postie

Hi Posties wife back again. Can anyone tell me about sponsorship? I was thinking about my father sponsoring myself, husband and 2 sons. He's offered but to be quite honest we don't know much about it and want to cover all the options!
Thanks!

Graphic Queen

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:44:56 +0000, postie
<member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >Hi Posties wife back again. Can anyone tell me about sponsorship? I
    >was thinking about my father sponsoring myself, husband and 2 sons.
    >He's offered but to be quite honest we don't know much about it and want
    >to cover all the options!
    >Thanks!

Sponsorship is when one says they will take care of an immigrant but
when the immigrant actually gets here then the immigrant goes on
welfare of some sort and then our country has to take care of them.

GQ

postie

Thanks for that. What if my father wants to sponsor us? Do we have to go onto welfare? Could we work, for example? We've never taken anything from the UK social security system and wouldn't want to start doing it another country!

Graphic Queen

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:48:02 +0000, postie
<member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >Originally posted by Graphic Queen
    >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004
    >15:44:56 +0000, postie
    >> <member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Hi Posties wife back again. Can anyone tell me about sponsorship?
    >I
    >> >was thinking about my father sponsoring myself, husband
    >and 2 sons.
    >> >He's offered but to be quite honest we don't
    >know much about it and want
    >> >to cover all the options!
    >>Thanks!
    >>
    >> Sponsorship is when one says they will take care
    >of an immigrant but
    >> when the immigrant actually gets here then the
    >immigrant goes on
    >> welfare of some sort and then our country has to
    >take care of them.
    >>
    >> GQ
    >Thanks for that. What if my
    >father wants to sponsor us? Do we have to go onto welfare? Could we
    >work, for example? We've never taken anything from the UK social
    >security system and wouldn't want to start doing it another country!

You mean the mother and father are going to work?

Sylvia Ottemoeller

"postie" <member17173@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

    > Originally posted by Graphic Queen

    > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004
    > 15:44:56 +0000, postie
    > > <member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:

    > >Hi Posties wife back again. Can anyone tell me about sponsorship? I
    > > >was thinking about my father sponsoring myself, husband and 2 sons.
    > > >He's offered but to be quite honest we don't know much about it and
want
    > > >to cover all the options!

Sponsorship means a few different things. One meaning is that the father
files an I-130 relative petition with the USCIS, asking to classify you and
your family in a category for immigration. You already referred to that in
another post -- that process has a seven year wait or so.

The other thing that "sponsorship" means is the promise to support you and
your family financially. This is in connection with the I-130 immigration
process. You can't move or immigrate to the U.S. just because someone
promises to support you, if that's what you're thinking.

    > > Sponsorship is when one says they will take care of an immigrant but
    > > when the immigrant actually gets here then the immigrant goes on
    > > welfare of some sort and then our country has to take care of them.

    > Thanks for that. What if my
    > father wants to sponsor us? Do we have to go onto welfare?

On the contrary, you cannot go on welfare. If you do, the government will
go after your father for the money. The I-864 affidavit of support is
legally enforceable, and the government could simply take money out of your
father's bank account if necessary.

Could we
    > work, for example? We've never taken anything from the UK social
    > security system and wouldn't want to start doing it another country!

Graphic Queen was being sarcastic, I would guess.

Graphic Queen

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:04:11 -0800, "Sylvia Ottemoeller"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"postie" <member17173@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Originally posted by Graphic Queen
    >> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004
    >> 15:44:56 +0000, postie
    >> > <member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> >Hi Posties wife back again. Can anyone tell me about sponsorship? I
    >> > >was thinking about my father sponsoring myself, husband and 2 sons.
    >> > >He's offered but to be quite honest we don't know much about it and
    >want
    >> > >to cover all the options!
    >Sponsorship means a few different things. One meaning is that the father
    >files an I-130 relative petition with the USCIS, asking to classify you and
    >your family in a category for immigration. You already referred to that in
    >another post -- that process has a seven year wait or so.
    >The other thing that "sponsorship" means is the promise to support you and
    >your family financially. This is in connection with the I-130 immigration
    >process. You can't move or immigrate to the U.S. just because someone
    >promises to support you, if that's what you're thinking.
    >> > Sponsorship is when one says they will take care of an immigrant but
    >> > when the immigrant actually gets here then the immigrant goes on
    >> > welfare of some sort and then our country has to take care of them.
    >> Thanks for that. What if my
    >> father wants to sponsor us? Do we have to go onto welfare?
    >On the contrary, you cannot go on welfare. If you do, the government will
    >go after your father for the money. The I-864 affidavit of support is
    >legally enforceable, and the government could simply take money out of your
    >father's bank account if necessary.

Of course you have just proven that you don't know it all. I know of
several people that were sponsored and they in fact went on welfare
(SSI). What you say is correct and exactly what is wrotten but not
what is actually done of course. Don't believe me? Then all one must
do is look at the thousands of Mexicans that have been sponsored and
the fact that such a large number of them are on the dole. Not one
thing has been done to any member of any of the families. I personally
know of 6 different families in the Las Cruces area where all that I
said is absolute FACT.

