Brexit anyone else worried
#17
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
Who really knows.
One theory is the EU will want to sort this out very quickly to prevent the independence fires from spreading into Europe so we could be fully withdrawn in a much shorter time frame.
My guess is that if there is Brexit people will start ignoring EU regulations and laws on both sides, so even if officially the process takes multiple years, in reality the unofficial withdrawal will have happened much earlier. It'll be interesting to see what's done regarding EU migrant movement into Europe and how that is halted. BoJo and Gove released some statements the other day that more or less called for immediate withdrawal from many key EU institutions including the halting of freedom of movement into the UK.
Despite Article 50, which was never really meant to be invoked, the rule books will be burned by Brexit and it's anyone's guess how the full withdrawal will take place or how quickly it will be, though my money is on a fairly rapid and quick withdrawal in most areas, with the civil servants finally earning their keep in negotiating various trade deals over a few years.
One theory is the EU will want to sort this out very quickly to prevent the independence fires from spreading into Europe so we could be fully withdrawn in a much shorter time frame.
My guess is that if there is Brexit people will start ignoring EU regulations and laws on both sides, so even if officially the process takes multiple years, in reality the unofficial withdrawal will have happened much earlier. It'll be interesting to see what's done regarding EU migrant movement into Europe and how that is halted. BoJo and Gove released some statements the other day that more or less called for immediate withdrawal from many key EU institutions including the halting of freedom of movement into the UK.
Despite Article 50, which was never really meant to be invoked, the rule books will be burned by Brexit and it's anyone's guess how the full withdrawal will take place or how quickly it will be, though my money is on a fairly rapid and quick withdrawal in most areas, with the civil servants finally earning their keep in negotiating various trade deals over a few years.
At least couple of years it would seem - EU Referendum: Know the facts: Square One Law guide lays out four possible legal outcomes of Brexit - Square One Law
HTH.
HTH.
#18
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
You can say the same thing about EU residents already in the UK. If I were one I'd have started the process of applying for a UK passport now. Post-brexit, I wouldn't count on anything.
#19
Re: Brexit anyone else worried
so has everyone who is an expat got themselves registered to vote?
I haven't
I haven't
#20
Re: Brexit anyone else worried
No, didn't register.
Went online, but I felt a bit uneasy at answering questions like " When did you permanently leave the UK".
As I see it, I haven't permanently left the UK, I'm just out here on loan.
Went online, but I felt a bit uneasy at answering questions like " When did you permanently leave the UK".
As I see it, I haven't permanently left the UK, I'm just out here on loan.
#22
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
[QUOTE=eastrunner;11972878]I wasn't around when the last referendum happened in the 70's, but this one is giving me the jitters, from potential negative equity in our London home and a host of other problems. With everything tipping towards Leave. All the Polls suggesting 'leave' ahead (except Bloomberg). Anyone else worried? am I missing something.
Seems like at the end its 2 arguments for the voters are, if you care about the economy stay, if you want to control migration Leave.
[URL="http://www.ft.com/intl/eu-referendum"]Brexit[/UR
A man from Ladbrooks was saying on TV yesterday they estimated (as of yesterday) there was an 38% chance of a Brexit. He said Ladbrooks info. was therefore different from the Polls. He did give the odds but I don't remember them.
Seems like at the end its 2 arguments for the voters are, if you care about the economy stay, if you want to control migration Leave.
[URL="http://www.ft.com/intl/eu-referendum"]Brexit[/UR
A man from Ladbrooks was saying on TV yesterday they estimated (as of yesterday) there was an 38% chance of a Brexit. He said Ladbrooks info. was therefore different from the Polls. He did give the odds but I don't remember them.
#23
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
Brexit won't happen!! mathematically and the probabilities are at less than a 25% chance.....opinion polls are unfortunately way off, in the May 2015 General election if the opinion polls were embarrassingly wrong
#25
Re: Brexit anyone else worried
People have a habit of being reluctant to admit to having an "unpopular" or "controversial" viewpoint, and/or changing their mind when they actually get to the polling booth.
In short, I suspect that the opinion polls may be wrong, but wrong in the opposite direction to you.
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
Similar here (although the "permanently left" bit I have not qualms with because it's a part of the UK non-resident equation). The older I get the more I distrust govt departments with mal-use of my personal information. 1 week after having an NHS procedure a couple of years ago I was approached by a health insurance company referring to my recent procedure -- only the NHS could have told them.
#28
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
She was actually quite funny for once. Said she was impressed that I cared so much and had given it so much thought (we had several long skype sessions discussing it all).
So, she said she'd vote OUT just to counter my vote and render all my time spent as pointless.
Pretty good from her. BUt worry not, she promised to vote Remain.
Similar here (although the "permanently left" bit I have not qualms with because it's a part of the UK non-resident equation). The older I get the more I distrust govt departments with mal-use of my personal information. 1 week after having an NHS procedure a couple of years ago I was approached by a health insurance company referring to my recent procedure -- only the NHS could have told them.
Dad didn't register to vote because he's back in the UK quite a bit now and doesn't want the tax man knowing anything. Probably good thing as he's in the over 65 category of not giving a **** and would likely have voted out.
#29
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Re: Brexit anyone else worried
My sister just voted by proxy for me. I'm Leave, she and her husband were undecided and not sure if they were going to vote. Long and short of it, my proxy dragged 'em both down the Polling Station and they both voted Remain; I should have kept schtum.