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coffindodger Jul 27th 2010 8:19 am

Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
People diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes should not fast during Ramadan as they are in a high risk category and could end up doing harm to themselves, the chief executive officer of Dubai Hospital has warned.

"Ramadan is a special month for Muslims and everyone wishes to join in its spiritual enjoyment," Dr Abdul Razzaq Al Madani said.

However, the sugar levels of this particular group of diabetics could fluctuate dangerously during the fast, he added.

Type 1 diabetics depend on injections of insulin to lead a normal life. During the Ramadan fast Muslims go without food and drink during the daylight hours, and taking medicine in public is also not allowed.

Dr Al Madani said even people with Type 2 diabetes need to be extra careful if they plan to fast.

He added that people with cardiac problems in particular should regularly check their sugar levels.

People with Type 2 diabetes can control their illness by adhering to a proper diet and taking medication

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/he...madan-1.659385

NedKelly63 Jul 27th 2010 4:24 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by coffindodger (Post 8731092)
People diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes should not fast during Ramadan as they are in a high risk category and could end up doing harm to themselves, the chief executive officer of Dubai Hospital has warned.

"Ramadan is a special month for Muslims and everyone wishes to join in its spiritual enjoyment," Dr Abdul Razzaq Al Madani said.

However, the sugar levels of this particular group of diabetics could fluctuate dangerously during the fast, he added.

Type 1 diabetics depend on injections of insulin to lead a normal life. During the Ramadan fast Muslims go without food and drink during the daylight hours, and taking medicine in public is also not allowed.

Dr Al Madani said even people with Type 2 diabetes need to be extra careful if they plan to fast.

He added that people with cardiac problems in particular should regularly check their sugar levels.

People with Type 2 diabetes can control their illness by adhering to a proper diet and taking medication

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/he...madan-1.659385

Brilliant / That's really bad / What?

The Dean Jul 27th 2010 6:31 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by coffindodger (Post 8731092)
People diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes should not fast during Ramadan as they are in a high risk category and could end up doing harm to themselves, the chief executive officer of Dubai Hospital has warned.

"Ramadan is a special month for Muslims and everyone wishes to join in its spiritual enjoyment," Dr Abdul Razzaq Al Madani said.

However, the sugar levels of this particular group of diabetics could fluctuate dangerously during the fast, he added.

Type 1 diabetics depend on injections of insulin to lead a normal life. During the Ramadan fast Muslims go without food and drink during the daylight hours, and taking medicine in public is also not allowed.

Dr Al Madani said even people with Type 2 diabetes need to be extra careful if they plan to fast.

He added that people with cardiac problems in particular should regularly check their sugar levels.

People with Type 2 diabetes can control their illness by adhering to a proper diet and taking medication

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/he...madan-1.659385

Ramadan causes diabetes. Fact.

They eat nothing for about 16 hours (if it's a summer Ramadan), then break the fast with bad stuff (sweetened tea, chocolates, fatty carbs, etc).

Not a blood sugar/insulin expert but it can't be coincidence that nearly 30% of adult Saudis are diabetic; there's no comparable statistic anywhere apart from this region.

Patsy Stoned Jul 27th 2010 7:21 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
The UAE has the 2nd highest rate of diabetes in the world.
Having trained locals, I have seen how they increase their weight during Ramadan. Too much sugar and too many unhealthy carbs.
Mostly a sedenary lifestyle and the introduction of junk food into a society that used to live on a natural, healthy diet

Patsy Stoned Jul 27th 2010 7:37 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 8732561)
Ramadan causes diabetes. Fact.

They eat nothing for about 16 hours (if it's a summer Ramadan), then break the fast with bad stuff (sweetened tea, chocolates, fatty carbs, etc).

Not a blood sugar/insulin expert but it can't be coincidence that nearly 30% of adult Saudis are diabetic; there's no comparable statistic anywhere apart from this region.

