Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
#241
You read these things?
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Also, if you think that's wrong, wait until you find out some of the questions that they are legally entitled to ask you about.
#243
Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Naive perhaps, but not a known troll, just FYI, as folks seem to be implying :/
#244
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Interesting to see all the ongoing discussion despite the date of the first post. I guess this discussion will continue to go back and forth. Here's what I know though: AMMROC currently has 1300 employees. They plan to ramp up to about 3000 within the next few years. Most of the workforce is comprised of Yanks, Brits, a few Aussies and Canadians. They are typically skilled Aircraft Mechanics with military/civilian experience. Mechanics do not make the same as Engineers/Program Managers, yet many, based on their research, believe their salary is sufficient, and have therefore accepted their offer and are trying it out. Will be interesting to see how they manage 6 to 12 months from now. Stay tuned...
#247
Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
And nowadays i dont think employers search for people on forums, they dont need to, for every one vacancy out there, they get 50+ applicants, employers dont hunt, people hunt them.
And I dont think they have the time to google people. They read the application, and if they like it, they call me.
And I dont think they have the time to google people. They read the application, and if they like it, they call me.
#248
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
the thing is, my CV dont have alot of things they could google, they could google my phone number, email, employment history, my name, but theres millions of AC's, what else?
#249
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Do me a favour. In the search box of Facebook, type your email address in. If the email address you apply through is the same as the one you've register on Facebook with, you'll be the only Adrian Charles that pops up.
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#250
Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Also, expat life makes you very visible unless you really care to hide from everyone.
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Many of the (incredibly condescending) commenters here opine that perfect English grammar and a spotless internet history are a requirement for every position being filled. Employers are apparently poised like cranky school mistresses with red pens over sheaves of background research on every candidate, ready to vengefully strike out any offending split infinitive. That is nonsense, especially for technical roles.
For a start, we are in Asia where English is simply required to be functional and, at best, is the second language of most people, including most of the recruiting managers. Clarity in expression is required, of course, but that is often facilitated better by the non-idiomatic use of the language by those who only know the basics. Where you put the apostrophe and an occasional misspelling due to the ridiculously inconsistent pronunciation of English words is not an issue. I manage and recruit technical people in this region and around the world. Many of them, including senior ones, would struggle to put together a coherent post to this forum. Nevertheless I am very glad to have them and they are extremely valuable employees - and English is the exclusive language of business in our company. Some of their communications make me wince sometimes - why do people in India need to "discuss on" something??? -but as long as I know what they mean then it just doesn't matter.
And as for trawling the internet to try and find incriminating tidbits about prospective employees, well who the hell has the time to do that? If you run an effective recruitment process, check references and google employment history and relevant educational qualifications why on earth would you want to look at extraneous stuff? Perhaps for certain specific types of positions some of this material might be relevant but by and large the whole "Facebook cost me my job" media hysteria is massive exaggeration. I have never encountered this kind of research neither in any interview process of which I have been part, nor practised by any of my employers. It exists, no doubt, but only by exception as it is extremely time-consuming and of minimal value to an employer so why bother anyway....
For a start, we are in Asia where English is simply required to be functional and, at best, is the second language of most people, including most of the recruiting managers. Clarity in expression is required, of course, but that is often facilitated better by the non-idiomatic use of the language by those who only know the basics. Where you put the apostrophe and an occasional misspelling due to the ridiculously inconsistent pronunciation of English words is not an issue. I manage and recruit technical people in this region and around the world. Many of them, including senior ones, would struggle to put together a coherent post to this forum. Nevertheless I am very glad to have them and they are extremely valuable employees - and English is the exclusive language of business in our company. Some of their communications make me wince sometimes - why do people in India need to "discuss on" something??? -but as long as I know what they mean then it just doesn't matter.
And as for trawling the internet to try and find incriminating tidbits about prospective employees, well who the hell has the time to do that? If you run an effective recruitment process, check references and google employment history and relevant educational qualifications why on earth would you want to look at extraneous stuff? Perhaps for certain specific types of positions some of this material might be relevant but by and large the whole "Facebook cost me my job" media hysteria is massive exaggeration. I have never encountered this kind of research neither in any interview process of which I have been part, nor practised by any of my employers. It exists, no doubt, but only by exception as it is extremely time-consuming and of minimal value to an employer so why bother anyway....
Last edited by Miss Anne Thrope; Jul 25th 2012 at 5:21 am. Reason: Trailing subjunctive
#253
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Many of the (incredibly condescending) commenters here opine that perfect English grammar and a spotless internet history are a requirement for every position being filled. Employers are apparently poised like cranky school mistresses with red pens over sheaves of background research on every candidate, ready to vengefully strike out any offending split infinitive. That is nonsense, especially for technical roles.
