U.S Girlfriend
Sep 10th 2006, 12:44 pm
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On 9 Sep 2006 20:57:01 -0700, "marika" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Meryl wrote:
>> I traveled to the US several times to visit my fella, now my husband.
>oh my god
>> It was from Australia.
>> The last time I was his wife.
>> Each time I had a visa waiver. On earlier trips I said it was for a
>> holiday. The second time I said accompanying my husband to visit his
>> family for Thanksgiving.
> you got to meet "the family". is that their official name
>> We had married in Australia.
>Tell me about it...tell me all
>mk5000
>'this girl can blow anyone off the stage vocally. there are no tricks
>or smoke and lights. she can turn it on and let it go'--morris hayes
Methinks you are taking the piss.
Meryl
>Meryl wrote:
>> I traveled to the US several times to visit my fella, now my husband.
>oh my god
>> It was from Australia.
>> The last time I was his wife.
>> Each time I had a visa waiver. On earlier trips I said it was for a
>> holiday. The second time I said accompanying my husband to visit his
>> family for Thanksgiving.
> you got to meet "the family". is that their official name
>> We had married in Australia.
>Tell me about it...tell me all
>mk5000
>'this girl can blow anyone off the stage vocally. there are no tricks
>or smoke and lights. she can turn it on and let it go'--morris hayes
Methinks you are taking the piss.
Meryl
Sep 11th 2006, 4:55 am
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madeinengland wrote:
> Does anybody actually know the real reason why having a
> girlfriend/boyfriend in the U.S is such a big problem? If it's for
> safety reasons then why can't I just say to them for e.g "If I don't
> come back THEN arrest me!" Surely that makes sense right? I mean they'd
> have the address of where I'd be staying, the name of the person I'm
This would never work. CIS can't even find permanent resident and "visa
overstayer" felons who have remained in the US and have been told to
report, do you really think they are going to be able to do this? It's
far easier and cheaper to keep you out when you ask to come in rather
than to let you in and try to find you later no matter what information
you give them
> Does anybody actually know the real reason why having a
> girlfriend/boyfriend in the U.S is such a big problem? If it's for
> safety reasons then why can't I just say to them for e.g "If I don't
> come back THEN arrest me!" Surely that makes sense right? I mean they'd
> have the address of where I'd be staying, the name of the person I'm
This would never work. CIS can't even find permanent resident and "visa
overstayer" felons who have remained in the US and have been told to
report, do you really think they are going to be able to do this? It's
far easier and cheaper to keep you out when you ask to come in rather
than to let you in and try to find you later no matter what information
you give them
Sep 11th 2006, 5:28 am
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Hi, thanks for the info.
My mother runs her own business and i could work for her. (and have done in the past) Do you think this would this look good as a 'tie' to the U.K. The fact that it's family AND a job?
Also, do you think i would be pushing it if I wanted to visit my girlfriend for 4 weeks? What with working in the family I could probably get more flexibility in time off, or would the amount of time still look bad to the Immigration officer?
I was just looking at this another way. If immigration dont want me to enter the U.S based on my circumstances surely the amount of time i stay wouldn't matter? correct me if i'm wrong, its just a thought.
I would not try an entry for more that 2 weeks, make sure that you are in work at the time, have a letter from your employer saying you are required back at a given date, tel them that you applied for a B because you had been told it was the best bet not realising the VWP made you ineligible.
And keep your fingers crossed.
Some have suggested flying through Dublin as your clear Immigration there, but they seem to give people a harder time so not sure.
My mother runs her own business and i could work for her. (and have done in the past) Do you think this would this look good as a 'tie' to the U.K. The fact that it's family AND a job?
Also, do you think i would be pushing it if I wanted to visit my girlfriend for 4 weeks? What with working in the family I could probably get more flexibility in time off, or would the amount of time still look bad to the Immigration officer?
I was just looking at this another way. If immigration dont want me to enter the U.S based on my circumstances surely the amount of time i stay wouldn't matter? correct me if i'm wrong, its just a thought.
Originally Posted by Boiler
I would not try an entry for more that 2 weeks, make sure that you are in work at the time, have a letter from your employer saying you are required back at a given date, tel them that you applied for a B because you had been told it was the best bet not realising the VWP made you ineligible.
And keep your fingers crossed.
Some have suggested flying through Dublin as your clear Immigration there, but they seem to give people a harder time so not sure.
Sep 11th 2006, 6:03 am
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Re: U.S Girlfriend
Originally Posted by madeinengland
My mother runs her own business and i could work for her.
Ian
Sep 11th 2006, 10:35 am
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<Go... do it... give it a try... and see what
happens. It isn't a life and death situation and the worst that
<happens is that you'll be denied entry to the US.
