How good a company to work for?
Feb 17th 2013, 8:03 pm
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Cheers DD,
Yeah, that is my main concern and why it's so important to get into the best compound I can.
She's a housewife in the UK anyway, so hopefully if she can make some friends then it shoudn't be too bad an experience!
Out of interest DD, what do you do, if you don't mind me asking?
David
Yeah, that is my main concern and why it's so important to get into the best compound I can.
She's a housewife in the UK anyway, so hopefully if she can make some friends then it shoudn't be too bad an experience!
Out of interest DD, what do you do, if you don't mind me asking?
David
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Feb 17th 2013, 8:16 pm
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Cheers DD,
Yeah, that is my main concern and why it's so important to get into the best compound I can.
She's a housewife in the UK anyway, so hopefully if she can make some friends then it shoudn't be too bad an experience!
Out of interest DD, what do you do, if you don't mind me asking?
David
Yeah, that is my main concern and why it's so important to get into the best compound I can.
She's a housewife in the UK anyway, so hopefully if she can make some friends then it shoudn't be too bad an experience!
Out of interest DD, what do you do, if you don't mind me asking?
David
I am on a snr manager level in operations of a multinational working in electrical energy sector. My package is similar to yours. Ball-park of $200k all-in is what snr managers can expect in KSA. I do know guys on $400k but this is banking or very high up in the real-estate project development.
Feb 18th 2013, 6:39 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
So If I am reading this right, you are looking at £86k minus tax in the UK and now you are planning to move for £100K plus housing benefits etc.
You say most expensive city in Scotland, so Edinburgh.
To me £86K sounds like a very good wage with 17yrs experience and an OU BSc, however, only you know if that is a representative wage for you and your experience / talent or whatever. TBH I don't think if I was in your position (I.e £86K gross) I would move to KSA for only a £100k plus benefits, although maybe that is me being greedy. I think I would be looking for more than that. Admittedly the market has changed quite a bit in the last few years but when I arrived 7 years ago I wasn't a kick in the arse off doubling my UK gross salary. That is working in the construction industry (Consultant Engineer).
Up to you tho. If you think that it's a good move for you then go for it. Moving abroad certainly is an experience!
Good luck if you do decide to take the plunge.
You say most expensive city in Scotland, so Edinburgh.
To me £86K sounds like a very good wage with 17yrs experience and an OU BSc, however, only you know if that is a representative wage for you and your experience / talent or whatever. TBH I don't think if I was in your position (I.e £86K gross) I would move to KSA for only a £100k plus benefits, although maybe that is me being greedy. I think I would be looking for more than that. Admittedly the market has changed quite a bit in the last few years but when I arrived 7 years ago I wasn't a kick in the arse off doubling my UK gross salary. That is working in the construction industry (Consultant Engineer).
Up to you tho. If you think that it's a good move for you then go for it. Moving abroad certainly is an experience!
Good luck if you do decide to take the plunge.
Feb 18th 2013, 6:58 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
So If I am reading this right, you are looking at £86k minus tax in the UK and now you are planning to move for £100K plus housing benefits etc.
You say most expensive city in Scotland, so Edinburgh.
To me £86K sounds like a very good wage with 17yrs experience and an OU BSc, however, only you know if that is a representative wage for you and your experience / talent or whatever. TBH I don't think if I was in your position (I.e £86K gross) I would move to KSA for only a £100k plus benefits, although maybe that is me being greedy. I think I would be looking for more than that. Admittedly the market has changed quite a bit in the last few years but when I arrived 7 years ago I wasn't a kick in the arse off doubling my UK gross salary. That is working in the construction industry (Consultant Engineer).
Up to you tho. If you think that it's a good move for you then go for it. Moving abroad certainly is an experience!
Good luck if you do decide to take the plunge.
You say most expensive city in Scotland, so Edinburgh.
To me £86K sounds like a very good wage with 17yrs experience and an OU BSc, however, only you know if that is a representative wage for you and your experience / talent or whatever. TBH I don't think if I was in your position (I.e £86K gross) I would move to KSA for only a £100k plus benefits, although maybe that is me being greedy. I think I would be looking for more than that. Admittedly the market has changed quite a bit in the last few years but when I arrived 7 years ago I wasn't a kick in the arse off doubling my UK gross salary. That is working in the construction industry (Consultant Engineer).
Up to you tho. If you think that it's a good move for you then go for it. Moving abroad certainly is an experience!
Good luck if you do decide to take the plunge.
86k in the UK nett is 4,721 a month
Let's say the chap has a car and a mortgage to pay, call that a total of 1,400 quid.
= 3,321 a month in your pocket. (19,926 SAR roughly)
100k with house paid
Can't remember about car, but let's say that's provided too.
So, take home equivalent is 8,333 GBP per month. House and Car paid.
That is 2.5 times the disposable income.
Even if he doesn't pay a mortgage or have a car, it is still 1.76 times the income, almost double the money with no real costs.
