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Mar 6th 2009, 3:08 am

#16

crg

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Re: US Citizens

INA 212(a)(10)(E) Former citizens who renounced citizenship to avoid taxation.-Any alien who is a former citizen of the United States who officially renounces United States citizenship and who is determined by the Attorney General to have renounced United States citizenship for the purpose of avoiding taxation by the United States is excludable.

I'm not sure what the Attorney General's criteria are though. I imagine the person must owe a lot of money in taxes or have a significant income to get their attention.

Last edited by crg; Mar 6th 2009 at 3:15 am.

Mar 6th 2009, 3:31 am

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Re: US Citizens

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Originally Posted by crg14624

... renounced United States citizenship for the purpose of avoiding taxation by the United States is excludable.

Excludable... well, that pretty much guarantees that that llbeeno will never again return to the US... even as a visitor. At times, it truly amazes me the sort of stupid things people do!

Ian

Mar 6th 2009, 3:51 am

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Re: US Citizens

To be fair the children sound like they have 2 citizenships.

And I know we can forget it, but the US is not the whole world. I have never been to Sweden for example.

Mar 6th 2009, 10:42 am

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Norri

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Re: US Citizens

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Originally Posted by llbeeno

I was a US citizen who has renounced my citizenship as of December 2008. My two sons are 3 and 5 - are they automatically US citizens? Would really appriciate if someone can help! LLBeno

How exactly did you go about doing that?

Mar 6th 2009, 2:28 pm

#20

crg

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Re: US Citizens

You go to the consulate and tell them to take your US passport and shove it.

Mar 6th 2009, 2:53 pm

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JAJ

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Re: US Citizens

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Originally Posted by Norri

How exactly did you go about doing that?

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...nship_776.html

Mar 7th 2009, 3:17 am

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Manc

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Re: US Citizens

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian-mstm

Excludable... well, that pretty much guarantees that that llbeeno will never again return to the US... even as a visitor. At times, it truly amazes me the sort of stupid things people do!

Ian

I take it to mean excludable from renouncing citizenship

not excluded from the country.

Mar 7th 2009, 4:19 am

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Norri

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Re: US Citizens

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Originally Posted by JAJ

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...nship_776.html

I didn't ask how it was possible, I asked how the OP did it.

Mar 7th 2009, 10:22 am

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ian-mstm

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Re: US Citizens

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Originally Posted by Manc

I take it to mean excludable from renouncing citizenship

I considered that, but it didn't make any sense. I think it'd be damn near impossible for the US to force you to remain a USC.

Ian

Mar 8th 2009, 5:46 am

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crg

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Re: US Citizens

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm

I considered that, but it didn't make any sense. I think it'd be damn near impossible for the US to force you to remain a USC.

Ian

I agree. It's in the 212(a) grounds of inadmissibility along with everything else that can keep someone out of the US. The 212(a) grounds only apply to aliens and not US citizens.