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I spoke with a tier 2 immigration officer yesterday. They said that it would start counting from the days on the denial letter. I also asked if from the point of Marriage and to the point you file for AOS, does that also count and she said no. Just from the Denial to the say you leave.
So im hoping she is correct, I cant see how an immigration officer could give us false information. Either way I did not over stay 180 days so that is a relief.
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I'd be very surprised if she actually was an 'immigration officer' - IE an employee oi USCIS. Anyway, the US Government can lie to you, or tell you untruths, all it wants - and it bears no responsibly for those lies. That has been proven in case law before.
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No way! That is crazy! I guess its not a relief then! I called and asked for them to put me through to an immigration officer, to which they said the wait will be 3 hours. So I scheduled a call back and eventually got the rudest lady I could of possibly had the pleasure of talking to but none the less asked her a few questions to which that was her response. So I will be asking the attorney that you recommended instead. Thank you
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K1 Visa is a single entry vis good for 90 days, the question is whether filing AOS stops the clock.
You could have reopened the case or simply refiled if in the US, overstays are 'forgiven' when adjusting through marriage, they are triggered as far as any ban is concerned when you left.
The CO at the Consulate interview is the one who will make the call.
You could have reopened the case or simply refiled if in the US, overstays are 'forgiven' when adjusting through marriage, they are triggered as far as any ban is concerned when you left.
The CO at the Consulate interview is the one who will make the call.
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K1 Visa is a single entry vis good for 90 days, the question is whether filing AOS stops the clock.
You could have reopened the case or simply refiled if in the US, overstays are 'forgiven' when adjusting through marriage, they are triggered as far as any ban is concerned when you left.
The CO at the Consulate interview is the one who will make the call.
You could have reopened the case or simply refiled if in the US, overstays are 'forgiven' when adjusting through marriage, they are triggered as far as any ban is concerned when you left.
The CO at the Consulate interview is the one who will make the call.
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The problem arose because you left, you could have stayed 10 years out of status and still filed to adjust.
I am not sure how they will look at it, my understanding is that when you file to adjust your stay is under the colour of law, if you adjust the issue goes away and of course most do.
I am not sure how they will look at it, my understanding is that when you file to adjust your stay is under the colour of law, if you adjust the issue goes away and of course most do.
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The problem arose because you left, you could have stayed 10 years out of status and still filed to adjust.
I am not sure how they will look at it, my understanding is that when you file to adjust your stay is under the colour of law, if you adjust the issue goes away and of course most do.
I am not sure how they will look at it, my understanding is that when you file to adjust your stay is under the colour of law, if you adjust the issue goes away and of course most do.
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I don't get how a ban would be a option when I was told to leave, we tried to do the right thing. Makes me feel sick thinking about it.
Yes, you were told to leave, but it was possible to stay and either get the case reopened or refile AOS. I know you didn't know that and you took the path you thought was right.
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It was a failing on the part of the three immigration attorneys you consulted in this matter. You were given inadequate information and many would say, incorrect information on how to proceed. Of course, the problem was due in large part to your misfiling of the AR-11 for your change of address and the non-filing of the I-865 for your financial sponsor's change of address (your wife). Over the last 21 years it has been that one files the AR-11 and then a few weeks later follows it up with a call to the 1-800 misinformation number. (It is called that for a reason. They are not government workers. They are not employed by the USCIS. They are contract personnel of a private company hired to answer phone calls. They do not know or care about USCIS laws and regulations.) Did you not give the officer at your interview your correct address?
Unfortunately, it is what it is. Now you have to wait it out apart from one another and you don't have the option of returning to the US for a visit without a formal B2 visa because of your overstay. You will not be given one because of the nature of the situation. Your wife needs to come to you to spend time if she wants to see you or you can meet up in a third country.
Find a job and get one with your life the best you can in the UK. There is no point in worrying or counting overstay days, etc. You are not going to get a clear picture until the day of the interview. Even if you are overstayed 180 days, I believe you can still file a waiver. I'm hoping that is correct.
Unfortunately, it is what it is. Now you have to wait it out apart from one another and you don't have the option of returning to the US for a visit without a formal B2 visa because of your overstay. You will not be given one because of the nature of the situation. Your wife needs to come to you to spend time if she wants to see you or you can meet up in a third country.
Find a job and get one with your life the best you can in the UK. There is no point in worrying or counting overstay days, etc. You are not going to get a clear picture until the day of the interview. Even if you are overstayed 180 days, I believe you can still file a waiver. I'm hoping that is correct.
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It was a failing on the part of the three immigration attorneys you consulted in this matter. You were given inadequate information and many would say, incorrect information on how to proceed. Of course, the problem was due in large part to your misfiling of the AR-11 for your change of address and the non-filing of the I-865 for your financial sponsor's change of address (your wife). Over the last 21 years it has been that one files the AR-11 and then a few weeks later follows it up with a call to the 1-800 misinformation number. (It is called that for a reason. They are not government workers. They are not employed by the USCIS. They are contract personnel of a private company hired to answer phone calls. They do not know or care about USCIS laws and regulations.) Did you not give the officer at your interview your correct address?
Unfortunately, it is what it is. Now you have to wait it out apart from one another and you don't have the option of returning to the US for a visit without a formal B2 visa because of your overstay. You will not be given one because of the nature of the situation. Your wife needs to come to you to spend time if she wants to see you or you can meet up in a third country.
Find a job and get one with your life the best you can in the UK. There is no point in worrying or counting overstay days, etc. You are not going to get a clear picture until the day of the interview. Even if you are overstayed 180 days, I believe you can still file a waiver. I'm hoping that is correct.
Unfortunately, it is what it is. Now you have to wait it out apart from one another and you don't have the option of returning to the US for a visit without a formal B2 visa because of your overstay. You will not be given one because of the nature of the situation. Your wife needs to come to you to spend time if she wants to see you or you can meet up in a third country.
Find a job and get one with your life the best you can in the UK. There is no point in worrying or counting overstay days, etc. You are not going to get a clear picture until the day of the interview. Even if you are overstayed 180 days, I believe you can still file a waiver. I'm hoping that is correct.
That is what I am trying to do hoping for the best.
Is this such a rare situation that nobody knows when an overstay count would begin?
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my layman's guess is that the time starts from the date of denial, since during AOS you were allowed to stay under "color of law".
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