GQ
    >Could we
    >> work, for example? We've never taken anything from the UK social
    >> security system and wouldn't want to start doing it another country!
    >Graphic Queen was being sarcastic, I would guess.

postie

Thanks for your replys. I was just asking! I don't understand this sponsorship thing at all! Why have a sponsorship programme if you still have the same old problems with getting to the USA? I'm not after a free ride. I've been trying to find out as much about every option as I can. The reason can be found if you look at my previous posts on the 'Lifestyle' forum (it's too long to go into here!) we want to immigrate and want to do it legally but as quick as possible.
Thanks again!

Graphic Queen

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:02:03 +0000, postie
<member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >Originally posted by Graphic Queen
    >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004
    >17:04:11 -0800, "Sylvia Ottemoeller"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >"postie" <member17173@british_expats.com> wrote in
    >message
    >> >news:[email protected]"]ne-
    >ws:[email protected][/url]...
    >> >>
    >Originally posted by Graphic Queen
    >> >> > On Wed, 10 Mar
    >2004
    >> >> 15:44:56 +0000, postie
    >> >> >
    ><member17173@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> >> >Hi Posties wife
    >back again. Can anyone tell me about sponsorship? I
    >> >> >
    >>was thinking about my father sponsoring myself, husband and 2
    >sons.
    >> >> > >He's offered but to be quite honest we don't know
    >much about it and
    >> >want
    >> >> > >to cover all the
    >options!
    >> >Sponsorship means a few different things. One
    >meaning is that the father
    >> >files an I-130 relative petition
    >with the USCIS, asking to classify you and
    >> >your family in a
    >category for immigration. You already referred to that in
    >>another post -- that process has a seven year wait or so.
    >>The other thing that "sponsorship" means is the promise to support
    >you and
    >> >your family financially. This is in connection with
    >the I-130 immigration
    >> >process. You can't move or immigrate
    >to the U.S. just because someone
    >> >promises to support you, if
    >that's what you're thinking.
    >> >> > Sponsorship is when one
    >says they will take care of an immigrant but
    >> >> > when the
    >immigrant actually gets here then the immigrant goes on
    >> >> >
    >welfare of some sort and then our country has to take care of them.
    >> >> Thanks for that. What if my
    >> >> father wants to
    >sponsor us? Do we have to go onto welfare?
    >> >On the
    >contrary, you cannot go on welfare. If you do, the government will
    >> >go after your father for the money. The I-864 affidavit of
    >support is
    >> >legally enforceable, and the government could
    >simply take money out of your
    >> >father's bank account if
    >necessary.
    >>
    >> Of course you have just proven that you don't know
    >it all. I know of
    >> several people that were sponsored and they in fact
    >went on welfare
    >> (SSI). What you say is correct and exactly what is
    >wrotten but not
    >> what is actually done of course. Don't believe me?
    >Then all one must
    >> do is look at the thousands of Mexicans that have
    >been sponsored and
    >> the fact that such a large number of them are on
    >the dole. Not one
    >> thing has been done to any member of any of the
    >families. I personally
    >> know of 6 different families in the Las Cruces
    >area where all that I
    >> said is absolute FACT.
    >>
    >> GQ
    >> >Could
    >we
    >> >> work, for example? We've never taken anything from
    >the UK social
    >> >> security system and wouldn't want to start
    >doing it another country!
    >> >Graphic Queen was being sarcastic,
    >I would guess.
    >Thanks for your replys. I was just
    >asking! I don't understand this sponsorship thing at all! Why have a
    >sponsorship programme if you still have the same old problems with
    >getting to the USA? I'm not after a free ride. I've been trying to
    >find out as much about every option as I can. The reason can be found
    >if you look at my previous posts on the 'Lifestyle' forum (it's too long
    >to go into here!) we want to immigrate and want to do it legally but
    >as quick as possible.
    >Thanks again!

I appreciate the fact that you are at least trying to go about this
legally. I don't know enough about the actual process except to tell
you that it will take you much longer than you would want or like and
much of that will be because of our stupid homeland security, wheich
really doesn't do anything except to take tax money for not making
this country secure.

Good Luck to you though!!!

GQ

Ursus Polaris

Graphic Queen wrote:

but
    > when the immigrant actually gets here then the immigrant goes on
    > welfare of some sort and then our country has to take care of them.
    >
    > GQ


Is this so easy?

In Germany the U.S. often has the reputation of having a rather poor
social services network, where especially the lazy cannot live on
welfare like in Germany ....

Graphic Queen

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:41:31 +0100, ursus polaris
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Graphic Queen wrote:
    > but
    >> when the immigrant actually gets here then the immigrant goes on
    >> welfare of some sort and then our country has to take care of them.
    >>
    >> GQ
    >Is this so easy?

Unfortunately YES it is anymore. Just ask any Mexican.
    >In Germany the U.S. often has the reputation of having a rather poor
    >social services network, where especially the lazy cannot live on
    >welfare like in Germany ....






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