Which Car Question
#16
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What I'm about to say is just my own perspective on the design aesthetics of American cars. They're for fat people. Too big. The interiors are too soft and plush and filled with cheap plastic and cup holders for the American's favourite Big Gulp. I'm sure you can point out the exception but that's what I think of when I see American cars. Fat people waddling and driving 25m when they could walk instead. I guess that's my bias and it's no worse than you thinking of wankers when you see a Prado or Pajero
I am not very up on 4x4/SUV's but if you are looking for a good, decent sports car, then I know my stuff
#17
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Perhaps your experience was the exception? I don't doubt there are decently made American cars just as there are poorly made Asian cars, but I base the statement on not just my own experience but what many people have shared with me over the years. And there's a pretty broad consensus on one thing, especially if you're a UAE car owner:
Want reliable and inexpensive to operate and maintain with good resale? Buy Asian. More specifically, buy Japanese. They have fantastic reliability and maintenance reputations and that doesn't come from nothing.
You're likely correct that American cars have greatly improved in the last decade and are now comparable to a number of Japanese cars in terms of reliability, out here in the UAE the downside is that the cost of maintenance and servicing tends to be quite high, which makes them a headache if you just want a reliable car to get from point A to point B.
What I'm about to say is just my own perspective on the design aesthetics of American cars. They're for fat people. Too big. The interiors are too soft and plush and filled with cheap plastic and cup holders for the American's favourite Big Gulp. I'm sure you can point out the exception but that's what I think of when I see American cars. Fat people waddling and driving 25m when they could walk instead. I guess that's my bias and it's no worse than you thinking of wankers when you see a Prado or Pajero
Want reliable and inexpensive to operate and maintain with good resale? Buy Asian. More specifically, buy Japanese. They have fantastic reliability and maintenance reputations and that doesn't come from nothing.
You're likely correct that American cars have greatly improved in the last decade and are now comparable to a number of Japanese cars in terms of reliability, out here in the UAE the downside is that the cost of maintenance and servicing tends to be quite high, which makes them a headache if you just want a reliable car to get from point A to point B.
What I'm about to say is just my own perspective on the design aesthetics of American cars. They're for fat people. Too big. The interiors are too soft and plush and filled with cheap plastic and cup holders for the American's favourite Big Gulp. I'm sure you can point out the exception but that's what I think of when I see American cars. Fat people waddling and driving 25m when they could walk instead. I guess that's my bias and it's no worse than you thinking of wankers when you see a Prado or Pajero
Let's face it, the 'higher end' Jap stuff is rebadged basic with a few more frills.
I have park sensors, reversing camera, leather everywhere, rear DVD, remote start etc all with an engine that will get you out of trouble on a Yank truck that, to get Jap, would cost me twice as much.
If it was my missus, or my kids, I'm Durango all the way..
And, yes, the cup holders are big, but I don't hold that against them...
#18
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I couldn't agree more - I can't stand American cars (just like I can't stand Americans).....American cars are just blah, like seriously blah.....for me personally I much prefer German cars.
I am not very up on 4x4/SUV's but if you are looking for a good, decent sports car, then I know my stuff
I am not very up on 4x4/SUV's but if you are looking for a good, decent sports car, then I know my stuff
#19
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Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.
Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking
Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.
for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren
to name but a few
Last edited by mission; Apr 5th 2016 at 12:53 pm.
#20
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I saw the RS3 the other day. I'm sorely tempted.
any of the M series - (beemer) - other than the M 1 series- that's like having the poor man's version of the Porsche ie the boxster - IF I ever made some serious moola, I'd get the M6.
Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.
Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking
Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.
for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren
to name but a few
Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.
Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking
Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.
for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren
to name but a few
#21
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You call Jap cars boring and you defend American cars? They're equally boring in my mind. Fortuner or Prado versus the Durango or Explorer? What's the diff in terms of aesthetics? What makes one more interesting than the other?
Then you have all these gawdawful American sedans. You think the Camry is boring next to the Taurus?
