How good a company to work for?
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Well, offer is in.
I would really appreciate anyone’s opinions.
My UK gross salary plus bonus have been matched, but not my 20% pension contribution by UK company.
However, on top there is a 40% uplift to cover extended work week and hardship.
So overall, I get a further 20% increase from my UK salary and of course all tax free.
48 hour working week (5 days)
Furnished apartment in western style compound is covered plus utilities (excl overseas tel calls and Internet). Would prefer a villa with garden!
Company car provided (pay for petrol for private use)
Economy airfare for me and dependents there and back plus one return economy fare to uk or equiv
Goods shipment 500Ibs per adult air freight or equivalent cost by surface
$4000 paid to relocate home after assignment finished
Education paid, but we have no kids
8 paid local hols
30 calendar days hols (after completed assignment period of 12 mnths)?? Don’t know if this incudes weekends?
Free health insurance policy (Don't know if just for me or spouse as well)
Severance award of half months pay for first five years, than one months pay for subsequent years
That’s about it, what do you reckon?
TIA
David
I would really appreciate anyone’s opinions.
My UK gross salary plus bonus have been matched, but not my 20% pension contribution by UK company.
However, on top there is a 40% uplift to cover extended work week and hardship.
So overall, I get a further 20% increase from my UK salary and of course all tax free.
48 hour working week (5 days)
Furnished apartment in western style compound is covered plus utilities (excl overseas tel calls and Internet). Would prefer a villa with garden!
Company car provided (pay for petrol for private use)
Economy airfare for me and dependents there and back plus one return economy fare to uk or equiv
Goods shipment 500Ibs per adult air freight or equivalent cost by surface
$4000 paid to relocate home after assignment finished
Education paid, but we have no kids
8 paid local hols
30 calendar days hols (after completed assignment period of 12 mnths)?? Don’t know if this incudes weekends?
Free health insurance policy (Don't know if just for me or spouse as well)
Severance award of half months pay for first five years, than one months pay for subsequent years
That’s about it, what do you reckon?
TIA
David
Last edited by david999; Feb 12th 2013 at 12:26 pm.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Anyone???
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Well, offer is in.
I would really appreciate anyone’s opinions.
My UK gross salary plus bonus have been matched, but not my 20% pension contribution by UK company.
However, on top there is a 40% uplift to cover extended work week and hardship.
So overall, I get a further 20% increase from my UK salary and of course all tax free.
I would really appreciate anyone’s opinions.
My UK gross salary plus bonus have been matched, but not my 20% pension contribution by UK company.
However, on top there is a 40% uplift to cover extended work week and hardship.
So overall, I get a further 20% increase from my UK salary and of course all tax free.
Standard. 9.5 hours a day is standard here as it includes 3 prayer times (which you will work through) and a lunch break.
Find out which car. Driving here is crap and you want the biggest / safest piece of metal around.
If you happen to get kids and stay for years, find out what they are paying and what it buys. It is on a long finger but it may mean something at some stage. Also, ask if you can waive this and boost your basic because you are losing out. Long shot and it is unlikely to happen but you may win. You never know.
By law.
Not bad but it all depends on the basic amount and what you'll be able to save.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Thanks for that detailed answer DD.
Regards
David
Regards
David
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Ditto on the actual amount. Why don't you just spit it out and tell us your experience and what they are offering you? Then people can say if it is a good deal or not. As we don't know if you were on a good deal before or where you are from in the UK and therefore how much you were getting paid. The same job in Central London pays very different to that in say..... Leeds.....
A 20% uplift of FA is still FA.
A 20% uplift of FA is still FA.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Laws dating back 1500 years
The worst drivers in the world, bar non
No Pork
Everything closing 5 times a day to pray
The most boring place on earth
I could list more................Its a hole.
But good luck, you can fly out every weekend to other places in the GCC, but make sure you factor £500 a weekend in to escape.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
You started to answer your own question, add to it :-
Laws dating back 1500 years
The worst drivers in the world, bar non
No Pork
Everything closing 5 times a day to pray
The most boring place on earth
I could list more................Its a hole.
