Should I file I-130 and I-485 concurrently?. F1 Visa, happily married.
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Hi Im David in Texas, this is my situation.
I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
).
I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
should we file concurrently? What are the differences?
My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
the I-765 fee?
Another confusing situation:
I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico? Is there
some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
this a case of advance parole? If this is so, Is there a period
between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
can't use my F1 anymore?
One more question (sorry, lol), should we file to a local office or to
the Service Center? Somebody know the differences?.
Well, hopefully some good soul can help me with some of the questions.
Thanks in advance.
David Cossio
[email protected]
"Life is a miracle, no death is meaningless"
I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
should we file concurrently? What are the differences?
My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
the I-765 fee?
Another confusing situation:
I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico? Is there
some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
this a case of advance parole? If this is so, Is there a period
between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
can't use my F1 anymore?
One more question (sorry, lol), should we file to a local office or to
the Service Center? Somebody know the differences?.
Well, hopefully some good soul can help me with some of the questions.
Thanks in advance.
David Cossio
[email protected]
"Life is a miracle, no death is meaningless"
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>Subject: Should I file I-130 and I-485 concurrently?. F1 Visa, happily
>married.
>From: [email protected] (David C)
>Date: 3/3/03 7:49 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id:
>Hi Im David in Texas, this is my situation.
>I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
>now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
>authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
>My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
).
>I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
>needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
>take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
>should we file concurrently? What are the differences?
>My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
>US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
>long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
>permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
>automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
>I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
>I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
>the I-765 fee?
>Another confusing situation:
>I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
>Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
>When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico? Is there
>some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
>this a case of advance parole? If this is so, Is there a period
>between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
>such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
>to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
>anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
>passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
>can't use my F1 anymore?
>One more question (sorry, lol), should we file to a local office or to
>the Service Center? Somebody know the differences?.
>Well, hopefully some good soul can help me with some of the questions.
>Thanks in advance.
>David Cossio
>[email protected]
You have a complicated case. Suggest you hire a lawyer to avoid any
complications.
>married.
>From: [email protected] (David C)
>Date: 3/3/03 7:49 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id:
>Hi Im David in Texas, this is my situation.
>I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
>now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
>authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
>My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
>I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
>needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
>take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
>should we file concurrently? What are the differences?
>My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
>US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
>long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
>permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
>automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
>I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
>I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
>the I-765 fee?
>Another confusing situation:
>I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
>Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
>When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico? Is there
>some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
>this a case of advance parole? If this is so, Is there a period
>between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
>such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
>to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
>anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
>passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
>can't use my F1 anymore?
>One more question (sorry, lol), should we file to a local office or to
>the Service Center? Somebody know the differences?.
>Well, hopefully some good soul can help me with some of the questions.
>Thanks in advance.
>David Cossio
>[email protected]
You have a complicated case. Suggest you hire a lawyer to avoid any
complications.
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> Hi Im David in Texas, this is my situation.
> I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
> now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
> authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
> My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
).
> I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
> needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
> take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
> should we file concurrently?
You should file the I-130 and I-485 (and I-765 and I-131) concurrently at
INS El Paso. Here is the web page, which is broken at the moment:
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...so/aboutus.htm
Here is one account of filing Form I-485 at INS El Paso in 1998:
http://www.kamya.com/aos/texas.html
What are the differences?
If you file the I-130 by itself, it must be submitted to the INS Texas
Service Center, and then you must wait for approval. This will take almost
2 years from filing to approval; see http://www.shusterman.com/tsc.html.
You would then file the I-485 with the I-130 approval at INS El Paso.
Most people who file I-130s at the INS Service Center are establishing a
priority date in a numerically limited family-based category. They cannot
file the I-485.
There is no advantage filing the I-130 separately first, when you as an
immediate relative in a category which is not limited can file the I-485
concurrently. It would simply add to your overall processing time the extra
time for filing and approval of the I-130.
> My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
> US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
> long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
> permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
> automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
The I-765 must be filed; there is no automatic work authorization.
According to http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm, INS El Paso takes
14 days from filing to approval of the I-765.
> I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
> I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
> the I-765 fee?
No. Actually, if you obtain H-1B status, you can probably skip the I-765.
Your employer would have to initiate this. You could get the H-1B petition
approved within 2 weeks, with premium processing.
> Another confusing situation:
> I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
> Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
> When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico?
The way I see it, your F-1 OPT continues even after the I-485, to its
expiration date. It does not just stop. However, the moment the I-485 has
been filed, you may not leave the U.S., even for a few hours, unless you
have advance parole. If you leave the U.S. without advance parole, your
I-485 is deemed abandoned.
