Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
#1
Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
Hi All.
So as many of you know I was offered a post at Al Rahba hospital a few months ago. I signed the offer.
The hospital have been pretty picky about everything.
They have now come back and said that they want my service cert from HR to state that I take charge. I spoke to HR a couple of months ago, they won't say I take charge as they say that they are not involved with the running of the ward. Both of my references state that I take charge of the ward but this doesn't appear to be enough.
The hospital are now saying that unless I can get a new service cert then they will withdraw my offer of charge nurse and offer me staff nurse. The wages are about the same but a huge drop in accomodation allowance.
Are they able to do this?
Sorry for long post but head is in a spin and pretty fed up.
Thanks.
Sarah
So as many of you know I was offered a post at Al Rahba hospital a few months ago. I signed the offer.
The hospital have been pretty picky about everything.
They have now come back and said that they want my service cert from HR to state that I take charge. I spoke to HR a couple of months ago, they won't say I take charge as they say that they are not involved with the running of the ward. Both of my references state that I take charge of the ward but this doesn't appear to be enough.
The hospital are now saying that unless I can get a new service cert then they will withdraw my offer of charge nurse and offer me staff nurse. The wages are about the same but a huge drop in accomodation allowance.
Are they able to do this?
Sorry for long post but head is in a spin and pretty fed up.
Thanks.
Sarah
#2
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
yep they have to tick their little boxes if they dont have the required stuff then they wont tick them..... unfortunately that is the way of the world over here. can you perhaps give them a reference from somebody saying what they want to hear?
#3
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
as an example, an engineer had a masters degree but in order for the dept of transport to tick their box he needed to have a plain degree, he didnt, no matter how much explanation was given to them saying that a masters degree was the next step up and better they wouldnt go for it and he didnt get approved for the job.
#4
Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
I don't know what else I can do.
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
sorry dont know what else to suggest things run quite differently here in the uae
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
nope welcome to the middle east....
#8
Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
You deserved an mbe...spreading yourself thin and helping us poor soul
May you be blessed.
Cant disturb madam's brunch of smoked salmon omellete so wait till after tea
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
Busybee i am going to see if i can pull some links with the establishment...your work is even more than the 11 taking the little vial of ashes.
You deserved an mbe...spreading yourself thin and helping us poor soul
May you be blessed.
Cant disturb madam's brunch of smoked salmon omellete so wait till after tea
You deserved an mbe...spreading yourself thin and helping us poor soul
May you be blessed.
Cant disturb madam's brunch of smoked salmon omellete so wait till after tea
#10
Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
Hi All.
So as many of you know I was offered a post at Al Rahba hospital a few months ago. I signed the offer.
The hospital have been pretty picky about everything.
They have now come back and said that they want my service cert from HR to state that I take charge. I spoke to HR a couple of months ago, they won't say I take charge as they say that they are not involved with the running of the ward. Both of my references state that I take charge of the ward but this doesn't appear to be enough.
The hospital are now saying that unless I can get a new service cert then they will withdraw my offer of charge nurse and offer me staff nurse. The wages are about the same but a huge drop in accomodation allowance.
Are they able to do this?
Sorry for long post but head is in a spin and pretty fed up.
Thanks.
Sarah
So as many of you know I was offered a post at Al Rahba hospital a few months ago. I signed the offer.
The hospital have been pretty picky about everything.
They have now come back and said that they want my service cert from HR to state that I take charge. I spoke to HR a couple of months ago, they won't say I take charge as they say that they are not involved with the running of the ward. Both of my references state that I take charge of the ward but this doesn't appear to be enough.
The hospital are now saying that unless I can get a new service cert then they will withdraw my offer of charge nurse and offer me staff nurse. The wages are about the same but a huge drop in accomodation allowance.
Are they able to do this?
Sorry for long post but head is in a spin and pretty fed up.
Thanks.
Sarah
Get some letter head paper from your current employer and write a letter to your new employer...
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
CAn you simply explain to the agency that under EU legislation, the only references HR/former employers are obliged to pass on is confirmation of position held and length of service? Hence your HR dept saying they can't oblige with "line management" comments/confirmation etc.
I was asked for experience certificates which I didn't have. I did however find a way around it that authenticated/validated my CV and this was enough to "tick their box".
You do seem to be caught in the middle but try to persevere and try explain they are asking for something that isn't available due to laws in your home country.
Good luck!
I was asked for experience certificates which I didn't have. I did however find a way around it that authenticated/validated my CV and this was enough to "tick their box".
You do seem to be caught in the middle but try to persevere and try explain they are asking for something that isn't available due to laws in your home country.
Good luck!
#13
Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
CAn you simply explain to the agency that under EU legislation, the only references HR/former employers are obliged to pass on is confirmation of position held and length of service? Hence your HR dept saying they can't oblige with "line management" comments/confirmation etc.
I was asked for experience certificates which I didn't have. I did however find a way around it that authenticated/validated my CV and this was enough to "tick their box".
You do seem to be caught in the middle but try to persevere and try explain they are asking for something that isn't available due to laws in your home country.
Good luck!
I was asked for experience certificates which I didn't have. I did however find a way around it that authenticated/validated my CV and this was enough to "tick their box".
You do seem to be caught in the middle but try to persevere and try explain they are asking for something that isn't available due to laws in your home country.
Good luck!
Pretty fed up at the moment with it all though.
#14
Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
No she said the reference said she takes charge.
I'm taking of getting some headed paper and writing a formal letter to them stating that she takes charge maybe with a stamp or something to make it look real authentic. They like stamps here.
I know her HR department won't write it, but she could...
I'm taking of getting some headed paper and writing a formal letter to them stating that she takes charge maybe with a stamp or something to make it look real authentic. They like stamps here.
I know her HR department won't write it, but she could...
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Re: Need to vent and know if I have a leg to stand on.
No she said the reference said she takes charge.
I'm taking of getting some headed paper and writing a formal letter to them stating that she takes charge maybe with a stamp or something to make it look real authentic. They like stamps here.
I know her HR department won't write it, but she could...
I'm taking of getting some headed paper and writing a formal letter to them stating that she takes charge maybe with a stamp or something to make it look real authentic. They like stamps here.
I know her HR department won't write it, but she could...
http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/General/10325209.html
Last edited by weescot; Sep 3rd 2009 at 9:56 am. Reason: Corrected an assertion with the facts