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Old Jun 27th 2012, 1:19 am
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Originally Posted by Bob
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Chances are, they do have more experience than you and probably much larger list of qualifications and degrees too.
I concur.
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Old Jun 27th 2012, 1:20 am
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IT staff from th sub-continent do tend to have more qualification and certifications, but tend to lack in-depth real world experience. Where I work, the common complaint is that they don't integrate as well as the westerners. At least we Brits will give it a go when it comes to mingling, but the Indians just put their heads down and get on with the job. We can discuss football with the Saudis, places for them to visit in the UK or Europe, Hollywood movies etc...
And you think that banter alone deserves 100% more salary? (as someone mentioned earlier that subcontinent staff for with same or more qualifications is 50% cheaper).
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Old Jun 27th 2012, 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by sa49873
Pythonista,

Do you know any good IT recruiters in Qatar?

thx,
Ali.
Ali,

Try monstergulf. It appears to be really good with IT jobs.
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Old Jun 27th 2012, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by london_lad
Ali,

Try monstergulf. It appears to be really good with IT jobs.


Thanks mate but I haven't had any luck on this site too .

If anyone knows any good recruiters there and can provide their contact details that would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Ali
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Old Jun 27th 2012, 8:55 pm
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Dont worry Ali. Took me about 2 years to find something worth my while. Its slow but it works.

Sites which got me phone calls from recruiters/headhunters and some of the HR people of the companies themselves were naukrigulf, monstergulf and efinancialcareers.

Gulftalent and Bayt were hopeless for me. Id be very surprised if someone got good results out of the other two.

Have you tried approaching people through groups on LinkedIn (search for security middle east, qatar, saudi, etc as keywords).
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Old Jun 28th 2012, 11:39 am
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Dont worry Ali. Took me about 2 years to find something worth my while. Its slow but it works.

Sites which got me phone calls from recruiters/headhunters and some of the HR people of the companies themselves were naukrigulf, monstergulf and efinancialcareers.

Gulftalent and Bayt were hopeless for me. Id be very surprised if someone got good results out of the other two.

Have you tried approaching people through groups on LinkedIn (search for security middle east, qatar, saudi, etc as keywords).



Yeah mate I have got accounts on all these sites and have sent quite a few emails to people on LinkedIn but no replies as such. Will keep looking.

thanks,
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Old Jun 28th 2012, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by sa49873
Yeah mate I have got accounts on all these sites and have sent quite a few emails to people on LinkedIn but no replies as such. Will keep looking.

thanks,
Ali
Have you considered IT pre-sales? It's another angle to look at while you're looking for an IT department job.
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Old Jul 2nd 2012, 2:22 pm
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Usual thing - throw enough people at it and it will work.....
Yeah, also dont forget the other one, no matter how fawked up the problems are, throw enough money at it, and the problem goes away . (I'm in IT too)
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Have you considered IT pre-sales? It's another angle to look at while you're looking for an IT department job.
+1. If I were the OP, I would seriously re-read this post. What you don't want to do it position yourself in the same basket of eggs as the endless stream of Bangalore IT folks[1] and what you do want to do is position yourself as a UK candidate who understands the company's challenges in the marketplace and who has very strong technical skills and English language skills.

[1] Nothing wrong with these folks, some are very competent, some aren't. But they will almost always undercut you wage and salary wise and there is very little you can do about it. So accept it and work with it.

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Is the basic consensus that as a UK IT guy there isn't really any point aiming for the technical positions because they will be taken up by the stream of people from places like India?

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+1. If I were the OP, I would seriously re-read this post. What you don't want to do it position yourself in the same basket of eggs as the endless stream of Bangalore IT folks[1] and what you do want to do is position yourself as a UK candidate who understands the company's challenges in the marketplace and who has very strong technical skills and English language skills.

[1] Nothing wrong with these folks, some are very competent, some aren't. But they will almost always undercut you wage and salary wise and there is very little you can do about it. So accept it and work with it.


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Old Jul 3rd 2012, 12:04 pm
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Is the basic consensus that as a UK IT guy there isn't really any point aiming for the technical positions because they will be taken up by the stream of people from places like India?
Depends on what IT skills you have.

PC support, forget it. More specialised - networking, storage etc... you may have a better chance.
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Old Jul 3rd 2012, 6:01 pm
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Depends on what IT skills you have.

PC support, forget it. More specialised - networking, storage etc... you may have a better chance.
Nah, its storage and networking as well. Pretty much all except some very high IT management jobs.
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Old Jul 3rd 2012, 6:20 pm
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really any point aiming for the technical positions because they will be taken up by the stream of people from places like India?
sounds like UK and UAE are in pretty much the same boat as Canada.
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Nah, its storage and networking as well. Pretty much all except some very high IT management jobs.
Incorrect. I work in data storage and there are still good packages to be had in the region, even UAE.
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Old Jul 4th 2012, 10:31 am
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Incorrect. I work in data storage and there are still good packages to be had in the region, even UAE.
Thanks. I was more referring to the state of things in Canada with particular focus on the GTA. Most junior and mid IT positions you will find filled by Indians and Pakistanis. Its driven IT salaries down a bit.
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