why proof with I-751?
May 12th 2004, 9:04 am
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why proof with I-751?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
May 12th 2004, 9:08 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by bluetee
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
May 12th 2004, 9:18 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
bt,
Because... that's what Congress wrote into the law.
Folinskyinla ocassionally posts some tidbits about immigration legislation over the years that, while not answering many questions as to the logic of things, demonstrate how the patchwork quilt of immigration law came to be such a beast.
Regards, JEff
Because... that's what Congress wrote into the law.
Folinskyinla ocassionally posts some tidbits about immigration legislation over the years that, while not answering many questions as to the logic of things, demonstrate how the patchwork quilt of immigration law came to be such a beast.
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by bluetee
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
May 12th 2004, 9:20 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by bluetee
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Because they work with the goverment!, They are not happy until they are buried with paperwork
Good Luck!!
May 12th 2004, 10:07 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
.....They are not happy until they are buried with paperwork
.....They are not happy until they are buried with paperwork
May 12th 2004, 10:19 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by bluetee
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Simply because they are interested in the "continuing" validity of your marriage. Submit evidence pertaining primarily from the date after the AOS approval to the time of filing of the I-751. If you read the instructions on the I-751 there are instructions on how to file IF you are no longer married. In that case there is only one signature on the I-751, the resident's signature. In the case of petitioning for removal based on a continuing valid marriage, there are two signatures --- the US Citizen's and the resident's.
It is not as others have stated because the government likes paperwork but for a very real and valid reason.
Rete
May 12th 2004, 11:05 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by bluetee
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Because they work closely with government and therefore know that the odds on something that was said two years ago still holding water are pretty damn slim ......... unfortunately we are being judged by their standards
May 12th 2004, 11:43 am
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Rete
It is not as others have stated because the government likes paperwork but for a very real and valid reason.
Rete
It is not as others have stated because the government likes paperwork but for a very real and valid reason.
Rete
Doh!!
I was kidding!!!
May 12th 2004, 12:19 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
Doh!!
I was kidding!!!
Doh!!
I was kidding!!!
I know ;-)
May 12th 2004, 12:22 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Hypertweeky
Doh!!
I was kidding!!!
Doh!!
I was kidding!!!
oh no you weren't hehehehehe
May 12th 2004, 12:40 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by bluetee
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
Why do you have to again prove the validity of your marriage when you file the I-751? If you showed that your marriage was bona fide when you got your conditional green card, you are still married two years later, why do they think it would have somehow become fraudulent? especially since you can get a waiver if you're separated as long as you prove you entered into it in good faith? If you already showed it, why do you have to show it again?
I don't like the law either. But, some people have been quite creative is creating packets of documents -- and some people are damn good actors.
Also, with the introduction of the two year conditional requirement, there was a concomitant effect of LOWERING the amount of evidence to show a valid marriage to get the original visa. Remember that if the processing times were more reasonable, visas/adjustments would be granted to newleyweds who did not yet have time to produce evidence of "bona fides."
Also, do NOT submit evidence that PRE-dates the admission to residence.
May 12th 2004, 4:55 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:
I don't like the law either. But, some people have been quite creative is creating packets of documents -- and some people are damn good actors.
Also, with the introduction of the two year conditional requirement, there was a concomitant effect of LOWERING the amount of evidence to show a valid marriage to get the original visa. Remember that if the processing times were more reasonable, visas/adjustments would be granted to newleyweds who did not yet have time to produce evidence of "bona fides."
Also, do NOT submit evidence that PRE-dates the admission to residence.
Hi:
I don't like the law either. But, some people have been quite creative is creating packets of documents -- and some people are damn good actors.
Also, with the introduction of the two year conditional requirement, there was a concomitant effect of LOWERING the amount of evidence to show a valid marriage to get the original visa. Remember that if the processing times were more reasonable, visas/adjustments would be granted to newleyweds who did not yet have time to produce evidence of "bona fides."
Also, do NOT submit evidence that PRE-dates the admission to residence.
Rene
May 12th 2004, 5:01 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Noorah101
I'm confused about something (surprise, surprise! lol). How many AOS interviews are there? It seems to me there are two...one shortly after you turn in the AOS application, to receive the conditional card, and a second one down the road where you show proof of a bona-fide marriage and get the conditions lifted. Am I right? Or is there only the one to get the conditions lifted?
Rene
I'm confused about something (surprise, surprise! lol). How many AOS interviews are there? It seems to me there are two...one shortly after you turn in the AOS application, to receive the conditional card, and a second one down the road where you show proof of a bona-fide marriage and get the conditions lifted. Am I right? Or is there only the one to get the conditions lifted?
Rene
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May 12th 2004, 5:05 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by Noorah101
I'm confused about something (surprise, surprise! lol). How many AOS interviews are there? It seems to me there are two...one shortly after you turn in the AOS application, to receive the conditional card, and a second one down the road where you show proof of a bona-fide marriage and get the conditions lifted. Am I right? Or is there only the one to get the conditions lifted?
Rene
I'm confused about something (surprise, surprise! lol). How many AOS interviews are there? It seems to me there are two...one shortly after you turn in the AOS application, to receive the conditional card, and a second one down the road where you show proof of a bona-fide marriage and get the conditions lifted. Am I right? Or is there only the one to get the conditions lifted?
Rene
A percentage of the the removal of conditions applicants can get a 2nd interview ..but most it seems do not...
May 12th 2004, 5:07 pm
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Re: why proof with I-751?
Originally posted by ray6
You will get the first one for the normal AOS interview (but I believed than can be waived but rarel)
A percentage of the the removal of conditions applicants can get a 2nd interview ..but most it seems do not...
You will get the first one for the normal AOS interview (but I believed than can be waived but rarel)
A percentage of the the removal of conditions applicants can get a 2nd interview ..but most it seems do not...
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