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scrubbedexpat141 Jun 22nd 2011 11:51 am

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by Mullet (Post 9449206)
Of course, but talented people are always in demand. The best job offers will come from clients and contacts, not from recruitment consultants.:D

Swings and roundabouts. There's a reason I have vacancies and a reason I have candidates. You'd be surprised how many times you can put a candidate in front of a client and they chuckle to themselves because they did a job with them 5, 10 years ago but never thought about calling them...others are smarter / wiser / know what they want and do all that stuff themselves.


Weasel; I don't understand why you think a recruiter would try and lower the salary the candidate gets offered? I spend my life trying make salaries higher...

weasel central Jun 22nd 2011 11:57 am

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 
Simply because you are competing against other recruitment companies who will try offer similarly qualified or experienced candidates for less salary.
I don't think this btw, I see this more often than you'd expect. And in some cases unfortunately its the same candidate.
Unless you have a deal to be the sole recruitment agency for a company? and thats not something I have seen

weasel central Jun 22nd 2011 12:03 pm

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by Pezz361356 (Post 9449353)
Thank you everyone for your feedback.

I'm interested to know what the salary expectations should be in Qatar also?

I know there's a lot of work out there at the moment, and people have shown interest, so I want to compare the two.

You arent going to see a major difference either way between UAE or Qatar right now, within the company I work for Qatar is usually higher as its a less desirable location but there is no real trend either way. Dubai may be maginally more competitive due to the bad market there but Qatar has not picked up enough to see any salary growth as far as i can see.
A lot of the expected work has yet to come on stream fully.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 22nd 2011 12:04 pm

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by weasel central (Post 9449374)
Simply because you are competing against other recruitment companies who will try offer similarly qualified or experienced candidates for less salary.
I don't think this btw, I see this more often than you'd expect. And in some cases unfortunately its the same candidate.
Unless you have a deal to be the sole recruitment agency for a company? and thats not something I have seen

That surprises me...it's not logical.

Fortunately I've done both; worked as a sole supplier but as a stand alone business and as I am now working will multiple clients.

Every experience is so varied, it's why we're all labelled as shit.

Such is.:)

weasel central Jun 22nd 2011 12:23 pm

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 
From your clients perspective it is logical, if I have 2 candidates of similar calibre and experience, I am going to choose the one who wants the lower salary. (all other things being equal)

If this is your guy then your agency will get the fee, if its not the the other agency will get the fee.

Your clients will have multiple agencies.

Bahtatboy Jun 22nd 2011 1:02 pm

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by weasel central (Post 9449414)
From your clients perspective it is logical, if I have 2 candidates of similar calibre and experience, I am going to choose the one who wants the lower salary. (all other things being equal)

If this is your guy then your agency will get the fee, if its not the the other agency will get the fee.

Your clients will have multiple agencies.

Yep, exactly my experience. No disrespect here, Scamp, its just simple economics: if you're the sole agent for a client, you'll endeavour to get the candidate the highest salary (assuming your fee is a percentage of the salary); if you're not the sole agent, you'll consider persuading candidates to accept lower salaries because you know, all other things being equal, that your client wants to pay as little as possible to get a candidate who ticks all the required boxes. Genuinely, I have no disrespect for that approach--its business, and every business is there to (legitimately) maximise its profits (as well as retaining clients and keeping its employees satisfied).

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 22nd 2011 1:05 pm

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by weasel central (Post 9449414)
From your clients perspective it is logical, if I have 2 candidates of similar calibre and experience, I am going to choose the one who wants the lower salary. (all other things being equal)

If this is your guy then your agency will get the fee, if its not the the other agency will get the fee.

Your clients will have multiple agencies.

I understand what you're saying, but it's the classic argument of getting what you pay for.

If the budget for an engineer is 10,000 per month, I'll stick three guys in at 8,000, 9,000 and 10,000 so the client see's different levels...better candiates don't always cost more but generally do, and generally are worth it.

weasel central Jun 22nd 2011 1:49 pm

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 9449496)
I understand what you're saying, but it's the classic argument of getting what you pay for.

If the budget for an engineer is 10,000 per month, I'll stick three guys in at 8,000, 9,000 and 10,000 so the client see's different levels...better candiates don't always cost more but generally do, and generally are worth it.

We are going over it a little but the guy you have in at 10,000 maybe is in at 9,000 with another agency.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 23rd 2011 4:44 am

Re: Mechancial & Electrical Quantity Surveyor (MEP QS)
 

Originally Posted by weasel central (Post 9449599)
We are going over it a little but the guy you have in at 10,000 maybe is in at 9,000 with another agency.

Fortunately I rarely come up against this, but it's interesting to hear what you have seen / experienced.


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