Actually darling, Ramadan does not cause Diabetes..you can't "catch" it in a month!!
and the comparable statistics are that atleast 20% of the population of the UAE have diabetes. However the study included Emiratis and expats but it does make interesting reading

http://www.cags.org.ae/cbc07db.pdf

The Dean Jul 27th 2010 8:40 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by Patsy Stoned (Post 8732726)
Actually darling, Ramadan does not cause Diabetes..you can't "catch" it in a month!!
and the comparable statistics are that atleast 20% of the population of the UAE have diabetes. However the study included Emiratis and expats but it does make interesting reading

http://www.cags.org.ae/cbc07db.pdf

Nonsense - my brother 'caught' it virtually overnight.

In fact you don't 'catch' it at all, of course - your body simply starts to do things differently. The fasting, followed by sugary food, changes completely hows the body does what it does................

prwatts Jul 27th 2010 8:52 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
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Norm_uk Jul 28th 2010 5:04 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 8732878)
Nonsense - my brother 'caught' it virtually overnight.

In fact you don't 'catch' it at all, of course - your body simply starts to do things differently. The fasting, followed by sugary food, changes completely hows the body does what it does................

Indeed. Not eating or drinking anything during daylight hours is not exactly a fast anyway - just skipping meals. Then packing in massive amounts of sugars and carbs at night is bound to cause problems. The UAE population is not exactly a picture of health anyway - doing less exercise than most and generally eating fatty, unhealthy foods and not sticking to healthy sleeping patterns from a young age.

Most of the GCC locals I know here put on weight during ramadan...

A real fast would involve drinking lots of water and green or herbal teas and not eating anything at all for days at a time - and a light diet of fruit and veg should be stuck to before and after the fast. It can actually be quite healthy if done correctly - I've done it myself a number of times and it literally does "clean you out". Ramadan as a medically beneficial fast is a joke.

What I really don't understand is why in Turkey or Egypt one can continue life as normal during Ramadan for the most part but in the GCC they feel if they are fasting everyone has to fast and be seen doing it under pain of fines and imprisonment.

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Groovychick Jul 28th 2010 7:19 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 8732561)
Ramadan causes diabetes. Fact.

They eat nothing for about 16 hours (if it's a summer Ramadan), then break the fast with bad stuff (sweetened tea, chocolates, fatty carbs, etc).

Not a blood sugar/insulin expert but it can't be coincidence that nearly 30% of adult Saudis are diabetic; there's no comparable statistic anywhere apart from this region.

What a ****** twit!

The Dean Jul 28th 2010 9:32 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 

Originally Posted by Groovychick (Post 8733905)
What a ****** twit!

Sorry, there seems to be a problem with your keyboard - the rest of your post (the part in which you intelligently and persuasively argue a contrary position, thus convincing me and others of a more plausible scenario) appears to have unaccountably been deleted.............

kittycat1 Jul 28th 2010 10:40 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
What I'm looking forwards to is eating in the toilets- the approved place for non muslims to eat their lunch- nice! we only have two or three in the office who will leave at lunchtime yet we still have to eat in the bogs? I wonder if I can smoke in there to?

Luckily I'm onlyhere for a week of Ramadam- thank allah! otherwise I'd be fed up of bog salad!

Ethos83 Jul 28th 2010 10:48 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
It's that bad? My office is fairly liberal and people eat/drink anytime and anywhere they want in the office. the Muslims we have on staff are generally from Egypt, Lebanon or Turkey so they couldn't care less.



Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 8734320)
What I'm looking forwards to is eating in the toilets- the approved place for non muslims to eat their lunch- nice! we only have two or three in the office who will leave at lunchtime yet we still have to eat in the bogs? I wonder if I can smoke in there to?

Luckily I'm onlyhere for a week of Ramadam- thank allah! otherwise I'd be fed up of bog salad!


Groovychick Jul 28th 2010 11:01 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
Aww poor kitty! Hun, I feel for you! Sheesh :eek:

Millhouse Jul 28th 2010 11:26 am

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
We used to be allowed to eat in specific meeting rooms and drink at our desks. That was before the revolution - I suspect this year it'll be sandwiches in the shitters.

Still, 9-3... I'm sure I can hold off and just leave early.

smart boy Jul 28th 2010 3:14 pm

Re: Diabetes and Fasting during Ramadan
 
The patient is recognized if patients can not fast, there is nothing wrong to break the fast ... Islam is a religion of tolerance and is pleased.


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