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Old Jan 4th 2012, 5:48 pm
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The online status updates are not very accurate. As Ian mentioned there are posters that are now US Citizens and there case status is still pending! My lawyer had put in a service request after 7 months. He was told that there is nothing wrong with my case and that the online processing time of 6 months is not accurate. As I mentioned my husbands case took 9 months. There were no issues. There is no exact time or date when you will receive your card. You are still in status.
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Originally Posted by jmood
So the agent received wrong info??? She told me they are currently working on applications received April 4th. Hmmmm....

Any thoughts anyone?
The "agents", who are just contract workers, don't always know what's going on, and often give inaccurate information.

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Originally Posted by jmood
So the agent received wrong info??? She told me they are currently working on applications received April 4th. Hmmmm....

Any thoughts anyone?
Please don't go by what the agent says. There is a reason that these lines are called Mis information lines!
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As Rene mentioned these agents are just contract workers. They do not work for USCIS directly.
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I understand.
But they don't "make-up" what they say. The info must be "provided" to them by the USCIS. Otherwise, how would the agent get the "April 4th" info?
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Originally Posted by jmood
I understand.
But they don't "make-up" what they say. The info must be "provided" to them by the USCIS. Otherwise, how would the agent get the "April 4th" info?
They can and do sometimes "make up" stuff. Their word is definitely not to be trusted. They could be looking at a totally different thing, even, and tell you April 4, without even realizing that's not YOUR case. Etc.

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Originally Posted by jmood
But they don't "make-up" what they say.
Yes, they do. Why? Because they can, and because nothing bad will ever happen to them if they do!


The info must be "provided" to them by the USCIS.
Not necessarily, no.


Otherwise, how would the agent get the "April 4th" info?
Last year, there were 223,428 phone calls to the 1-800 number looking for the same sort of information you're after.

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I hear what you all are saying - and OK, I'm not writing this for my own cause.

But - it doesn't make sense. If they ARE making things up, it means the service is good for nothing and surely people have complained before and surely the management knows. Why would they let this continue like it is then? If this is true, the "service" constitutes a sham. No?
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Originally Posted by jmood
If they ARE making things up, it means the service is good for nothing
Exactly.

and surely people have complained before and surely the management knows.
People have probably complained before, yes...there is a USCIS Omnibudsman you can write to. Whether "management" knows or cares, I have no idea. The people who answer the initial calls don't work for USCIS, they are contract workers who are given a script that only deals with the most basic of questions, and given a computer which shows them the same thing you see on your home computer.

Why would they let this continue like it is then?
Because they can, and as a goverment agency, they are not held responsible for any wrong advice they hand out, so there's no incentive to give correct advice.

If this is true, the "service" constitutes a sham. No?
Yes. It's not really a service. Sometimes they get an answer right, more often they get it wrong.

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Even if they aren't making things up, many people are of the opinion that the service is good for nothing. That's why we commonly refer to it as the Mis-information Line, or the National Customer Dis-service Center, and we've been calling it that ever since its inception.
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If they ARE making things up, it means the service is good for nothing and surely people have complained before and surely the management knows. Why would they let this continue like it is then?
Yes.
Originally Posted by jmood
If this is true, the "service" constitutes a sham. No?

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Old Jan 4th 2012, 10:36 pm
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I don't understand how, as a goverment agency, they are not held responsible for any wrong advice they hand out.
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Originally Posted by jmood
I don't understand how, as a goverment agency, they are not held responsible for any wrong advice they hand out.
The US Supreme Court says they aren't responsible. End of story.

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I don't understand how, as a goverment agency, they are not held responsible for any wrong advice they hand out.
Mr. Folinsky on here has posted about it several times. Something about the Supreme Court ruling that goverment agencies are exempt from being held responsible if a person acts on the advice given by that agency, and that advice was incorrect. Something like that.

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USICE probably asks for bids to perform the service and goes with the lowest bidder. The same thing occurred for airport security prior to 9/11.
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Amazing. So why do taxpayers (us) allow this kind of sham to be funded with our money?
Rhetorical question maybe..
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