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Old Aug 8th 2012, 10:27 pm
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Interested to know what kind of offer they make when you get it. I was going to hazard a guess at 3-4000 USD at max.
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Old Aug 11th 2012, 7:49 am
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Cripes, I hope you're well off the mark Weasel, I make double that in the UK!
Although these job titles can be very misleading, A Snr Document Controller can be, as you say a paper filer, or up to the level of a manager looking after a department....titles really mean nothing sometimes in this business.

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Cripes, I hope you're well off the mark Weasel, I make double that in the UK!
Although these job titles can be very misleading, A Snr Document Controller can be, as you say a paper filer, or up to the level of a manager looking after a department....titles really mean nothing sometimes in this business.

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The problem here mate is that titles mean everything to some , especially when dealing with different nationalities who need to differentiate themselves from others .

Ive seen photocopier operator / senior photocopier operator and photocopier in charge all on one floor and in the same building looking after one photocopier.

People work on status in this part of the world and really do have a different view of people in the working environment . It's all down to car parking spaces / offices / desks and all about empire building and one- upmanship .

Expect the unexpected , there's no level playing field in The Gulf .
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Sound advice cdb, cheers.
I'm with you there, job titles and empire building are rife where I work just now, these guys just can't wait to flaunt their status, the fact they have their own office, drive an expensive car etc, etc, in your face. I just can't be bothered with all that pretentiousness, I prefer to take people as I see them. But I agree that a high ranking title does help to get things done, as it's perceived that you are on at least the same 'level' or higher than them, rather than at a junior level and they can just spit in your face when you need something done.
I guess its even worse in Qatar, but that's life.

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Originally Posted by Scottiebloke
Sound advice cdb, cheers.
I'm with you there, job titles and empire building are rife where I work just now, these guys just can't wait to flaunt their status, the fact they have their own office, drive an expensive car etc, etc, in your face. I just can't be bothered with all that pretentiousness, I prefer to take people as I see them. But I agree that a high ranking title does help to get things done, as it's perceived that you are on at least the same 'level' or higher than them, rather than at a junior level and they can just spit in your face when you need something done.
I guess its even worse in Qatar, but that's life.

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our jobs are coded. the shorter the code number of your job, the higher up you are. 2 numbers, and you might as well be MD. 3 numbers, and you're doing pretty good. tea boy is at 7 numbers. the time it takes to get something done is exponentially linked to the size of your job code.
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Ok,so that's how these code numbers work.
I assume that coding system is for Qatari owned companies only?

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Originally Posted by Scottiebloke
Ok,so that's how these code numbers work.
I assume that coding system is for Qatari owned companies only?

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Originally Posted by Scottiebloke
Ok,so that's how these code numbers work.
I assume that coding system is for Qatari owned companies only?

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nope - quite a few companies in the GCC adopt it. it is also seen as a mixture of letters & numbers, again the fewer, the higher.
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OK, thanks for the clarification OriginalSunshine.

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Government-owned O&G companies have a set allowance system and fixed salary ranges. Say if they offer you are grade 16 (higher grade = more senior the position) then your salary could range from 18-32K /month QAR (locals have a different range). Housing is also fixed per grade (14.2K for grade 14-17 I think) schooling is paid to the maximum per the community school fees (the top-end British school) + school transportation assistance (250 QAR/month/ child). There is also salary currency protection payment, interest-free car loan (5 times the basic salary), Western allowance, and transportation allowance (normally equivalent to car loan repayments. Annual tickets home are also paid. Mob and demobilisation is also paid.
Usually this system could be bypassed if the company is very keen in employing the candidate. This is done by offering an alternative “specialist” status to the job title. Another option is to opt for a definite contract where basic salary ranges don’t apply.
It’s quite difficult to get a salary hike while in employment so you need to aim high during negotiations with HR. Changing jobs internally or externally is also near impossible.
International O&G operating companies and management consultancies/ engineering/ design houses offer a more flexible reimbursement system and possibly more rewarding however annual leave is usually as per the UK system (starting from 25 working days etc, plus public holidays & some offer Eid days too). Some of these companies offer education allowance for up to 3 kids max and some offer a lump sum package.
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Old Sep 5th 2012, 10:39 am
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Thanks to all that replied.
I haven't deserted the thread, I'm still waiting patiently, you're not kidding when you say things take ages to get done in Qatar!!!!

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Scottie I know it's a bit of topic but what degree have you acquired in university , Also what course at uni would land me a decent job in UK and later on Middle east. I really want to follow what you are doing so help a young learner out thank you.
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Old Sep 12th 2012, 8:15 am
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Sorry for late reply Harry.
I have an hons degree in IT, not that it's been of much use to me!!
I work in Document Management, but to be honest I'm probably the worst person to ask about this stuff, especially since I'm not yet working in the ME.
There are others on this forum much better qualified to answer your questions, and I'd recommend starting a new thread which should get you better replies.
Best of luck m8.

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Edit: Sorry, just noticed you have started another thread.

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