using married name - when to start?
#16
Re: using married name - when to start?
hcj,
I often wonder if this question makes any sense when I read these threads about name change. As you say, is there such a thing?
There is no reason why people can't use more than one name if they wish, for lawful purposes, and many do. They must be consistent about which name they use for certain purposes, for instance they should file their tax return using the same name that is associated with their SS#.
Regards, JEff
I often wonder if this question makes any sense when I read these threads about name change. As you say, is there such a thing?
There is no reason why people can't use more than one name if they wish, for lawful purposes, and many do. They must be consistent about which name they use for certain purposes, for instance they should file their tax return using the same name that is associated with their SS#.
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by hcj1440
... I wonder what is considered the legal point when your name changes. If there even is such a thing.
... I wonder what is considered the legal point when your name changes. If there even is such a thing.
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by jeffreyhy
hcj,
I often wonder if this question makes any sense when I read these threads about name change. As you say, is there such a thing?
There is no reason why people can't use more than one name if they wish, for lawful purposes, and many do. They must be consistent about which name they use for certain purposes, for instance they should file their tax return using the same name that is associated with their SS#.
Regards, JEff
hcj,
I often wonder if this question makes any sense when I read these threads about name change. As you say, is there such a thing?
There is no reason why people can't use more than one name if they wish, for lawful purposes, and many do. They must be consistent about which name they use for certain purposes, for instance they should file their tax return using the same name that is associated with their SS#.
Regards, JEff
I have often pondered this question. (I'm a woman btw.) When I was growing up, my best friend's mom was a physician. She went by Dr. [Maiden name] at work, but we all called her Mrs. [husband's last name] since that was her role at home. She was Mary Smith's mom, therefore she was Mrs. Smith.
I thought about not changing my name when I got married, or changing it "legally" - i.e. on social security, taxes, drivers license, bank accounts etc. - but then using my maiden name at work. After all, I had established a professional reputation on my maiden name and it would be a pain to change it. In the end I decided it would be too complicated (filling out HR forms with married name and then insisting that they make my email address and business cards my maiden name, etc. - in a bureaucratic organization this can cause a lot of headache) so I just changed my name on everything. The generation before me already stood up for women's rights, so I reaped the benefit of that and did not feel oppressed when I chose to take my husband's name.
I do recognize that people go by different names, for lawful purposes. For example, authors and actors might have a pseudonym. But I still think that no matter what you call yourself, you only have one legal name - the one you pay taxes with.
Best regards and thanks for the interesting discussion!
- H
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by hcj1440
Hi JEff
I have often pondered this question. (I'm a woman btw.) When I was growing up, my best friend's mom was a physician. She went by Dr. [Maiden name] at work, but we all called her Mrs. [husband's last name] since that was her role at home. She was Mary Smith's mom, therefore she was Mrs. Smith.
I thought about not changing my name when I got married, or changing it "legally" - i.e. on social security, taxes, drivers license, bank accounts etc. - but then using my maiden name at work. After all, I had established a professional reputation on my maiden name and it would be a pain to change it. In the end I decided it would be too complicated (filling out HR forms with married name and then insisting that they make my email address and business cards my maiden name, etc. - in a bureaucratic organization this can cause a lot of headache) so I just changed my name on everything. The generation before me already stood up for women's rights, so I reaped the benefit of that and did not feel oppressed when I chose to take my husband's name.
I do recognize that people go by different names, for lawful purposes. For example, authors and actors might have a pseudonym. But I still think that no matter what you call yourself, you only have one legal name - the one you pay taxes with.
Best regards and thanks for the interesting discussion!
- H
Hi JEff
I have often pondered this question. (I'm a woman btw.) When I was growing up, my best friend's mom was a physician. She went by Dr. [Maiden name] at work, but we all called her Mrs. [husband's last name] since that was her role at home. She was Mary Smith's mom, therefore she was Mrs. Smith.
I thought about not changing my name when I got married, or changing it "legally" - i.e. on social security, taxes, drivers license, bank accounts etc. - but then using my maiden name at work. After all, I had established a professional reputation on my maiden name and it would be a pain to change it. In the end I decided it would be too complicated (filling out HR forms with married name and then insisting that they make my email address and business cards my maiden name, etc. - in a bureaucratic organization this can cause a lot of headache) so I just changed my name on everything. The generation before me already stood up for women's rights, so I reaped the benefit of that and did not feel oppressed when I chose to take my husband's name.
I do recognize that people go by different names, for lawful purposes. For example, authors and actors might have a pseudonym. But I still think that no matter what you call yourself, you only have one legal name - the one you pay taxes with.
Best regards and thanks for the interesting discussion!