Is there
> some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
> this a case of advance parole?
Yes.
Just one thing - if your employer gets H-1B status for you, you can travel
using the H-1B status, and you don't need advance parole. However, you
would have to get an H-1B visa stamp on the first trip outside the U.S. See
http://www.shusterman.com/hl-99regs.html.
If this is so, Is there a period
> between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
> such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
> to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
> anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
> passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
> can't use my F1 anymore?
Correct, if you file Form I-485, you cannot use your F-1 any more for
travel. You will have to wait for the approval of the I-131, application
for advance parole. http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm says that
advance parole is taking 120 days at INS El Paso. It is possible that you
could get expedited processing of your I-131; you would need a strong letter
from your employer, probably.
If you did not have the travel problem, I would say you can do this all
yourself. However, with the problem, I think it would be best to get the
help of a good immigration attorney.
> One more question (sorry, lol), should we file to a local office or to
> the Service Center? Somebody know the differences?.
See above.
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> Hi Im David in Texas, this is my situation.
> I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
> now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
> authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
> My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
> I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
> needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
> take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
> should we file concurrently?
You should file the I-130 and I-485 (and I-765 and I-131) concurrently at
INS El Paso. Here is the web page, which is broken at the moment:
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...so/aboutus.htm
Here is one account of filing Form I-485 at INS El Paso in 1998:
http://www.kamya.com/aos/texas.html
What are the differences?
If you file the I-130 by itself, it must be submitted to the INS Texas
Service Center, and then you must wait for approval. This will take almost
2 years from filing to approval; see http://www.shusterman.com/tsc.html.
You would then file the I-485 with the I-130 approval at INS El Paso.
Most people who file I-130s at the INS Service Center are establishing a
priority date in a numerically limited family-based category. They cannot
file the I-485.
There is no advantage filing the I-130 separately first, when you as an
immediate relative in a category which is not limited can file the I-485
concurrently. It would simply add to your overall processing time the extra
time for filing and approval of the I-130.
> My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
> US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
> long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
> permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
> automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
The I-765 must be filed; there is no automatic work authorization.
According to http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm, INS El Paso takes
14 days from filing to approval of the I-765.
> I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
> I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
> the I-765 fee?
No. Actually, if you obtain H-1B status, you can probably skip the I-765.
Your employer would have to initiate this. You could get the H-1B petition
approved within 2 weeks, with premium processing.
> Another confusing situation:
> I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
> Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
> When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico?
The way I see it, your F-1 OPT continues even after the I-485, to its
expiration date. It does not just stop. However, the moment the I-485 has
been filed, you may not leave the U.S., even for a few hours, unless you
have advance parole. If you leave the U.S. without advance parole, your
I-485 is deemed abandoned.
Is there
> some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
> this a case of advance parole?
Yes.
Just one thing - if your employer gets H-1B status for you, you can travel
using the H-1B status, and you don't need advance parole. However, you
would have to get an H-1B visa stamp on the first trip outside the U.S. See
http://www.shusterman.com/hl-99regs.html.
If this is so, Is there a period
> between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
> such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
> to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
> anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
> passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
> can't use my F1 anymore?
Correct, if you file Form I-485, you cannot use your F-1 any more for
travel. You will have to wait for the approval of the I-131, application
for advance parole. http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm says that
advance parole is taking 120 days at INS El Paso. It is possible that you
could get expedited processing of your I-131; you would need a strong letter
from your employer, probably.
If you did not have the travel problem, I would say you can do this all
yourself. However, with the problem, I think it would be best to get the
help of a good immigration attorney.
> One more question (sorry, lol), should we file to a local office or to
> the Service Center? Somebody know the differences?.
See above.
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Thanks Sylvia, very complete and helpful information.
We'll do it by ourselves. No lawyer around. Doing some research is just
working for me.
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We'll do it by ourselves. No lawyer around. Doing some research is just
working for me.
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> "David C" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
> > now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
> > authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
> >
> > My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
).
> >
> > I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
> > needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
> > take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
> > should we file concurrently?
> You should file the I-130 and I-485 (and I-765 and I-131) concurrently at
> INS El Paso.
[snip]
> > My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
> > US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
> > long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
> > permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
> > automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
> The I-765 must be filed; there is no automatic work authorization.
> According to http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm, INS El Paso
takes
> 14 days from filing to approval of the I-765.
> > I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
> > I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
> > the I-765 fee?
> No. Actually, if you obtain H-1B status, you can probably skip the I-765.
> Your employer would have to initiate this. You could get the H-1B
petition
> approved within 2 weeks, with premium processing.
> > Another confusing situation:
> > I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
> > Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
> > When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico?