For a start, we are in Asia where English is simply required to be functional and, at best, is the second language of most people, including most of the recruiting managers. Clarity in expression is required, of course, but that is often facilitated better by the non-idiomatic use of the language by those who only know the basics. Where you put the apostrophe and an occasional misspelling due to the ridiculously inconsistent pronunciation of English words is not an issue. I manage and recruit technical people in this region and around the world. Many of them, including senior ones, would struggle to put together a coherent post to this forum. Nevertheless I am very glad to have them and they are extremely valuable employees - and English is the exclusive language of business in our company. Some of their communications make me wince sometimes - why do people in India need to "discuss on" something??? -but as long as I know what they mean then it just doesn't matter.
And as for trawling the internet to try and find incriminating tidbits about prospective employees, well who the hell has the time to do that? If you run an effective recruitment process, check references and google employment history and relevant educational qualifications why on earth would you want to look at extraneous stuff? Perhaps for certain specific types of positions some of this material might be relevant but by and large the whole "Facebook cost me my job" media hysteria is massive exaggeration. I have never encountered this kind of research neither in any interview process of which I have been part, nor practised by any of my employers. It exists, no doubt, but only by exception as it is extremely time-consuming and of minimal value to an employer so why bother anyway....
For a start, we are in Asia where English is simply required to be functional and, at best, is the second language of most people, including most of the recruiting managers. Clarity in expression is required, of course, but that is often facilitated better by the non-idiomatic use of the language by those who only know the basics. Where you put the apostrophe and an occasional misspelling due to the ridiculously inconsistent pronunciation of English words is not an issue. I manage and recruit technical people in this region and around the world. Many of them, including senior ones, would struggle to put together a coherent post to this forum. Nevertheless I am very glad to have them and they are extremely valuable employees - and English is the exclusive language of business in our company. Some of their communications make me wince sometimes - why do people in India need to "discuss on" something??? -but as long as I know what they mean then it just doesn't matter.
And as for trawling the internet to try and find incriminating tidbits about prospective employees, well who the hell has the time to do that? If you run an effective recruitment process, check references and google employment history and relevant educational qualifications why on earth would you want to look at extraneous stuff? Perhaps for certain specific types of positions some of this material might be relevant but by and large the whole "Facebook cost me my job" media hysteria is massive exaggeration. I have never encountered this kind of research neither in any interview process of which I have been part, nor practised by any of my employers. It exists, no doubt, but only by exception as it is extremely time-consuming and of minimal value to an employer so why bother anyway....
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Re: Can't afford Abu Dhabi...
Many of the (incredibly condescending) commenters here opine that perfect English grammar and a spotless internet history are a requirement for every position being filled. Employers are apparently poised like cranky school mistresses with red pens over sheaves of background research on every candidate, ready to vengefully strike out any offending split infinitive. That is nonsense, especially for technical roles.
For a start, we are in Asia where English is simply required to be functional and, at best, is the second language of most people, including most of the recruiting managers. Clarity in expression is required, of course, but that is often facilitated better by the non-idiomatic use of the language by those who only know the basics. Where you put the apostrophe and an occasional misspelling due to the ridiculously inconsistent pronunciation of English words is not an issue. I manage and recruit technical people in this region and around the world. Many of them, including senior ones, would struggle to put together a coherent post to this forum. Nevertheless I am very glad to have them and they are extremely valuable employees - and English is the exclusive language of business in our company. Some of their communications make me wince sometimes - why do people in India need to "discuss on" something??? -but as long as I know what they mean then it just doesn't matter.
And as for trawling the internet to try and find incriminating tidbits about prospective employees, well who the hell has the time to do that? If you run an effective recruitment process, check references and google employment history and relevant educational qualifications why on earth would you want to look at extraneous stuff? Perhaps for certain specific types of positions some of this material might be relevant but by and large the whole "Facebook cost me my job" media hysteria is massive exaggeration. I have never encountered this kind of research neither in any interview process of which I have been part, nor practised by any of my employers. It exists, no doubt, but only by exception as it is extremely time-consuming and of minimal value to an employer so why bother anyway....
For a start, we are in Asia where English is simply required to be functional and, at best, is the second language of most people, including most of the recruiting managers. Clarity in expression is required, of course, but that is often facilitated better by the non-idiomatic use of the language by those who only know the basics. Where you put the apostrophe and an occasional misspelling due to the ridiculously inconsistent pronunciation of English words is not an issue. I manage and recruit technical people in this region and around the world. Many of them, including senior ones, would struggle to put together a coherent post to this forum. Nevertheless I am very glad to have them and they are extremely valuable employees - and English is the exclusive language of business in our company. Some of their communications make me wince sometimes - why do people in India need to "discuss on" something??? -but as long as I know what they mean then it just doesn't matter.
And as for trawling the internet to try and find incriminating tidbits about prospective employees, well who the hell has the time to do that? If you run an effective recruitment process, check references and google employment history and relevant educational qualifications why on earth would you want to look at extraneous stuff? Perhaps for certain specific types of positions some of this material might be relevant but by and large the whole "Facebook cost me my job" media hysteria is massive exaggeration. I have never encountered this kind of research neither in any interview process of which I have been part, nor practised by any of my employers. It exists, no doubt, but only by exception as it is extremely time-consuming and of minimal value to an employer so why bother anyway....