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Hi everyone,
I'm about to be offered a senior transport economist job in one of Dubai's government agencies. Currently, my typical UK income is £120K/year as a freelance consultant, I have 20+ year experience in my field, 2 masters and a PhD from top universities, and I'm perfectly trilingual (including Arabic). The salary package offered in Dubai is 50k AED per month, all inclusive expect for medical insurance for me and the family. My wife is a lawyer but she will mostly stay at home in Dubai (say for a year or two), we have a daughter 2 years old and expecting another child next Feb. I've been in Dubai several times, both for work and holidays, but don't know what is worth in terms of family and professional life.
Will appreciate your feedback on whether it make sense, salary-wise, to make a move?
Many thanks in advance
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Hi everyone,
I'm about to be offered a senior transport economist job in one of Dubai's government agencies. Currently, my typical UK income is £120K/year as a freelance consultant, I have 20+ year experience in my field, 2 masters and a PhD from top universities, and I'm perfectly trilingual (including Arabic). The salary package offered in Dubai is 50k AED per month, all inclusive expect for medical insurance for me and the family. My wife is a lawyer but she will mostly stay at home in Dubai (say for a year or two), we have a daughter 2 years old and expecting another child next Feb. I've been in Dubai several times, both for work and holidays, but don't know what is worth in terms of family and professional life.
Will appreciate your feedback on whether it make sense, salary-wise, to make a move?
Many thanks in advance
I can't comment on the salary... but I think the quality of life 120k buys you in the UK is probably about the same as 50k/month all in will buy you here...maybe it'll be less, maybe it'll be the same. It's not a no brainer in my opinion.

If you are prudent you could probably save a bit under half of it... maybe.

edit... but if the misses can get back to practice, you'd be rolling in the folding stuff.

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actually, I don't think it will buy you the quality of life that you could buy in the UK, but here's a few things to consider of both places...
* weather
* commuting distance
* security of income
* childcare
* nursery / schooling costs

These aren't factored into the money equation, and they are only things you can decide on
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actually, I don't think it will buy you the quality of life that you could buy in the UK,
You are right. I was 50/50 and had edited my response making it more upbeat.

It's not a big uplift (unless Mrs KB can work) - in which case you need to do it for life style changes...
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Sounds like your salary will be about the same as UK then except for the tax! IMO I wouldn't come on that basis but it depends on your circumstances. The cost of living here is high when you take into account school fees, flights home, licences for this and that etc so soon eats up any savings in tax.
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Thank you very much folks,
I think that based on the replies received so far, it would be wise to negotiate the package based on my salary history and the fact they're very keen to have me on board. Would 60-65 AED/month be appropriate?
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In your position, I'd aim for 40k AED per month as basic salary, and then add on top what you think you need for car, housing, education, flights home, insurance, medical, mob, demob etc.

However... given it is a government position, and the title does not seem to reflect the level of your experience, I suspect that your offer may be the max that is possible within the constraints of the job title. You may not get what you ask for, but you should always try (if you're willing to walk away or have the offer removed).

Then it comes back to my first post about lifestyle.
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Thanks for the feedback. Ref. job title, my understanding is that a senior transport specialist/economist is a management position at the partner/director level, e.g. in the world bank where I used to work this equates a USD160K/year plus benefits and requires at least 15+ years experience and a Masters or PhD, so thought this position is similar!!
As for the package, I won't go for anything less than my current UK income or possibly if not more, yes the job is secure and permanent while life in the UK is getting worse quality-wise (at least from my perspective), but one should never undersell himself!!!thanks folks for the feedback, will get back with more info once we start the salary negotiation.
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titles mean nothing here - it could mean all that you say, or it could mean a bloke with 10 years experience in a national company working spreadsheets.

From what i have seen, "senior" reports to "team leader" who reports to "manager" who reports to "director" who reports to "vice president" who reports to "executive vice president" who reports to "deputy CEO" (the real leader) who reports to "CEO".

Your situation may be very different, and as this could well be important to you, along with your salary negotiations I would suggest you check out the potential reporting structure.
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Originally Posted by kb1971
Hi everyone,
I'm about to be offered a senior transport economist job in one of Dubai's government agencies. Currently, my typical UK income is £120K/year as a freelance consultant, I have 20+ year experience in my field, 2 masters and a PhD from top universities, and I'm perfectly trilingual (including Arabic). The salary package offered in Dubai is 50k AED per month, all inclusive expect for medical insurance for me and the family. My wife is a lawyer but she will mostly stay at home in Dubai (say for a year or two), we have a daughter 2 years old and expecting another child next Feb. I've been in Dubai several times, both for work and holidays, but don't know what is worth in terms of family and professional life.
Will appreciate your feedback on whether it make sense, salary-wise, to make a move?
Many thanks in advance
Do you mean that you get 50k a month plus your housing/school fees etc paid? or that you have to pay for everything from the 50k?
If it is the former then you are fine, but if it is the latter then you definitely want more money.School fees are expensive here, especially nursery schools.
Also, your employer needs to include medical insurance for you and your family.
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negotiate the salary it cant hurt
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Not necessarily true. I once got a job (and a damned good one) because their first choice wanted to negotiate and they didn't want to. He didn't even get the option to try: once he replied saying that he wanted to negotiate, that was end of story for him.
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What does a 'Senior Transport Economist' actually do?
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Not necessarily true. I once got a job (and a damned good one) because their first choice wanted to negotiate and they didn't want to. He didn't even get the option to try: once he replied saying that he wanted to negotiate, that was end of story for him.
You were second choice?

Commendable that you took it. Lots of people get all shitty when they know that.
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You were second choice?

Commendable that you took it. Lots of people get all shitty when they know that.
Actually not even that. There was a list of about 5. The first choice negotiated himself out of the equation, and the second said he wanted to negotiate but by that time the (Japanese) employer had had enough of candidates who considered that negotiation was on the cards (daft since the job itself was partly to negotiate contracts). My name came up when the employing manager said, in exasperation, "Ok, so who's NOT going to try to negotiate?" The senior Brit involved blurted out (his words) my name, and before he could retract it the point of no return had passed.

Of course I was unaware of that when I accepted their (very generous at my age then) offer, but said Brit pointedly told me on my first day. And was frosty for the first year. But I stayed for over 6 years, had a retainer afterwards for several years, then worked for them again. Said Brit and I are now bosom buddies.

Not first choice? So what?
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