Need advice on petroleum salary
May 19th 2011, 12:46 pm
#16
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Rents were unbelievably high in AD a couple of years ago. They're now tumbling, but 150k won't go that far for a family of four. Villas on compounds are 200k+. As someone else suggested, have a look round dubizzle.com.
May 19th 2011, 1:00 pm
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
I've got a lot more experience than that and my basic is considerably lower! However I've just got an expectant wife to look after so I guess my mandatory spending requirements are a bit lower...
May 19th 2011, 1:18 pm
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
However, if my assumption on your year of birth is wrong, and you have 10+ years experience and are a qualified engineer, then I would say you are not being paid very well either.
May 19th 2011, 2:23 pm
#19
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Hi guys,
I am new to this forum and looking for your advice about salary in Abu Dhabi. We are famlly with 2 kids, 1 is 5yrs old and new born
My husband is a reservoir engineer, master degree and 10yrs plus experience. He got an offer to work as either a permenant staff or day rate staff.
Day rate is USD670, working days 214 days, so he'll get about USD12K per month. It includes everything. Health insurance for whole family, Life insurance for only himself, 5 star club member is covered by company.
The other option is permanent contract: 23K Dirham per month (total 280K), 150K per year for housing, 100K per year for car rental, education 35K per year. Health insurance for whole family, Life insurance for only himself, 5 star club member is covered by company.
Is it enough to have good life in Abu Dhabi? what is their minimum salary by law? is it enought to rent a good appartment and car with that budget? Which type of contract is better if my husband lives there alone? He has 6 month probation. Should we move whole family to AD? We are living in KL Malaysia now.
Please help us to make decision.
Many thanks
I am new to this forum and looking for your advice about salary in Abu Dhabi. We are famlly with 2 kids, 1 is 5yrs old and new born
My husband is a reservoir engineer, master degree and 10yrs plus experience. He got an offer to work as either a permenant staff or day rate staff.
Day rate is USD670, working days 214 days, so he'll get about USD12K per month. It includes everything. Health insurance for whole family, Life insurance for only himself, 5 star club member is covered by company.
The other option is permanent contract: 23K Dirham per month (total 280K), 150K per year for housing, 100K per year for car rental, education 35K per year. Health insurance for whole family, Life insurance for only himself, 5 star club member is covered by company.
Is it enough to have good life in Abu Dhabi? what is their minimum salary by law? is it enought to rent a good appartment and car with that budget? Which type of contract is better if my husband lives there alone? He has 6 month probation. Should we move whole family to AD? We are living in KL Malaysia now.
Please help us to make decision.
Many thanks
May 19th 2011, 5:07 pm
#20
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Is it possible that it's not a car allowance but a credit free loan?
May 19th 2011, 6:01 pm
#21
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
assuming 83 is your year of birth - Not sure how you could have even 10 years experience (nevermind a lot more than 10 years)
However, if my assumption on your year of birth is wrong, and you have 10+ years experience and are a qualified engineer, then I would say you are not being paid very well either.
However, if my assumption on your year of birth is wrong, and you have 10+ years experience and are a qualified engineer, then I would say you are not being paid very well either.
May 20th 2011, 5:13 am
#22
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Hamin - everyone's package is different. You need to find out yourself (google perhaps?) how much school fees will cost, how much housing will cost and if those allowances cover your requirements or eat into your base salary.
One example is that in my company (but in a different GCC country) expat engineers with similar experience are allowed to rent a house based on the size of their family up to a rental ceiling (ie no more than X). They have the education of up to 3 children paid for directly by the company. They have to pay for their own car or pay for the rent of their own car. The company pays for health insurance and life insurance for employee only, but club membership is a choice (because some houses are in compounds that are like mini-clubs).
Their base salary from which they pay for their car & club membership is 32000 AED per month.
May 21st 2011, 8:40 am
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Thank you everyone, your advice is really helpful.
The car allowance is actually car loan, one off payment, not yearly. It is really low package I think. We should wait for better offer from them, otherwise we prefer Kualar Lumpur.
The car allowance is actually car loan, one off payment, not yearly. It is really low package I think. We should wait for better offer from them, otherwise we prefer Kualar Lumpur.
May 21st 2011, 10:41 am
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
And ignore people's snotty comemnts about their numerous degrees. I do wonder about those who feel the need to flaunt such things, whereas most of us in the real world know that experience usually counts for a whole lot more.
May 21st 2011, 4:30 pm
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
I have experience in abundance at what i do and in the Oil industry that counts for a lot more than stupid bits of paper..
oh and for having a shitty degree and not a lot more qualifications apart from what the armed forces gave me, i do considerably well considering i'm stupid.
For example (and not gloating) the figures that 'originalsunshine' is banding above wouldnt get me out of bed in the morning. The basic would need seriously topping up for a beginning and a fully expensed 4x4, oh and an annual bonus of approx. 40% of my salary. fully paid villa, schooling medical etc are a granted
hey, but i dont have a masters degree...blah blah blah
i also love people who make statements that you must have a degree to get a visa out here..complete and utter bollocks.
again too many people out here think they are better than they really are.
May 22nd 2011, 7:14 am
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Considering the amount of really quite ignorant people I have met with apparently fancy degrees, I do wonder what they are really worth these days. How do people go through that much education yet still be unable to write proper English, use punctuation and know little about the world in which they live? 
May 22nd 2011, 7:30 am
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
The fact is that everyone in the gulf, including myself, is over paid for the work that they do (but for good reason). Degree or no degree. Some handle that fact and new wealth better than others.
Where I stand on the degree front. I have two (engineering & accounting). Have never used either and totally discredit the value of any degree, masters, or MBA of anyone who I ever had to deal with.
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May 22nd 2011, 7:51 am
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
Engineering design unfortunately doesn't just work like that, you have support your designs with facts and figures, experience just makes you faster doing it but can never replace the education.
May 22nd 2011, 9:26 am
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
To be fair it is depending a lot on what you do, in some sectors a degree is proof you can apply yourself to a course over a few years and pass it. you are essentially "trainable" and able to think logically I suppose or have the training to know when to look or where to look for answers.
Engineering design unfortunately doesn't just work like that, you have support your designs with facts and figures, experience just makes you faster doing it but can never replace the education.
Engineering design unfortunately doesn't just work like that, you have support your designs with facts and figures, experience just makes you faster doing it but can never replace the education.
No company with any credibility would have designers without the appropriate degree working for them.
May 23rd 2011, 3:39 pm
#30
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Re: Need advice on petroleum salary
the figures that 'originalsunshine' is banding above wouldnt get me out of bed in the morning