- H
I thought of doing exactly the same as you said. I've been known by one name at work here for 14 years, and my existing last name is already a difficult one. For the record, my husband's last name would be even more difficult for them to learn! lol So I'd like to eventually change my social security, driver license, credit cards to my new married name, but remain my current name for business purposes. But then, like you, I thought it might be more confusing when asked to show ID at work for some reason - why is all my ID different than the name I'm using? Also, I'm a notary, and I'm not sure I can use my current notary name if my "legal" (i.e. SSN name) is my married name. I'm still torn. I'd love to take my husband's name, since for me, that's my traditional thinking. But actually, in his culture, it's more common for married women to continue using their maiden name after marriage. The choice is mine.
Guess I can change it when the timing "feels right"
This is an interesting discussion.
Rene
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by Noorah101
For the record, my husband's last name would be even more difficult for them to learn! lol
For the record, my husband's last name would be even more difficult for them to learn! lol
Hmmm - that reminds me that it used to be fairly common for immigrants to "anglicize" their last name when they moved here. I know a French-descended family that changed from DeLoitte to Doolittle (bad change IMO!) and an Italian one that changed from Bellini to Bellina (not a big difference there if you ask me :). My own family added a vowel to ours because no one could pronounce it otherwise. So in the grand tradition of immigration - would your husband want to change his last name to something easier to pronounce? :-)
#20
Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by hcj1440
Hmmm - that reminds me that it used to be fairly common for immigrants to "anglicize" their last name when they moved here. I know a French-descended family that changed from DeLoitte to Doolittle (bad change IMO!) and an Italian one that changed from Bellini to Bellina (not a big difference there if you ask me . My own family added a vowel to ours because no one could pronounce it otherwise. So in the grand tradition of immigration - would your husband want to change his last name to something easier to pronounce? :-)
Hmmm - that reminds me that it used to be fairly common for immigrants to "anglicize" their last name when they moved here. I know a French-descended family that changed from DeLoitte to Doolittle (bad change IMO!) and an Italian one that changed from Bellini to Bellina (not a big difference there if you ask me . My own family added a vowel to ours because no one could pronounce it otherwise. So in the grand tradition of immigration - would your husband want to change his last name to something easier to pronounce? :-)
Rene
#21
Re: using married name - when to start?
LOL! I'm all for sharing a last name with your loved one - even if it takes a little planning and a few years to get there!
I had my mother's maiden name as my middle name, and I just tacked on my husband's name to the end because I couldn't stand to give up any of my names. So now I have three last names:
FirstName MothersMaidenName FathersLastName HusbandsLastName
Surprisingly, it all fit on my social security card, but it's not centered correctly. <pout>
I had my mother's maiden name as my middle name, and I just tacked on my husband's name to the end because I couldn't stand to give up any of my names. So now I have three last names:
FirstName MothersMaidenName FathersLastName HusbandsLastName
Surprisingly, it all fit on my social security card, but it's not centered correctly. <pout>
#22
Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by hcj1440
LOL! I'm all for sharing a last name with your loved one - even if it takes a little planning and a few years to get there!
I had my mother's maiden name as my middle name, and I just tacked on my husband's name to the end because I couldn't stand to give up any of my names. So now I have three last names:
FirstName MothersMaidenName FathersLastName HusbandsLastName
Surprisingly, it all fit on my social security card, but it's not centered correctly. <pout>
LOL! I'm all for sharing a last name with your loved one - even if it takes a little planning and a few years to get there!
I had my mother's maiden name as my middle name, and I just tacked on my husband's name to the end because I couldn't stand to give up any of my names. So now I have three last names:
FirstName MothersMaidenName FathersLastName HusbandsLastName
Surprisingly, it all fit on my social security card, but it's not centered correctly. <pout>
FirstName CurrentLastName HusbandsLastNamePart1
I'd like having such a unique name. We're going way OT with this, but it's fun
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by Noorah101
See nkem4ever's signature line:
Me - USC
He - Nigeria (aka JJ&ST)
K1 TSC filers
She is the USC. She will have to change her name on all those things anyway, eventually, if she chooses to use her married name. I think she was just curious as to which name to use for filing the AOS paperwork. She's not the one who will have problems with USCIS with her name later on.
Rene
See nkem4ever's signature line:
Me - USC
He - Nigeria (aka JJ&ST)
K1 TSC filers
She is the USC. She will have to change her name on all those things anyway, eventually, if she chooses to use her married name. I think she was just curious as to which name to use for filing the AOS paperwork. She's not the one who will have problems with USCIS with her name later on.
Rene
Otherwise, things are moving along slowly but surely. thanks again and continued success to all.
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Re: using married name - when to start?
hcj1440 <member19487@british_expats.com> wrote:
> For those who take a married name, I wonder what is considered the
> legal point when your name changes. If there even is such a thing.
Up until a few weeks ago, I'd have said there wasn't any such thing...
Your name is what you call yourself.
What you occasionally have trouble with is getting other people to
recognize that the name that is in their records, refers to
you...whether that agrees with what you are currently calling yourself
or was something that you previously called yourself.
--
J. Moreno
> For those who take a married name, I wonder what is considered the
> legal point when your name changes. If there even is such a thing.
Up until a few weeks ago, I'd have said there wasn't any such thing...