> The way I see it, your F-1 OPT continues even after the I-485, to its
> expiration date. It does not just stop. However, the moment the I-485
has
> been filed, you may not leave the U.S., even for a few hours, unless you
> have advance parole. If you leave the U.S. without advance parole, your
> I-485 is deemed abandoned.
> Is there
> > some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
> > this a case of advance parole?
> Yes.
> Just one thing - if your employer gets H-1B status for you, you can travel
> using the H-1B status, and you don't need advance parole. However, you
> would have to get an H-1B visa stamp on the first trip outside the U.S.
See
> http://www.shusterman.com/hl-99regs.html.
> If this is so, Is there a period
> > between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
> > such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
> > to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
> > anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
> > passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
> > can't use my F1 anymore?
> Correct, if you file Form I-485, you cannot use your F-1 any more for
> travel. You will have to wait for the approval of the I-131, application
> for advance parole. http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm says
that
> advance parole is taking 120 days at INS El Paso. It is possible that you
> could get expedited processing of your I-131; you would need a strong
letter
> from your employer, probably.
One more thing. If you use advance parole to travel to Mexico and return,
you must have your EAD (based on the I-485) approved. The reason for this
is that when you use advance parole to enter the U.S., your status is
"paroled." It is not F-1 any more. Therefore you must have your EAD (based
on the I-485).
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> "David C" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have a F1 visa, finished my masters degree summer 2002, and right
> > now I'm on OPT (optional practical training), so I have an employement
> > authorization card for the INS valid until July 2003.
> >
> > My wife is a US citizen, we married on May 2002 (Las Vegas,
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
> >
> > I want to change my status to permanent resident, I understand she
> > needs to file a I-130 and I need to file the I-485. How long does it
> > take each form? Should we file first the I-130 and later the I-485 or
> > should we file concurrently?
> You should file the I-130 and I-485 (and I-765 and I-131) concurrently at
> INS El Paso.
[snip]
> > My wife is expecting, she doesn't work. I have a good job here in the
> > US and obviously, I support our home. After we file the I-130, How
> > long does it take for me to be allowed to work? Since my current work
> > permit expires next July, should I file the I-765 too? Or, it is
> > automatic the work permit once they aprove the I-130?
> The I-765 must be filed; there is no automatic work authorization.
> According to http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm, INS El Paso
takes
> 14 days from filing to approval of the I-765.
> > I am kind of confused, since I am already working and already married;
> > I don't know if the I-765 apply for my case. Is there a way I can skip
> > the I-765 fee?
> No. Actually, if you obtain H-1B status, you can probably skip the I-765.
> Your employer would have to initiate this. You could get the H-1B
petition
> approved within 2 weeks, with premium processing.
> > Another confusing situation:
> > I live in the border (El Paso), and work as a professor both sides (El
> > Paso, TX and Juarez, MEX), so I go to Mexico at least 3 times a week.
> > When we file, I won't be allowed to go to work to Mexico?
> The way I see it, your F-1 OPT continues even after the I-485, to its
> expiration date. It does not just stop. However, the moment the I-485
has
> been filed, you may not leave the U.S., even for a few hours, unless you
> have advance parole. If you leave the U.S. without advance parole, your
> I-485 is deemed abandoned.
> Is there
> > some kind of permit that allow me to continue working in Juarez? Is
> > this a case of advance parole?
> Yes.
> Just one thing - if your employer gets H-1B status for you, you can travel
> using the H-1B status, and you don't need advance parole. However, you
> would have to get an H-1B visa stamp on the first trip outside the U.S.
See
> http://www.shusterman.com/hl-99regs.html.
> If this is so, Is there a period
> > between my aplication and the acceptance of "my traveling" to Mexico,
> > such that I won't be allowed to go to Mexico? (Of course, I mean going
> > to Mexico and return safely the same day to my home in El Paso). Does
> > anybody know how does this work? When I go to Juarez, I use my
> > passport and F1 visa to come back to the US, if filing to AOS then I
> > can't use my F1 anymore?
> Correct, if you file Form I-485, you cannot use your F-1 any more for
> travel. You will have to wait for the approval of the I-131, application
> for advance parole. http://members.aol.com/MDUdall/instimes.htm says
that
> advance parole is taking 120 days at INS El Paso. It is possible that you
> could get expedited processing of your I-131; you would need a strong
letter
> from your employer, probably.
One more thing. If you use advance parole to travel to Mexico and return,
you must have your EAD (based on the I-485) approved. The reason for this
is that when you use advance parole to enter the U.S., your status is
"paroled." It is not F-1 any more. Therefore you must have your EAD (based
on the I-485).