SSN. Did I mess up?
#1
SSN. Did I mess up?
Looking at my SSN card for the first time in years. It states "Valid for work only with DHS Authorisation"
I was K1 in 2004, conditional PR for 2 years and PR ever since. As far as I can remember I only ever had this card. Was there a point I was meant to apply for one without the above wording? Or is that coming after I get citizenship?
I use the number frequently, but can't remember the last time I had to show the card to anyone, so it does not seem to matter much either way, but there must be a purpose that I am overlooking?
I was K1 in 2004, conditional PR for 2 years and PR ever since. As far as I can remember I only ever had this card. Was there a point I was meant to apply for one without the above wording? Or is that coming after I get citizenship?
I use the number frequently, but can't remember the last time I had to show the card to anyone, so it does not seem to matter much either way, but there must be a purpose that I am overlooking?
#2
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
I don't think you would ever need to show it to anyone, as far as I am aware the card is for your own reference.
#4
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Back in the dark recesses of my mind, I remember this being discussed before. I believe that the wording is there to ensure that the SSN is presented with a work authorization. Once you have a green card in hand, you can go to the ss office and apply for a new card without the wording. I'm not sure what difference it makes.
#5
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Also long as you have a green card or are a USC, it really doesn't matter what it says on the social security card.
The only time I would think it would matter would be if an employer asked to see your social security card and it had that notation and you didn't have anything with you to prove that you are authorized to work.
BTW, I lost my social security prior to being 17 years old and have never been asked for it. Even when I applied for social security and Medicare, they just asked me what my social security number was and I had to provide a birth certificate. Maybe when e-verify is required, then it may be important but as of now, a green card authorizes you to work and it doesn't matter what is in the social security database or on the social security card. However it is much more difficult to forge a green card than to forge a social security card so I doubt e-verify would trump a green card.
The only time I would think it would matter would be if an employer asked to see your social security card and it had that notation and you didn't have anything with you to prove that you are authorized to work.
BTW, I lost my social security prior to being 17 years old and have never been asked for it. Even when I applied for social security and Medicare, they just asked me what my social security number was and I had to provide a birth certificate. Maybe when e-verify is required, then it may be important but as of now, a green card authorizes you to work and it doesn't matter what is in the social security database or on the social security card. However it is much more difficult to forge a green card than to forge a social security card so I doubt e-verify would trump a green card.
Last edited by Michael; Aug 29th 2013 at 6:12 am.
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Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Remove it... don't remove it... entirely up to you.
Ian
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Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
The only time I've actually had to present my SSC rather than quote my SSN has been at the DMV to get my Learner's Permit. This may be a NYS thing.
#8
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Frankly as Ian said it doesn't matter but if asked to produce it and it still has the verbage on it, you will have to also present your green card.
Please note that once you have US Citizenship you most definitely need to take your naturalization certificate in person to the social security administration office and have your status upgraded to US Citizen.
Please note that once you have US Citizenship you most definitely need to take your naturalization certificate in person to the social security administration office and have your status upgraded to US Citizen.
#9
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
I came in on a marriage visa, so I was authorised to work from the day I arrived and eligible for citizenship three years later. Was I supposed to take my naturalization certificate to the SS admin office to have my status changed to reflect my US Citizenship?
#10
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Many oath ceremonies will have tables set up for SS, voter reg and sometimes passport so you can do all at once after the ceremony.
#11
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
In order to complete the I-9, one must show 1) proof of identity and 2) proof of authorization to work.
Some documents will do both: e.g. US passport, I-551 card, EAD, etc.
In regards to documents that show authorization to work without showing identity the un-endorsed SSN card will do the trick. Usually, this is the case with US born american citizens.
BTW, I understand that the SSA and DHS computers do "talk" when an endorsed SSN gets earnings credited to it. But I also understand that the DHS computer will go "I'm cool with that."
OP may want to make an on-line self-check with the E-verify people.
Some documents will do both: e.g. US passport, I-551 card, EAD, etc.
In regards to documents that show authorization to work without showing identity the un-endorsed SSN card will do the trick. Usually, this is the case with US born american citizens.
BTW, I understand that the SSA and DHS computers do "talk" when an endorsed SSN gets earnings credited to it. But I also understand that the DHS computer will go "I'm cool with that."
OP may want to make an on-line self-check with the E-verify people.
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Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Real life lesson from my personal experience: I applied for a FAFSA loan to help with tuition when I went back to school. The loan was denied because even though I indicated that I was a USC, when they checked with SSA, my status did not reflect that... and my application was flagged. Once I confirmed my status with SSA, the loan was subsequently approved.
Having SSA know you're a USC may also help your family when it comes to death benefits!
Ian
#13
Re: SSN. Did I mess up?
Thanks everyone. Glad I did not miss something important - I was only thinking about such things as I recently put my Citizenship application in. I had a paranoid moment.
I did the self check, Mr F suggested, and am work authorized (was never in doubt about that). It is a pretty slick tool.
I will be sure to get the upgraded card once the citizenship is done.
I did the self check, Mr F suggested, and am work authorized (was never in doubt about that). It is a pretty slick tool.
I will be sure to get the upgraded card once the citizenship is done.