But good luck, you can fly out every weekend to other places in the GCC, but make sure you factor £500 a weekend in to escape.
Laws dating back 1500 years
The worst drivers in the world, bar non
No Pork
Everything closing 5 times a day to pray
The most boring place on earth
I could list more................Its a hole.
But good luck, you can fly out every weekend to other places in the GCC, but make sure you factor £500 a weekend in to escape.
The laws are made up as you go along around ME, there is seldom a predefined outcome. It depends how the judge feels on the day and whom you pissed off.
I can't find any spare time in my weekends. Social life on the compound is frantic. This is BBQ season and each w/e we have someone coming over or going to someone. We go to the beach. Granted I have kids so lots of it is driven by kids birthdays and meeting other parents.
Traffic is mad but you get used to it. Manage your schedule around prayer times but this is really a big drawback.
All else are inconveniences and frankly speaking I do not command this income say in UAE due to competition so overall it sort of balances out.
The biggest issue is incompetence and laziness at workplace. This is impossible to manage in this country and if you think UAE, Qatar or Bahrain are bad, you'd have to see this. This is the only thing that is eating my nerves as the management abroad expect results from this highly paid western guy and many have no appreciation how bad things really are here with all red tape and incompetence.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
In any case, I would only move to UAE if offered the same income, not on a smaller income as I do not see the inconveniences of KSA bad enough to justify 20% or so drop in income.
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I can't find any spare time in my weekends. Social life on the compound is frantic. This is BBQ season and each w/e we have someone coming over or going to someone. We go to the beach. Granted I have kids so lots of it is driven by kids birthdays and meeting other parents.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Companies have the attitude of: "Oh, you're not working? We'll offer you Dubai money for Jeddah, interested? No? OK, we'll find someone who is"
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Re: How good a company to work for?
For a western expat, Saudi is NOT the place to come for liver healing.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
Perhaps this is the case in construction. I am not seeing this in energy business but I could be wrong.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
OK guys, here it is.
My total package in UK is 86k gross.
I stay in the most expensive city in Scotland working in a senior mngt position.
My highest qualification is a B.Sc (Hons) degree through the OU and I have 17 years experience.
I've been offered 100k with housing paid and also car provided.
Aim would be to save minimum 5k per month for the two of us, does this sound feasible?
All in all, I think this is a pretty reasonable offer.
What do you reckon?
TIA
David
My total package in UK is 86k gross.
I stay in the most expensive city in Scotland working in a senior mngt position.
My highest qualification is a B.Sc (Hons) degree through the OU and I have 17 years experience.
I've been offered 100k with housing paid and also car provided.
Aim would be to save minimum 5k per month for the two of us, does this sound feasible?
All in all, I think this is a pretty reasonable offer.
What do you reckon?
TIA
David
Last edited by david999; Feb 17th 2013 at 7:31 pm.
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Re: How good a company to work for?
OK guys, here it is.
My total package in UK is 86k gross.
I stay in the most expensive city in Scotland working in a senior mngt position.
My highest qualification is a B.Sc (Hons) degree through the OU and I have 17 years experience.
I've been offered 100k with housing paid and also car provided.
Aim would be to save minimum 5k per month for the two of us, does this sound feasible?
All in all, I think this is a pretty reasonable offer.
What do you reckon?
TIA
David
My total package in UK is 86k gross.
I stay in the most expensive city in Scotland working in a senior mngt position.
My highest qualification is a B.Sc (Hons) degree through the OU and I have 17 years experience.
I've been offered 100k with housing paid and also car provided.
Aim would be to save minimum 5k per month for the two of us, does this sound feasible?
All in all, I think this is a pretty reasonable offer.
What do you reckon?
TIA
David
The only thing you should consider is your wife and what she's gonna be doing all the time. A good compound with good crowd and no issues. Failing that, it is going to be misery for her 8am-8pm while you're at work. And you will work, buddy. That's why they pay us big bucks over here.