In other words, what he is saying is to go ahead and throw your money in the
trashcan because you have a 1% chance of being allowed in and they will
eagerly take your $100 and apply it to the deficit.
They love to take the money and send you home in tears. Non-refundable fees
= revenue to pay inflated government salaries.
It's a big racket/game.....enjoy!
happens. It isn't a life and death situation and the worst that
<happens is that you'll be denied entry to the US.
In other words, what he is saying is to go ahead and throw your money in the
trashcan because you have a 1% chance of being allowed in and they will
eagerly take your $100 and apply it to the deficit.
They love to take the money and send you home in tears. Non-refundable fees
= revenue to pay inflated government salaries.
It's a big racket/game.....enjoy!
Sep 11th 2006, 10:51 am
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Meryl wrote:
> Why would he?
that sounds like an answer for trebek
>I was in Australia.
My help won't be that insightful...
perhaps to sample the local resources
i watched this really fantastic movie last night about commitment in
marriage called the notebook. i couldn't fall asleep after watching
it. and i cried and cried and cried. it is so sweet.
i like romance stories
mk5000
'that's just someone trying to get attention'--janet jackson
> Why would he?
that sounds like an answer for trebek
>I was in Australia.
My help won't be that insightful...
perhaps to sample the local resources
i watched this really fantastic movie last night about commitment in
marriage called the notebook. i couldn't fall asleep after watching
it. and i cried and cried and cried. it is so sweet.
i like romance stories
mk5000
'that's just someone trying to get attention'--janet jackson
Sep 11th 2006, 10:53 am
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Lester Mosley wrote:
> Did he bring you Vegemite?
hey lester I just got back.
I have a great deal to tell you.
Only it is late and I am beat from a days worth of travel
I have lots of cool notes and will send you some personalized update.
Tomorrow or the day after.
mk5000
"see if the Comm application is open, if
close it and test"--papy
> Did he bring you Vegemite?
hey lester I just got back.
I have a great deal to tell you.
Only it is late and I am beat from a days worth of travel
I have lots of cool notes and will send you some personalized update.
Tomorrow or the day after.
mk5000
"see if the Comm application is open, if
close it and test"--papy
Sep 11th 2006, 11:34 am
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Re: U.S Girlfriend
Originally Posted by Michel
They love to take the money and send you home in tears. Non-refundable fees = revenue to pay inflated government salaries.
Ian
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Sep 15th 2006, 1:16 pm
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"madeinengland" <member55078@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I have a girlfriend in the U.S and I want to be able to visit her
> regulary but I am concerned about those immigration ofiicers! If they
> ask me who I'm visiting & I tell them 'my girlfriend' I know they're not
> going to like it. But I was wondering, there's got to be a way that I
> can prove to the officers that I'm not going to do a runner & get
> married! Lets face it, thats what they think is going to happen, right?
> I don't have a solid job because I want to remain flexible purely for
> the purposes of traveling. I have a BA (Hons) in Graphic Design and i
> intend to use that when i'm ready to settle down. My point is... What
> else do I need to show Immigration officers to prove i'm coming back to
> the U.K? Can I admit that I am seeing a girlfriend?
> Just to throw a spanner in the works... I also had an interview with a
> US consular at the embassy in London and was denied a Tourist Visa
> because my girlfriend 'outweighed' my 'ties' within the U.K!!! ...in a
> nut shell, they think i'm going to get married without notice, which i
> have NO intentions of.
> I understand the mess i'm in but surely there is something I can do
> about all of this? Can anyone help?
> Many Thanks.
Hey answer this question. When Americans visit England or vice versa they
just get on and plane and go and when they arrive their passports are
stamped. So why do you need a special visa just to travel to the US?
> --
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> Hi,
> I have a girlfriend in the U.S and I want to be able to visit her
> regulary but I am concerned about those immigration ofiicers! If they
> ask me who I'm visiting & I tell them 'my girlfriend' I know they're not
> going to like it. But I was wondering, there's got to be a way that I
> can prove to the officers that I'm not going to do a runner & get
> married! Lets face it, thats what they think is going to happen, right?
> I don't have a solid job because I want to remain flexible purely for
> the purposes of traveling. I have a BA (Hons) in Graphic Design and i
> intend to use that when i'm ready to settle down. My point is... What
> else do I need to show Immigration officers to prove i'm coming back to
> the U.K? Can I admit that I am seeing a girlfriend?
> Just to throw a spanner in the works... I also had an interview with a
> US consular at the embassy in London and was denied a Tourist Visa
> because my girlfriend 'outweighed' my 'ties' within the U.K!!! ...in a
> nut shell, they think i'm going to get married without notice, which i
> have NO intentions of.
> I understand the mess i'm in but surely there is something I can do
> about all of this? Can anyone help?
> Many Thanks.
Hey answer this question. When Americans visit England or vice versa they
just get on and plane and go and when they arrive their passports are
stamped. So why do you need a special visa just to travel to the US?