Even the trucks aren't exciting to me. Big and obnoxious. Americans have the F-whatever on the road, the Japs have the Land Cruisers. Same same.
Then you have all these gawdawful American sedans. You think the Camry is boring next to the Taurus?
Even the trucks aren't exciting to me. Big and obnoxious. Americans have the F-whatever on the road, the Japs have the Land Cruisers. Same same.
#22
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any of the M series - (beemer) - other than the M 1 series- that's like having the poor man's version of the Porsche ie the boxster - IF I ever made some serious moola, I'd get the M6.
Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.
Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking
Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.
for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren
to name but a few
Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.
Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking
Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.
for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren
to name but a few
If you wanted a 4 dr sports car, which would you go for...
TBH, mission, that is probably the most unimaginative list of 'decent sports cars' I have seen, and VERY Euro-centric...
No LFA, Orochi (sp?).. Or we could go old-school.. I repo'd enough Evo's, 3000GT's, NSX's and GT-R's in my time...
Lets forget Asia...
SRT do anything for you, Shelby wet your whistle... Or are you a little hipster, Tesla maybe...
Each to their own, and if you limit your sights to the horizon set for you by AutoExpress or its ilk, then I'd probably have the same list as you...
But, next time, let the men talk cars...
Last edited by TGFKASE; Apr 5th 2016 at 3:24 pm.
#23
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You call Jap cars boring and you defend American cars? They're equally boring in my mind. Fortuner or Prado versus the Durango or Explorer? What's the diff in terms of aesthetics? What makes one more interesting than the other?
Then you have all these gawdawful American sedans. You think the Camry is boring next to the Taurus?
Even the trucks aren't exciting to me. Big and obnoxious. Americans have the F-whatever on the road, the Japs have the Land Cruisers. Same same.
Then you have all these gawdawful American sedans. You think the Camry is boring next to the Taurus?
Even the trucks aren't exciting to me. Big and obnoxious. Americans have the F-whatever on the road, the Japs have the Land Cruisers. Same same.
I never mentioned Yank sedans...
In fact, I never mentioned the F-word ever....
Run along. Im sure you will learn to love your PoS Prado again... Just click your heels 3 times and dream of your safe place...
Being a Prado driver, Im thinking your safe place is doing 80 in the fast lane on SZR, never indicating just to prove how strong you are....
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You mean as boring as the PoS Prado driver who cut me off at 145km the other day?
Nope. Sorry, mate. Drive a boring Nissan Tiida rental. 13th monthly rental contract now and still haven't bothered to look at new cars.
In past life I have owned an Audi, a Pajero, a Golf. Driven a Volvo and Honda as well.
Conclusion: all same same. Car to get from point A to point B. Anything else is merely self-justification. Makes you happy? Go for it. But don't make yourself a fool mocking perfectly reliable and sensible cars.
Nope. Sorry, mate. Drive a boring Nissan Tiida rental. 13th monthly rental contract now and still haven't bothered to look at new cars.
In past life I have owned an Audi, a Pajero, a Golf. Driven a Volvo and Honda as well.
Conclusion: all same same. Car to get from point A to point B. Anything else is merely self-justification. Makes you happy? Go for it. But don't make yourself a fool mocking perfectly reliable and sensible cars.
What is it about the current crop of Bored members, that feel the need to un-contextualize quotes to make a point...
I never mentioned Yank sedans...
In fact, I never mentioned the F-word ever....
Run along. Im sure you will learn to love your PoS Prado again... Just click your heels 3 times and dream of your safe place...
Being a Prado driver, Im thinking your safe place is doing 80 in the fast lane on SZR, never indicating just to prove how strong you are....
I never mentioned Yank sedans...
In fact, I never mentioned the F-word ever....
Run along. Im sure you will learn to love your PoS Prado again... Just click your heels 3 times and dream of your safe place...
Being a Prado driver, Im thinking your safe place is doing 80 in the fast lane on SZR, never indicating just to prove how strong you are....
