions but that’s maybe for construction labourers.
To be honest I’m a bit worried about her going out there as I don’t have a clue what its like.
she will get paid far better than she would here. I assume you can enjoy it there if you have plenty of money. but probably living costs will be high and she is used to the cheap food etc of vietnam!
the company is Dubai Duty Free so I think its genuine.
Is there much crime and is it a safe place for her and women to live do you think?
all your information is fantastic, please reply. she will make the decision to go in the next few days
i know dubai is maybe a great place if you are on a great salary and can enjoy it. but i am sure there is an other side to life there for all the migrant workers which is glossed over and difficult to find information about.
a vietnamese girl I was know is thinking of taking a job in Dubai Duty Free over there, just working in the shops in the airport I think with accomodation provided.
the company have asked for 2000usd up front to cover some costs. they also described tax being deducted but i thought working there was tax free?
her salary after deductions and accommodation taken off is 650usd. is that enough to survive on when accounting for food and living?
i doubt she will be going to the buffet brunches! so maybe 650 is ok.
I’d just read a few stories about poor working and living conditions but that’s maybe for construction labourers.
To be honest I’m a bit worried about her going out there as I don’t have a clue what its like.
she will get paid far better than she would here. I assume you can enjoy it there if you have plenty of money. but probably living costs will be high and she is used to the cheap food etc of vietnam!
the company is Dubai Duty Free so I think its genuine.
Is there much crime and is it a safe place for her and women to live do you think?
all your information is fantastic, please reply. she will make the decision to go in the next few days
Jul 14th 2008, 6:34 am
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well they say it is for flights and visa etc. but the flights will be 1000usd max.
i was a bit sceptical.
what about the job and do you believe they would be looked after well?
i actually think the jobs genuine and was advertised in the papers here.
i'm just worried about her safety as she is a pretty vietnamese girl working there with maybe not much support or help and doesn't know anyone.
thanks for your reply.
i was a bit sceptical.
what about the job and do you believe they would be looked after well?
i actually think the jobs genuine and was advertised in the papers here.
i'm just worried about her safety as she is a pretty vietnamese girl working there with maybe not much support or help and doesn't know anyone.
thanks for your reply.
Jul 14th 2008, 6:43 am
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Fee's may be for visa but no where near that much and normally is a part of the recruitment cost and yes it should be tax free earning. Deductions may be for housing, maybe food and transport but tax should not be a part of it.
To be honest it all sounds a bit vague, now whether that is the info that is being supplied to her, her to you or you to us is another question but I think there are a more points that need to be clarified if I were her.
Cost of living, there are numerous threads and it really is dependent on who you are and what you want to do.
Sorry to be so vague but your friends may want to understand all the T&C’s of her employment before she starts looking at cost of living….
Good luck though….
To be honest it all sounds a bit vague, now whether that is the info that is being supplied to her, her to you or you to us is another question but I think there are a more points that need to be clarified if I were her.
Cost of living, there are numerous threads and it really is dependent on who you are and what you want to do.
Sorry to be so vague but your friends may want to understand all the T&C’s of her employment before she starts looking at cost of living….
Good luck though….
Jul 14th 2008, 8:44 am
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Is she dealing direct through Dubai Duty Free? Or is the 'company' you refer to some middle man agent? I suspect it is an agent given the conditions you mention. In which case proceed very carefully.
It is safe enough for women here - she will be living with lots of her co-workers. Even so, just take the normal big city precautions, that's all.
Working at the airport shops is a pleasant environment compared to many jobs here.
There is a two speed economy in Dubai - yes, there are expensive hotels, brunches, supermarkets etc. But you can also tap in to much lower priced equivalents. People do come here and make a go of it, otherwise they would leave. (Although the balance may be tipping given the way things are going.)
Ask the company if you can speak (privately) with someone (vietnamese?) already out here doing the same job.
It is safe enough for women here - she will be living with lots of her co-workers. Even so, just take the normal big city precautions, that's all.
Working at the airport shops is a pleasant environment compared to many jobs here.
There is a two speed economy in Dubai - yes, there are expensive hotels, brunches, supermarkets etc. But you can also tap in to much lower priced equivalents. People do come here and make a go of it, otherwise they would leave. (Although the balance may be tipping given the way things are going.)
Ask the company if you can speak (privately) with someone (vietnamese?) already out here doing the same job.
Jul 14th 2008, 9:04 am
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there was a first screening interview by vietnamese then an interview by some british folk for Dubai Duty Free.
