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Calgary2021 Nov 24th 2021 9:30 pm

Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 
Not sure if anyone here has experience with QP job offers for Expats (British). Currently am reviewing two offers, one from Aramco and another one from QP. Would definitely prefer Qatar to move to, if had a choice. However, the QP offer is 30-40% less for total cash in hand monthly. Is that normal? Or is QP low balling me? Same position, same seniority. It is for a Senior Accountant with 18 years experience in the West (also Western educated). Any ideas what should be the level of compensation I can expect from QP?

nonthaburi Nov 25th 2021 2:13 am

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 
Why do you prefer QP to Aramco? Just wondering.

Calgary2021 Nov 25th 2021 2:22 am

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 

Originally Posted by nonthaburi (Post 13075625)
Why do you prefer QP to Aramco? Just wondering.

Not so much the company, but preference is more for the country of Qatar vs Saudi Arabia.

flares Nov 25th 2021 7:07 am

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 

Originally Posted by Calgary2021 (Post 13075628)
Not so much the company, but preference is more for the country of Qatar vs Saudi Arabia.

you'll be in for a surprise...KSA>Qatar for me

psychopomp1 Nov 25th 2021 7:16 am

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 
The Aramco offer will be higher to attract more expats to KSA, since working in KSA isn't exactly an exciting prospect for most westerners. A bit like why QP salaries are higher than ADNOC salaries. Or why Shell pay their expats a 40-50% uplift to work as commuters to Iraq versus their Dubai based staff (SIPD HQ is in Dubai).

As you say, living in Qatar is preferable to KSA though Qatar is still quite conservative.

If it helps I was working at QP earlier in the year, had no issues at all. Working hours were great (0630-1430hrs Sun to Thu) and you get shed loads of paid holidays during major public holiday periods - i think at the last Eid, QP staff were given the whole 2 weeks off. However, QP are/were in the process of pushing many of their direct hire staff to agencies in order to save cash.

Johnnyboy11 Nov 25th 2021 1:49 pm

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 

Originally Posted by flares (Post 13075677)
you'll be in for a surprise...KSA>Qatar for me

I'll second that.

Calgary2021 Nov 25th 2021 2:15 pm

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 

Originally Posted by flares (Post 13075677)
you'll be in for a surprise...KSA>Qatar for me

Interesting. I've heard KSA has changed a lot last few years, but then also horror stories on how not to move with wife and kids there ever, and only go there to make money by yourself and leave kids and wife back home in the West. But I guess things may have been changing for the good?

nonthaburi Nov 25th 2021 4:30 pm

Re: Aramco vs Qatar Petroleum
 

Originally Posted by Calgary2021 (Post 13075736)
Interesting. I've heard KSA has changed a lot last few years, but then also horror stories on how not to move with wife and kids there ever, and only go there to make money by yourself and leave kids and wife back home in the West. But I guess things may have been changing for the good?

Notwithstanding the changes over the past few years but I would go as far to say that KSA can be a great place to raise a family, depending on your location and living conditions. I think the problem comes when the kids get to secondary school age though.

I've met countless families who've made a go of it over the years.

I think the thing with Qatar is that people look at the laws and say it's more liberal etc(marginally), which it is, but at the end of the day you're still going to be doing the same old stuff, and in KSA you've got a lot more options. Qatar has the same population as greater Manchester. It's going to shrink and shrink.

It can be a pretty good social circuit in Saudi.


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