OP - Go for it, it's a great package especially if you've got no prior international experience. You'll have 2.5 times more money at the same point of the month (rent and car paid for).
Feb 18th 2013, 7:01 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Eh?
86k in the UK nett is 4,721 a month
Let's say the chap has a car and a mortgage to pay, call that a total of 1,400 quid.
= 3,321 a month in your pocket. (19,926 SAR roughly)
100k with house paid
Can't remember about car, but let's say that's provided too.
So, take home equivalent is 8,333 GBP per month. House and Car paid.
That is 2.5 times the disposable income.
Even if he doesn't pay a mortgage or have a car, it is still 1.76 times the income, almost double the money with no real costs.
OP - Go for it, it's a great package especially if you've got no prior international experience. You'll have 2.5 times more money at the same point of the month (rent and car paid for).
86k in the UK nett is 4,721 a month
Let's say the chap has a car and a mortgage to pay, call that a total of 1,400 quid.
= 3,321 a month in your pocket. (19,926 SAR roughly)
100k with house paid
Can't remember about car, but let's say that's provided too.
So, take home equivalent is 8,333 GBP per month. House and Car paid.
That is 2.5 times the disposable income.
Even if he doesn't pay a mortgage or have a car, it is still 1.76 times the income, almost double the money with no real costs.
OP - Go for it, it's a great package especially if you've got no prior international experience. You'll have 2.5 times more money at the same point of the month (rent and car paid for).
Feb 18th 2013, 9:09 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Eh?
86k in the UK nett is 4,721 a month
Let's say the chap has a car and a mortgage to pay, call that a total of 1,400 quid.
= 3,321 a month in your pocket. (19,926 SAR roughly)
100k with house paid
Can't remember about car, but let's say that's provided too.
So, take home equivalent is 8,333 GBP per month. House and Car paid.
That is 2.5 times the disposable income.
Even if he doesn't pay a mortgage or have a car, it is still 1.76 times the income, almost double the money with no real costs.
OP - Go for it, it's a great package especially if you've got no prior international experience. You'll have 2.5 times more money at the same point of the month (rent and car paid for).
86k in the UK nett is 4,721 a month
Let's say the chap has a car and a mortgage to pay, call that a total of 1,400 quid.
= 3,321 a month in your pocket. (19,926 SAR roughly)
100k with house paid
Can't remember about car, but let's say that's provided too.
So, take home equivalent is 8,333 GBP per month. House and Car paid.
That is 2.5 times the disposable income.
Even if he doesn't pay a mortgage or have a car, it is still 1.76 times the income, almost double the money with no real costs.
OP - Go for it, it's a great package especially if you've got no prior international experience. You'll have 2.5 times more money at the same point of the month (rent and car paid for).
Feb 18th 2013, 9:25 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
You'll at least get 20% on the total package .
Feb 18th 2013, 9:38 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
It's an employers market as you well know but i still see the reasoning for an uplift .
It's not a war zone but it's a pure shit hole and life can be extremely difficult at the best of times . If employers can't recognise that then maybe candidates should give them a wide birth ?
Knowing your worth is a tool that many people can't seem to get right .
It's not a war zone but it's a pure shit hole and life can be extremely difficult at the best of times . If employers can't recognise that then maybe candidates should give them a wide birth ?
Knowing your worth is a tool that many people can't seem to get right .
Feb 18th 2013, 9:43 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
It's an employers market as you well know but i still see the reasoning for an uplift .
It's not a war zone but it's a pure shit hole and life can be extremely difficult at the best of times . If employers can't recognise that then maybe candidates should give them a wide birth ?
Knowing your worth is a tool that many people can't seem to get right .
It's not a war zone but it's a pure shit hole and life can be extremely difficult at the best of times . If employers can't recognise that then maybe candidates should give them a wide birth ?
Knowing your worth is a tool that many people can't seem to get right .
Feb 18th 2013, 9:52 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Feb 18th 2013, 10:03 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
My main point still stands on that there should be an uplift on Saudi packages as it can be a very difficult place to operate
To work in Saudi you need to have a certain resilience that others maybe haven't endured . That in itself is worth the uplift .
Feb 18th 2013, 10:06 am
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Re: How good a company to work for?
It's an employers market as you well know but i still see the reasoning for an uplift .
It's not a war zone but it's a pure shit hole and life can be extremely difficult at the best of times . If employers can't recognise that then maybe candidates should give them a wide birth ?
Knowing your worth is a tool that many people can't seem to get right .
It's not a war zone but it's a pure shit hole and life can be extremely difficult at the best of times . If employers can't recognise that then maybe candidates should give them a wide birth ?
Knowing your worth is a tool that many people can't seem to get right .
I agree completely. Many of the businesses now don't want to pay good salaries / packages. The problem is, that good people aren't the ones desperate and they inevitably try to get the good people for the average candidate's salary.
Trust me, it's a ****ing nightmare trying to get good people to change jobs, let alone telling them the offer is x,000 lower than they want / had.