I think its genuine its just the breakdown of costs, but its quite difficult to argue with that if she still thinks its a good chance.
she has spoken to vnese who have done similair work abroad in taiwan and korea and they seemed positive.
thanks for the advice, maybe i'll speak to the company myself to check before she commits.
its a 2year contract so i just hope she isn't unhappy living there if her salary is so little to get by on.
cheers.
I think its genuine its just the breakdown of costs, but its quite difficult to argue with that if she still thinks its a good chance.
she has spoken to vnese who have done similair work abroad in taiwan and korea and they seemed positive.
thanks for the advice, maybe i'll speak to the company myself to check before she commits.
its a 2year contract so i just hope she isn't unhappy living there if her salary is so little to get by on.
cheers.
Jul 14th 2008, 11:23 am
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Re: dubai for migrant workers
there was a first screening interview by vietnamese then an interview by some british folk for Dubai Duty Free.
I think its genuine its just the breakdown of costs, but its quite difficult to argue with that if she still thinks its a good chance.
she has spoken to vnese who have done similair work abroad in taiwan and korea and they seemed positive.
thanks for the advice, maybe i'll speak to the company myself to check before she commits.
its a 2year contract so i just hope she isn't unhappy living there if her salary is so little to get by on.
cheers.
I think its genuine its just the breakdown of costs, but its quite difficult to argue with that if she still thinks its a good chance.
she has spoken to vnese who have done similair work abroad in taiwan and korea and they seemed positive.
thanks for the advice, maybe i'll speak to the company myself to check before she commits.
its a 2year contract so i just hope she isn't unhappy living there if her salary is so little to get by on.
cheers.
was the interview from the DDF people in person?
Jul 14th 2008, 11:37 am
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You don't have to worry, my friend. Just tell her to ask for Lionheart at the Irish Village near the airport and I will look after her for you
On a more serious note, if she is already working in the USA or the UK, why on earth would she want to come here?
On a more serious note, if she is already working in the USA or the UK, why on earth would she want to come here?
Jul 14th 2008, 11:49 am
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no. working in vietnam. she is vietnamese
i think she was interviewed directly by DDF.
after reading online a few stories i feel like advising her not to go.
i think she was interviewed directly by DDF.
after reading online a few stories i feel like advising her not to go.
Jul 14th 2008, 12:23 pm
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Maybe I'm wrong but I did not thinkcompanies were allowed to charge employees for Visa costs.
Sounds dodgy and on the salary she will get it will take a fair time to earn back that amount
Sounds dodgy and on the salary she will get it will take a fair time to earn back that amount
Jul 14th 2008, 1:41 pm
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Jul 14th 2008, 4:16 pm
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Employees should not pay any viisa costs at all, she must be going through an agency who are charging these costs
Jul 14th 2008, 6:12 pm
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Don't be so naive, people.
This is the reality for hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Asian workers in the Middle East. You pay an agent to find you a job - he takes about 3 months salary for flights, visas, fees etc. Then, once they're lucky enough to get the job, they're housed in dormitories or 'staff accommodation', passport collected, and frequently not paid on time etc.
It may shock some of you to see of salaries of 650USD a month - what did you think the Filipina girl on the shop counter was making?
This is the reality for hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Asian workers in the Middle East. You pay an agent to find you a job - he takes about 3 months salary for flights, visas, fees etc. Then, once they're lucky enough to get the job, they're housed in dormitories or 'staff accommodation', passport collected, and frequently not paid on time etc.
It may shock some of you to see of salaries of 650USD a month - what did you think the Filipina girl on the shop counter was making?
Jul 15th 2008, 2:09 am
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to be honest it is probably the vietnamese governement charging these costs, or the company they use as the agent.
it is an agreement between the countries.
she said they were deducting 700usd for housing, which would be two people sharing the same room.
http://www.sovilaco.com/vi/News/86.aspx
obviously the VN government will not look after there overseas workers like other westernised countries.
i read quite a few shocking stories about the passport being confiscated when they arrived.
i believe the job is probably legit, but its just that doubt in my mind if it wasnt. with horrific consequences.
it is an agreement between the countries.
she said they were deducting 700usd for housing, which would be two people sharing the same room.
http://www.sovilaco.com/vi/News/86.aspx
obviously the VN government will not look after there overseas workers like other westernised countries.
i read quite a few shocking stories about the passport being confiscated when they arrived.
i believe the job is probably legit, but its just that doubt in my mind if it wasnt. with horrific consequences.