> --
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Sep 15th 2006, 1:23 pm
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"ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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>> After the US Consulate denied my visa application she said "but you
>> can still travel under the VWP" And that keeps echoing in my head. Why
>> would she say that to me given the circumstances?
>> There seems to be forms and paperwork for everything else these day's,
>> Is there not a way that say's to the Immigration officers etc, that I
>> AM coming back? I mean this just seems crazy.
>> My girlfriend is at college & we're not particulary rolling in money
>> so meeting up anywhere else but our own homes would prove difficult.
>> She's coming to see me in December but idealy i wanted to see her
>> before that and, quite honestly after that too!
>> Does anybody actually know the real reason why having a
>> girlfriend/boyfriend in the U.S is such a big problem? If it's for
>> safety reasons then why can't I just say to them for e.g "If I don't
>> come back THEN arrest me!" Surely that makes sense right? I mean
>> they'd have the address of where I'd be staying, the name of the
>> person I'm with, they've got my finger prints and mug shot already!
>> and every other detail about me that would instantly get me arrested
>> if I tried to pull anything! I just don't get it.
>> As you can probably tell, I have a lot of questions but I really need
>> some kind of answers so I can understand all of this & find out what
>> my options are.
>> Many Thanks.
> You can say that you're coming back, but they are not obligated to
> believe you. There is no way you can absolutely prove your intent to
> return after your visit to the US. Plane tickets don't have to be used;
> jobs and homes can be abandoned; family can be left behind...
He doesn't even have a job lol Yes, he's a good risk haha But
what's his problem, why doesn't he just get on a plane like every other
Englishman, no visa required. Passport is just stamped on arrival as a
tourist.
> Ian
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>> After the US Consulate denied my visa application she said "but you
>> can still travel under the VWP" And that keeps echoing in my head. Why
>> would she say that to me given the circumstances?
>> There seems to be forms and paperwork for everything else these day's,
>> Is there not a way that say's to the Immigration officers etc, that I
>> AM coming back? I mean this just seems crazy.
>> My girlfriend is at college & we're not particulary rolling in money
>> so meeting up anywhere else but our own homes would prove difficult.
>> She's coming to see me in December but idealy i wanted to see her
>> before that and, quite honestly after that too!
>> Does anybody actually know the real reason why having a
>> girlfriend/boyfriend in the U.S is such a big problem? If it's for
>> safety reasons then why can't I just say to them for e.g "If I don't
>> come back THEN arrest me!" Surely that makes sense right? I mean
>> they'd have the address of where I'd be staying, the name of the
>> person I'm with, they've got my finger prints and mug shot already!
>> and every other detail about me that would instantly get me arrested
>> if I tried to pull anything! I just don't get it.
>> As you can probably tell, I have a lot of questions but I really need
>> some kind of answers so I can understand all of this & find out what
>> my options are.
>> Many Thanks.
> You can say that you're coming back, but they are not obligated to
> believe you. There is no way you can absolutely prove your intent to
> return after your visit to the US. Plane tickets don't have to be used;
> jobs and homes can be abandoned; family can be left behind...
He doesn't even have a job lol Yes, he's a good risk haha But
what's his problem, why doesn't he just get on a plane like every other
Englishman, no visa required. Passport is just stamped on arrival as a
tourist.
> Ian
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> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Sep 15th 2006, 2:30 pm
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I think you missed the point. He's been here once...coming is NOT the problem. STAYING however, is. By law, any foreigner is allowed to stay 90 days and NO MORE on the visa waiver program. That's where "just getting on a plane and coming over" ends. By the way...how many other "Englishmen" do you know?? And how do you know they just simply hopped on a plane and skipped right over to America? There's definately more to it than that. Why are you on this forum anyway?
Sep 15th 2006, 6:32 pm
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"madeinamerica" <member55241@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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>> "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] m...
>> >> After the US Consulate denied my visa application she said "but you
>> >> can still travel under the VWP" And that keeps echoing in my head.
>> >> Why
>> >> would she say that to me given the circumstances?
>> >> There seems to be forms and paperwork for everything else these
>> >> day's,
>> >> Is there not a way that say's to the Immigration officers etc, that
>> >> I
>> >> AM coming back? I mean this just seems crazy.
>> >> My girlfriend is at college & we're not particulary rolling in
>> >> money
>> >> so meeting up anywhere else but our own homes would prove
>> >> difficult.
>> >> She's coming to see me in December but idealy i wanted to see her
>> >> before that and, quite honestly after that too!
>> >> Does anybody actually know the real reason why having a
>> >> girlfriend/boyfriend in the U.S is such a big problem? If it's for
>> >> safety reasons then why can't I just say to them for e.g "If I
>> >> don't
>> >> come back THEN arrest me!" Surely that makes sense right? I mean
>> >> they'd have the address of where I'd be staying, the name of the
>> >> person I'm with, they've got my finger prints and mug shot already!
