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L1bel Sep 17th 2008 2:42 pm

Alcohol - That old chestnut
 
Hello all

I am a new joiner who is currently weighing up the prospects of moving to Dubai. This is an excellent forum to conduct research but there is one issue on which I am not quite clear.

Booze - I'm aware of the requirement for ex-pats to obtain a licence but here's the kicker....although I'm born and raised in England, I'm of Muslim descent. From what I can find out so far, the alcohol licence is only available to non-muslims.

So my question is effectively - Are there any ways around this so I can be treated just like any other expat?!

I have seen references to having to register if you are a muslim but I would put my faith down as Agnostic and hope to get a licence that way. Although my name (and face!) would give it away, I'm wondering how strictly this aspect of the law is enforced against non-practicing muslims!

Any help would be much appreciated. don't much fancy going on the wagon for a few years!

Inselaffen Sep 17th 2008 2:45 pm

Re: Alcohol - That old chestnut
 

Originally Posted by L1bel (Post 6792570)
Hello all

I am a new joiner who is currently weighing up the prospects of moving to Dubai. This is an excellent forum to conduct research but there is one issue on which I am not quite clear.

Booze - I'm aware of the requirement for ex-pats to obtain a licence but here's the kicker....although I'm born and raised in England, I'm of Muslim descent. From what I can find out so far, the alcohol licence is only available to non-muslims.

So my question is effectively - Are there any ways around this so I can be treated just like any other expat?!

I have seen references to having to register if you are a muslim but I would put my faith down as Agnostic and hope to get a licence that way. Although my name (and face!) would give it away, I'm wondering how strictly this aspect of the law is enforced against non-practicing muslims!

Any help would be much appreciated. don't much fancy going on the wagon for a few years!

you might have problems getting a licence but you can go to other emirates and buy booze there. not strictly legal but widely done

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 2:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6792578)
you might have problems getting a licence but you can go to other emirates and buy booze there. not strictly legal but widely done

That would be fine for drinking at home but I'm guessing it means I wouldn't be able to get a drink in a hotel bar or restaurant?!

Madam Medusa Sep 17th 2008 2:50 pm

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Originally Posted by L1bel (Post 6792581)
That would be fine for drinking at home but I'm guessing it means I wouldn't be able to get a drink in a hotel bar or restaurant?!

no you'll be fine...muslim guys in national dress drink openly in bars and restaurants here...

MM, xx

The Dean Sep 17th 2008 2:52 pm

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Do NOT put your faith down as 'agnostic'......

........ no such thing out here............

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 2:54 pm

Re: Alcohol - That old chestnut
 

Originally Posted by Madam Medusa (Post 6792591)
no you'll be fine...muslim guys in national dress drink openly in bars and restaurants here...

MM, xx

Well that's some comfort, thanks MM! ;)

Bijilo123 Sep 17th 2008 2:56 pm

Re: Alcohol - That old chestnut
 
Don't you think you should seek medical help if drinking is such a compulsion with you?

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 2:57 pm

Re: Alcohol - That old chestnut
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6792593)
Do NOT put your faith down as 'agnostic'......

........ no such thing out here............

Ah, thanks for the tip!!

I'm reluctant to put down Muslim as that would completely prevent me from getting a licence (as I understand it). And if do put down Muslim but later get pulled up by an over-zealous official for having a drink in a bar, then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. In which case do you think I should just put down another of the main religions? Or Mormon?!

MataHari Sep 17th 2008 2:57 pm

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Originally Posted by L1bel (Post 6792598)
Well that's some comfort, thanks MM! ;)

yes...we always find it a comforting sight as well...if they are goodlooking that is...

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 3:00 pm

Re: Alcohol - That old chestnut
 

Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 6792604)
Don't you think you should seek medical help if drinking is such a compulsion with you?

Hardly a compulsion, Bijilo. Just want to be fully informed about what the position would be if I decided to make the move. At no point did I suggest that I would not move if I couldn't have the drink but not being able to have even an occasional drink for a 3yr + period is a lifestyle choice.

Don't you think you should be using your time more productively instead of posting unhelpful responses to genuine queries? ;)

Bijilo123 Sep 17th 2008 3:01 pm

Re: Alcohol - That old chestnut
 

Originally Posted by L1bel (Post 6792606)
Ah, thanks for the tip!!

I'm reluctant to put down Muslim as that would completely prevent me from getting a licence (as I understand it). And if do put down Muslim but later get pulled up by an over-zealous official for having a drink in a bar, then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. In which case do you think I should just put down another of the main religions? Or Mormon?!

You could try telling the truth. We cannot advise you to lie to a government.

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 3:02 pm

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Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6792607)
yes...we always find it a comforting sight as well...if they are goodlooking that is...

Yes, I suppose a a grizzly bear with a pint isn't the most appealing of sights!

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 3:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 6792622)
You could try telling the truth. We cannot advise you to lie to a government.

Still not found anything better to do I see!

To clarify, I am not asking for advice about how to lie to the Government but there is a difference between what is technically illegal and what is, in practice, permitted or tolerated. The purpose of the query is simply to try and get some clarity on where the boundaries lie on this particular issue. I don't think someone who comes on this forum for this purpose deserves or needs your pointless remarks.

Bijilo123 Sep 17th 2008 3:09 pm

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No, my point is valid. We cannot advise you to say something that is not true. But I can't be bothered with you either so I'll discontinue remarking.

L1bel Sep 17th 2008 3:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 6792647)
No, my point is valid. We cannot advise you to say something that is not true. But I can't be bothered with you either so I'll discontinue remarking.

Well that's a relief. Pity you couldn't resist your eristic urges in the first place, though. Good day to you.


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