#25
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You mean as boring as the PoS Prado driver who cut me off at 145km the other day?
Nope. Sorry, mate. Drive a boring Nissan Tiida rental. 13th monthly rental contract now and still haven't bothered to look at new cars.
In past life I have owned an Audi, a Pajero, a Golf. Driven a Volvo and Honda as well.
Conclusion: all same same. Car to get from point A to point B. Anything else is merely self-justification. Makes you happy? Go for it. But don't make yourself a fool mocking perfectly reliable and sensible cars.
Nope. Sorry, mate. Drive a boring Nissan Tiida rental. 13th monthly rental contract now and still haven't bothered to look at new cars.
In past life I have owned an Audi, a Pajero, a Golf. Driven a Volvo and Honda as well.
Conclusion: all same same. Car to get from point A to point B. Anything else is merely self-justification. Makes you happy? Go for it. But don't make yourself a fool mocking perfectly reliable and sensible cars.
A car person does not look for reliable and sensible. A car person looks for something that puts a smile on their face.
You talk about cars the same way I talk about washing machines...
#26
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We've has a Durango, Q5 and now on a Prado.
Pick of the bunch is the Durango, reliable, plenty of room and decent interior.
The Prado feels a little more sturdier, but I'd still take the Durango over it.
Pick of the bunch is the Durango, reliable, plenty of room and decent interior.
The Prado feels a little more sturdier, but I'd still take the Durango over it.
#27
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Thanks guys for the lowdown and detailed discussions on the SUVs and the sports cars.
Just in terms of after sales service quality, is there a specific ranking you're willing to put out? Toyota better than VW better than Mitubishi types?
And Mission, any opinions on Medium range (Merc/ Leus/ Audi etc) 5 seater sedans with enough boot space for golf kit? Dont want to drive a truck everywhere.....
Just in terms of after sales service quality, is there a specific ranking you're willing to put out? Toyota better than VW better than Mitubishi types?
And Mission, any opinions on Medium range (Merc/ Leus/ Audi etc) 5 seater sedans with enough boot space for golf kit? Dont want to drive a truck everywhere.....
#28
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Ok, maybe I should have been more specific...
If you wanted a 4 dr sports car, which would you go for...
TBH, mission, that is probably the most unimaginative list of 'decent sports cars' I have seen, and VERY Euro-centric...
No LFA, Orochi (sp?).. Or we could go old-school.. I repo'd enough Evo's, 3000GT's, NSX's and GT-R's in my time...
Lets forget Asia...
SRT do anything for you, Shelby wet your whistle... Or are you a little hipster, Tesla maybe...
Each to their own, and if you limit your sights to the horizon set for you by AutoExpress or its ilk, then I'd probably have the same list as you...
But, next time, let the men talk cars...
If you wanted a 4 dr sports car, which would you go for...
TBH, mission, that is probably the most unimaginative list of 'decent sports cars' I have seen, and VERY Euro-centric...
No LFA, Orochi (sp?).. Or we could go old-school.. I repo'd enough Evo's, 3000GT's, NSX's and GT-R's in my time...
Lets forget Asia...
SRT do anything for you, Shelby wet your whistle... Or are you a little hipster, Tesla maybe...
Each to their own, and if you limit your sights to the horizon set for you by AutoExpress or its ilk, then I'd probably have the same list as you...
But, next time, let the men talk cars...
#29
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Re: Which Car Question
Without pissing on anyone's car choice i recently got a 2014 Cadillac SRX and love it, its the first car iv owned in years, its big enough to feel safe without feeling like im driving a bus.
#30
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Just like the Prado and Land Cruisers - who 'designed' the interiors? It's the bit you sit in so should be nice at least. They're awful places to be. Even my Explorer is nicer and it's utterly bang average inside.
Not to mention completely pointless out here. Where do you drive it with any enjoyment?
I was agreeing with a lot of your points up until the bold bit. Don't be a fool for mocking people's desires for better than basic.