Your name is what you call yourself.
What you occasionally have trouble with is getting other people to
recognize that the name that is in their records, refers to
you...whether that agrees with what you are currently calling yourself
or was something that you previously called yourself.
--
J. Moreno
#25
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Originally posted by jeffreyhy
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5) The process is bloody costly because it's bloody expensive to hire the people and provide the resources to do it.
Regards, JEff
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5) The process is bloody costly because it's bloody expensive to hire the people and provide the resources to do it.
Regards, JEff
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Re: using married name - when to start?
When I went to get my marriage license I was told it was going to be $200 and we had to go to court if I wanted to change my name later and not put my new surname on the certificate, so I put it there. Social Security I believe asks for our marriage cert and so does passport agency....as far as I know the legal change of name is on your certificate....therefore, I think i'm legally an Akarsu now but nothing is changed....you have to do that on your own....I always joked with Mahir that we both should change our name to something easier....Smith....Mahir and Allison Smith....lovely.....no mispellings or mispronunciations..... :-)
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by Noorah101
I am under the impresstion that the legal point for gals like us, is when you change your name with Social Security Administration. I asked, for example, at Motor Vehicle one day while I was in there, and they said I needed to change Social Security first, and then everything else.
I was wondering if there's any time limit to do that? I wasn't planning to start my name changed until later this year.
Rene
I am under the impresstion that the legal point for gals like us, is when you change your name with Social Security Administration. I asked, for example, at Motor Vehicle one day while I was in there, and they said I needed to change Social Security first, and then everything else.
I was wondering if there's any time limit to do that? I wasn't planning to start my name changed until later this year.
Rene
I don't think there's any time limit as long as you have the necessary proof/documents required for the change.
I continue to use my maiden name professionally and I guess legally, since it's what's on my DL, passport and SS card. We have a joint bank account, credit cards, and mortgage under my married name. I was told by my employer I could not change my name on my W-2, checks, and any other work-related items (insurance, etc) unless I provided them with a copy of a new SS card with a name change. They said that (change with SSA) was when it was recorded as being legally changed for their purposes.
I think it confuses some people when I use a joint card and show them my DL with a different name, but no one has ever asked me about it.
In addition to others, one of the reasons I opted not to change my name was because of my passport. I only had it 3 years when I got married, and I didn't see any need to incur unnecessary expenses at a time when we were stretched financially and weren't sure when my DH was going to find work.
It does mean when ordering plan tix that we have to order under two names, so my ticket will match my IDs. Not a big problem though.
Dawn
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by MMA2002
When I went to get my marriage license I was told it was going to be $200 and we had to go to court if I wanted to change my name later and not put my new surname on the certificate, so I put it there. Social Security I believe asks for our marriage cert and so does passport agency....as far as I know the legal change of name is on your certificate....therefore, I think i'm legally an Akarsu now but nothing is changed....you have to do that on your own....I always joked with Mahir that we both should change our name to something easier....Smith....Mahir and Allison Smith....lovely.....no mispellings or mispronunciations..... :-)
When I went to get my marriage license I was told it was going to be $200 and we had to go to court if I wanted to change my name later and not put my new surname on the certificate, so I put it there. Social Security I believe asks for our marriage cert and so does passport agency....as far as I know the legal change of name is on your certificate....therefore, I think i'm legally an Akarsu now but nothing is changed....you have to do that on your own....I always joked with Mahir that we both should change our name to something easier....Smith....Mahir and Allison Smith....lovely.....no mispellings or mispronunciations..... :-)
I know the feeling! My husband's surname is not unusual in the UK, but here in Kentucky... We are always amused by the various spellings and pronounciations. It's almost like a game for us now--Mangle That Name!
Dawn, wondering why people just don't know basic phonic rules anymore
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by psychobabbler1
In addition to others, one of the reasons I opted not to change my name was because of my passport. I only had it 3 years when I got married, and I didn't see any need to incur unnecessary expenses at a time when we were stretched financially and weren't sure when my DH was going to find work.
It does mean when ordering plan tix that we have to order under two names, so my ticket will match my IDs. Not a big problem though.
Dawn
In addition to others, one of the reasons I opted not to change my name was because of my passport. I only had it 3 years when I got married, and I didn't see any need to incur unnecessary expenses at a time when we were stretched financially and weren't sure when my DH was going to find work.
It does mean when ordering plan tix that we have to order under two names, so my ticket will match my IDs. Not a big problem though.
Dawn
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Re: using married name - when to start?
Originally posted by hcj1440
Not sure if you're the American spouse, but I don't think I had to pay anything to get my name changed in my US passport. All they did was add in a line with my new name, and then they sent me the same passport back.
Not sure if you're the American spouse, but I don't think I had to pay anything to get my name changed in my US passport. All they did was add in a line with my new name, and then they sent me the same passport back.
Really? I was told I'd have to pay for another passport. What?
Conflicting information from a government agency?! Surely not!
;-)