Job Hunting Tips Please Help!
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"welcome to the middle east, **** you, give me your money"
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Thanks to all that have given any genuine help. Im sure it's not all sunshine and ice cream but at least in the UAE you know where you stand.
Didn't want to write too in depth about myself as just wanted some general help if it was available.
Didn't want to write too in depth about myself as just wanted some general help if it was available.
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Then;
Network
Find target companies - Link with them on Linkedin and network
Network some more
Gulftalent
Network more
Monstergulf
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Naukri Gulf
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Careerstructure
Network
(Kudos to Bahtat for this list)
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Thanks Scamp. Most useful post.
My description is vague. I am a Company Director of a credit management and debt recovery business. Have been Marketing Director of a credit management related association and Head of Marketing, Marketing Exec and Assistant for large blue chip legs.
Sometimes you look and just can't find. So thanks for your help!
My description is vague. I am a Company Director of a credit management and debt recovery business. Have been Marketing Director of a credit management related association and Head of Marketing, Marketing Exec and Assistant for large blue chip legs.
Sometimes you look and just can't find. So thanks for your help!
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Thanks Scamp. Most useful post.
My description is vague. I am a Company Director of a credit management and debt recovery business. Have been Marketing Director of a credit management related association and Head of Marketing, Marketing Exec and Assistant for large blue chip legs.
Sometimes you look and just can't find. So thanks for your help!
My description is vague. I am a Company Director of a credit management and debt recovery business. Have been Marketing Director of a credit management related association and Head of Marketing, Marketing Exec and Assistant for large blue chip legs.
Sometimes you look and just can't find. So thanks for your help!
Wow, when i was that age I was still sniffing my fingers.
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Hi Minnie,
Ignore the men- they are generally a bunch of miserable bastards at the mo. I know some people get recruited from overseas, however in my personal experience out here, getting your foot in the door which is through knowing people is the best approach. The majority of people (in my experience)that are interested in moving out here end up jumping ship before they move out. I would much rather recruit from within the ME than bring people over purely because they know what they are getting themselves into. I have recruited for particularly niche roles from abroad though, however that involved head hunters and looking for very specific people etc. Would I look at a CV that landed on my desk from someone in the UK interested in moving out. Unless they were absolutely the dogs bollox no I wouldn't as chances are you won't actually make it out here. So, I would recommend finding some people you may be able to network through out here, ie a friend of a friend- (everyone knows someone out here) and put the word out through word of mouth, or take the bull by the horns and come out for a few months and meet as many people as possible and put the word out - however it takes 3 months to even get the ball rolling out here by the time your CV gets to the right person etc so don't expect this to be a quick procedure.
Does your husband to be have a in demand job role? as at least if you could get him placed you could then come on the back of him and wait out the recruitment process but at least you'd be out here.
As we come into Ramadanadingdong time not much will happen anyway, so I would say Sept/Oct would be the best time to start looking as everything goes to shit over the summer.
Good luck
KC
Ignore the men- they are generally a bunch of miserable bastards at the mo. I know some people get recruited from overseas, however in my personal experience out here, getting your foot in the door which is through knowing people is the best approach. The majority of people (in my experience)that are interested in moving out here end up jumping ship before they move out. I would much rather recruit from within the ME than bring people over purely because they know what they are getting themselves into. I have recruited for particularly niche roles from abroad though, however that involved head hunters and looking for very specific people etc. Would I look at a CV that landed on my desk from someone in the UK interested in moving out. Unless they were absolutely the dogs bollox no I wouldn't as chances are you won't actually make it out here. So, I would recommend finding some people you may be able to network through out here, ie a friend of a friend- (everyone knows someone out here) and put the word out through word of mouth, or take the bull by the horns and come out for a few months and meet as many people as possible and put the word out - however it takes 3 months to even get the ball rolling out here by the time your CV gets to the right person etc so don't expect this to be a quick procedure.
Does your husband to be have a in demand job role? as at least if you could get him placed you could then come on the back of him and wait out the recruitment process but at least you'd be out here.
As we come into Ramadanadingdong time not much will happen anyway, so I would say Sept/Oct would be the best time to start looking as everything goes to shit over the summer.
Good luck
KC
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Hi KC
Thanks for your help. Great to get the info first hand.
My fiancé has a great business skill -set (he's my business partner) however doesn't have a degree which seems to be of importance over there.
We do have the option for him to come and stay out there for longer periods and network for us both as his sister lives there but I am a little more limited due to the business we have here.
I completely understand if you don't have the time but wonder if there's anyway you could give some CV feedback if I sent it to you? When you don't seem to get a response in an international market it is difficult to understand what it is that isn't working.
Best
Minnie16
Thanks for your help. Great to get the info first hand.
My fiancé has a great business skill -set (he's my business partner) however doesn't have a degree which seems to be of importance over there.
We do have the option for him to come and stay out there for longer periods and network for us both as his sister lives there but I am a little more limited due to the business we have here.
I completely understand if you don't have the time but wonder if there's anyway you could give some CV feedback if I sent it to you? When you don't seem to get a response in an international market it is difficult to understand what it is that isn't working.
Best
Minnie16
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Hi KC
Thanks for your help. Great to get the info first hand.
My fiancé has a great business skill -set (he's my business partner) however doesn't have a degree which seems to be of importance over there.
We do have the option for him to come and stay out there for longer periods and network for us both as his sister lives there but I am a little more limited due to the business we have here.
I completely understand if you don't have the time but wonder if there's anyway you could give some CV feedback if I sent it to you? When you don't seem to get a response in an international market it is difficult to understand what it is that isn't working.
Best
Minnie16
Thanks for your help. Great to get the info first hand.
My fiancé has a great business skill -set (he's my business partner) however doesn't have a degree which seems to be of importance over there.
We do have the option for him to come and stay out there for longer periods and network for us both as his sister lives there but I am a little more limited due to the business we have here.
I completely understand if you don't have the time but wonder if there's anyway you could give some CV feedback if I sent it to you? When you don't seem to get a response in an international market it is difficult to understand what it is that isn't working.
Best
Minnie16
CVs here are inflated beyond belief and I've seen 26 year old investment bankers with titles of 'Managing Director - Head of Investment Banking' etc. In the UK we would call these people analysts or the head of photocopying. It's simply title inflation - and thus is discredited by anyone with half a brain. I'm not saying this is what you have done, but it's the box you will be put in. What counts is years under your belt and something tangible as an outcome.
The typical 26 year old Brit with 'business acumen' ends up in real estate, recruitment or flogging pension products to suckers. Unfortunately you fit into that profile even if you are better than that.
If you are currently running your own shop then try and do something similar over here. There maybe a credit control outsourcing market here - I have no idea. Although from what I have seen these roles are staffed by Indians working for peanuts - maybe there are some chief jobs available. I would probably try and go down this road.
So... my advice, come here again and without the holiday tints on and have a serious look around. Sitting in the UK and firing the CV at companies isn't going to work. To give you an example, a typical job here receives 400+ applications, of which maybe 1 or 2 are good enough to get called in for interview - we regularly go through this process and don't make an offer and find someone via the network.
Last edited by Millhouse; May 29th 2014 at 4:44 am.
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Does 'director' mean anything now? There is a bloke at my husband's place who is a 'director' of a dept consisting solely of himself.