>> >> and every other detail about me that would instantly get me
>> >> arrested
>> >> if I tried to pull anything! I just don't get it.
>> >> As you can probably tell, I have a lot of questions but I really
>> >> need
>> >> some kind of answers so I can understand all of this & find out
>> >> what
>> >> my options are.
>> >> Many Thanks.
>> > You can say that you're coming back, but they are not obligated to
>> > believe you. There is no way you can absolutely prove your intent to
>> > return after your visit to the US. Plane tickets don't have to be
>> > used;
>> > jobs and homes can be abandoned; family can be left behind...
>> He doesn't even have a job lol Yes, he's a good risk haha
>> But
>> what's his problem, why doesn't he just get on a plane like every
>> other
>> Englishman, no visa required. Passport is just stamped on arrival as a
>> tourist.
>> > Ian
>> > --
>> > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> I think you missed the point. He's been here once...coming is NOT the
> problem. STAYING however, is. By law, any foreigner is allowed to stay
> 90 days and NO MORE on the visa waiver program. That's where "just
> getting on a plane and coming over" ends. By the way...how many other
> "Englishmen" do you know?? And how do you know they just simply hopped
> on a plane and skipped right over to America? There's definately more
> to it than that. Why are you on this forum anyway?
He said he wanted to visit, it doesn't matter who he's visiting. He also
said he wanted to visit regularly so I doubt his visits would be over 90
days in which case he gets an extention. His problem is that he is not
British and just lives there. Probably a Paki.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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>> "ian-mstm" <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] m...
>> >> After the US Consulate denied my visa application she said "but you
>> >> can still travel under the VWP" And that keeps echoing in my head.
>> >> Why
>> >> would she say that to me given the circumstances?
>> >> There seems to be forms and paperwork for everything else these
>> >> day's,
>> >> Is there not a way that say's to the Immigration officers etc, that
>> >> I
>> >> AM coming back? I mean this just seems crazy.
>> >> My girlfriend is at college & we're not particulary rolling in
>> >> money
>> >> so meeting up anywhere else but our own homes would prove
>> >> difficult.
>> >> She's coming to see me in December but idealy i wanted to see her
>> >> before that and, quite honestly after that too!
>> >> Does anybody actually know the real reason why having a
>> >> girlfriend/boyfriend in the U.S is such a big problem? If it's for
>> >> safety reasons then why can't I just say to them for e.g "If I
>> >> don't
>> >> come back THEN arrest me!" Surely that makes sense right? I mean
>> >> they'd have the address of where I'd be staying, the name of the
>> >> person I'm with, they've got my finger prints and mug shot already!
>> >> and every other detail about me that would instantly get me
>> >> arrested
>> >> if I tried to pull anything! I just don't get it.
>> >> As you can probably tell, I have a lot of questions but I really
>> >> need
>> >> some kind of answers so I can understand all of this & find out
>> >> what
>> >> my options are.
>> >> Many Thanks.
>> > You can say that you're coming back, but they are not obligated to
>> > believe you. There is no way you can absolutely prove your intent to
>> > return after your visit to the US. Plane tickets don't have to be
>> > used;
>> > jobs and homes can be abandoned; family can be left behind...
>> He doesn't even have a job lol Yes, he's a good risk haha
>> But
>> what's his problem, why doesn't he just get on a plane like every
>> other
>> Englishman, no visa required. Passport is just stamped on arrival as a
>> tourist.
>> > Ian
>> > --
>> > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> I think you missed the point. He's been here once...coming is NOT the
> problem. STAYING however, is. By law, any foreigner is allowed to stay
> 90 days and NO MORE on the visa waiver program. That's where "just
> getting on a plane and coming over" ends. By the way...how many other
> "Englishmen" do you know?? And how do you know they just simply hopped
> on a plane and skipped right over to America? There's definately more
> to it than that. Why are you on this forum anyway?
He said he wanted to visit, it doesn't matter who he's visiting. He also
said he wanted to visit regularly so I doubt his visits would be over 90
days in which case he gets an extention. His problem is that he is not
British and just lives there. Probably a Paki.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Sep 16th 2006, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Legal Beagle
He said he wanted to visit, it doesn't matter who he's visiting. He also
said he wanted to visit regularly so I doubt his visits would be over 90
days in which case he gets an extention. His problem is that he is not
British and just lives there. Probably a Paki.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Sep 16th 2006, 7:35 am
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Just to see what opinions i get from this... If I used a different address or even travel to a different state from where my g/f lives in the U.S would this still be allowed or does my visa denial effect my entrance into the U.S regardless to what address or state i'll be going to?
Many Thanks
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