Minty

I spoke with an very reputable immigration law firm today in the US about their services and costs to obtain the Fiance VISA.

Matthew Udall

Hi Minty,
Just curious; when you spoke with this attorney... did she render her advice in a private conversation in her office, or did you call into a radio talk show and she rendered her advice over the air for all the world to hear?

If in a private setting, before asking her opinion, did you tell her that you would be broadcasting her advice for all the world to read? Had the attorney known that, that might influence what she might tell you.

Plus in your posting above, you mention what the attorney said concerning the attorney's observations of what "other" people might have done in the past. Did this attorney tell you to immigrate with a nonimmigrant option? If so, may I have this attorneys name and number please (she needs to be made aware that what she's telling people in private conversations is not really private at all and is being broadcast to the world at large)?

As far as the "pitfalls" that might happen along the way into the U.S., I'll let Paul Gani tell you that ;-).

Steffi

I'm a little confused about your response. Are you saying it's ok for the attorney to tell her that she should enter on the VWP to marry and adjust status from there? I thought doing that (entering the country on the VWP with the intention to marry) is a big no-no? I don't really understand why you are telling her it's wrong to raise her concerns in public. It seems quite reasonable to me, especially if she's heard other people talk about how "dangerous" it is and then gets told by her attorney that she should do it.

shepslady

Somehow I wouldnt be happy paying money to a lawyer that would give out advise like that. Guess you do what you think you have to do but I think posting it on here was foolish afterall you never know who might be lurking around reading these postings. All I can say is as hard as the long wait was I am happy that we did everything by the book & all is above board & legal.
Goodluck in what ever you decided!
Cheers
Shepslady

Matthew Udall

Hi Steffi.
No, I’m not saying that at all. What I do when people call me about this is to spell out their options, and if some of those options entail risks I spell out those risks as well. I also tell them that I cannot advise someone to commit an illegal act.

I’m not saying its wrong for her to raise her concerns. Quite the contrary, it was wise for her to raise her concerns. What I said was that if the attorney knew she was rendering legal advice for all the world to read, that might influence whether or not that attorney would be advising her to commit an illegal act at the POE. I’ll bet that attorney had no idea Minty would be retelling the attorneys advice to the public, and it sounds like a lesson that attorney needs to learn.

I like the way Folinskyinla once put it…. that when looking at a potential client sitting across the desk, envision a microphone going straight to the prosecuting attorney’s office. If an attorney would not tell someone to commit an illegal act (render that information in a public setting) in front of the prosecutor, one should not do it in a private setting either (especially now that anybody with a computer can rebroadcast that to the entire world).

Minty, if you don’t want to divulge that attorneys name and number (nor do I really think you should), than at least do her a favor and send her a link to this thread and tell her to take a look. Thanks, and good luck with your wedding and marriage.

Paul Gani

    > > As far as the "pitfalls" that might happen along the way into the
    > > U.S., I'll let Paul Gani tell you that ;-).

Go read this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....supernews.com

Paulgani

Paul Gani

"Matthew Udall" <member3997@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > No, I'm not saying that at all. What I do when people call me about this
    > is to spell out their options, and if some of those options entail risks
    > I spell out those risks as well. I also tell them that I cannot advise
    > someone to commit an illegal act.

Are you stating that you tell clients that entry as a tourist is an option?
And then later mention that the option entails significant risk and you
cannot advise them to do it because it is illegal?

Paulgani

Matthew Udall

Assuming you are talking about immigrating with a nonimmigrant option (someone is currently outside the U.S. wanting to immigrate with a nonimmigrant option such as a tourist visa or VWP), if they ask about doing this (they usually say they read about doing this on the net somewhere), I point out that this would require the commission of an illegal act at the POE and I tell them the consequences that could attach for that illegal act.

And if someone said they were going to do that anyway and wanted my help, I'd tell them to find another attorney as I'm not interested.

If you search the old postings, you will see where I’ve discussed this before in the context of a young man that once called and was sure he could do this since he “read it on the net�. He could not accept the illegal act at the POE part, and eventually blurted out a curse word at me and slammed down his phone. That’s OK, I don’t need clients like that.

Grinch

What a fine link.....those were the days!

Grinch

"Paul Gani" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > > > As far as the "pitfalls" that might happen along the way into the
    > > > U.S., I'll let Paul Gani tell you that ;-).
    > Go read this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...lm=urqsesoart7
c0c%40corp.supernews.com
    > Paulgani

207lonsdale

Somehow I wish the US would follow the UK's example in respect of this issue:-

***Q: If I got married on the spur-of-the-moment while on a visitor's visa, do I have to leave the country to apply?
A: The IND used to allow applicants who got married on the spur-of-the-moment to obtain a marriage visa if they could prove that the marriage was unplanned previous to their arrival in the UK on a visitor's visa, but the risk was still much higher that the application would be denied. However, the rules have been changed to close this loophole entirely and it is no longer allowed at all. If you do apply on this basis, your application will absolutely be denied and you will be facing having to leave on your own volition or be deported. ***

Bluegrass Lass

Belated Congratulations on your wedding Lonsdale!

new

Ok, someone please tell me, am i screwed? I got married, then went home. Then came back, then went home again. This is the 3rd and final time i came here, and filed for AOS. I got my interview soon. I wasnt planning to stay any of these times for various good reasons. But, now i have.