Shortage of nurses in the US
Nov 14th 2002, 4:57 pm
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
mared13 wrote:
> Right to work state,piss poor wages and bennies, no job
> security, no pensions.... plus former slave state war losers
> ( Jessy Helms )..... and that's why N.C. sucks for RNs new
> hires......... asshole
That's why I work in SOUTH CAROLINA, "Asshole". And while I
agree your new sig fits you, aren't you being a little hard on
yourself? Most of us have already noted you're dumber than a
bag of rocks. There's no need for self-flagelation.
If I were you, I'd commit suicide.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
> Right to work state,piss poor wages and bennies, no job
> security, no pensions.... plus former slave state war losers
> ( Jessy Helms )..... and that's why N.C. sucks for RNs new
> hires......... asshole
That's why I work in SOUTH CAROLINA, "Asshole". And while I
agree your new sig fits you, aren't you being a little hard on
yourself? Most of us have already noted you're dumber than a
bag of rocks. There's no need for self-flagelation.
If I were you, I'd commit suicide.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
Nov 15th 2002, 2:18 am
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
And here I was thinking s/h/it was only as dumb as a fencepost. Thanks for
clearing that up, Mort. :}
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mared13 wrote:
> > Right to work state,piss poor wages and bennies, no job
> > security, no pensions.... plus former slave state war losers
> > ( Jessy Helms )..... and that's why N.C. sucks for RNs new
> > hires......... asshole
> That's why I work in SOUTH CAROLINA, "Asshole". And while I
> agree your new sig fits you, aren't you being a little hard on
> yourself? Most of us have already noted you're dumber than a
> bag of rocks. There's no need for self-flagelation.
> If I were you, I'd commit suicide.
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
clearing that up, Mort. :}
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mared13 wrote:
> > Right to work state,piss poor wages and bennies, no job
> > security, no pensions.... plus former slave state war losers
> > ( Jessy Helms )..... and that's why N.C. sucks for RNs new
> > hires......... asshole
> That's why I work in SOUTH CAROLINA, "Asshole". And while I
> agree your new sig fits you, aren't you being a little hard on
> yourself? Most of us have already noted you're dumber than a
> bag of rocks. There's no need for self-flagelation.
> If I were you, I'd commit suicide.
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
Nov 15th 2002, 2:43 am
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's every
day as an "insurance policy."
There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of staff
unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions either!
In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations abusing
their economic superiority in the name of profits....
--
Mark Gaines M.S. BSN RN RRT EMT-B
Registered Nurse/Respiratory Care Practitioner
[email protected]
http://home.earthlink.net/~dansegypsy/index.htm
SECURITY CODE MCA-01
agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's every
day as an "insurance policy."
There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of staff
unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions either!
In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations abusing
their economic superiority in the name of profits....
--
Mark Gaines M.S. BSN RN RRT EMT-B
Registered Nurse/Respiratory Care Practitioner
[email protected]
http://home.earthlink.net/~dansegypsy/index.htm
SECURITY CODE MCA-01
Nov 15th 2002, 6:16 am
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
"James Donovan" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't let anyone fool you. There is NO shortage of nurses in the US for
the
> right price.
> I have many friends who are qualified, experienced and licensed nurses and
> many of them cannot find work.
I hear this kind of thing, and it's difficult to square it with other facts.
UCLA has had dozens of nurse positions continuously available for years.
From what I've heard, UCLA has pretty good wages and benefits; their nurses
are unionized. Right now there are about 60 open nurse positions listed on
the website. Some have a salary range in 6 figures.
Perhaps your friends are unwilling to move from their community? That can
be limiting.
The only reason foreign nurses are hires is
> because the hospital can pay them less than American citizens. It's the
> same thing with I.T. and it's the same thing with any other profession
> that's filled with H-1B's.
news:[email protected]...
> Don't let anyone fool you. There is NO shortage of nurses in the US for
the
> right price.
> I have many friends who are qualified, experienced and licensed nurses and
> many of them cannot find work.
I hear this kind of thing, and it's difficult to square it with other facts.
UCLA has had dozens of nurse positions continuously available for years.
From what I've heard, UCLA has pretty good wages and benefits; their nurses
are unionized. Right now there are about 60 open nurse positions listed on
the website. Some have a salary range in 6 figures.
Perhaps your friends are unwilling to move from their community? That can
be limiting.
The only reason foreign nurses are hires is
> because the hospital can pay them less than American citizens. It's the
> same thing with I.T. and it's the same thing with any other profession
> that's filled with H-1B's.
Nov 15th 2002, 6:46 am
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:43:47 -0800, Mark Gaines wrote:
> I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's
> every day as an "insurance policy."
>
> There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of
> staff unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions
> either!
>
> In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations
> abusing their economic superiority in the name of profits....
>
>
Not so much in the name of profits, but in the name of affordable (yeah,
right!) health insurance premiums. I'd love to have great, well-paid and
well-treated nurses. But when this means paying $2000 a month in health
insurance instead of $400, I might have to rethink whether it is better to
pay the rent and buy food or pay for this level of nurse staffing.
> I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's
> every day as an "insurance policy."
>
> There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of
> staff unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions
> either!
>
> In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations
> abusing their economic superiority in the name of profits....
>
>
Not so much in the name of profits, but in the name of affordable (yeah,
right!) health insurance premiums. I'd love to have great, well-paid and
well-treated nurses. But when this means paying $2000 a month in health
insurance instead of $400, I might have to rethink whether it is better to
pay the rent and buy food or pay for this level of nurse staffing.
Nov 15th 2002, 10:06 am
#21
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:43:47 -0800, Mark Gaines wrote:
>
> > I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> > agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> > short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> > conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> > off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's
> > every day as an "insurance policy."
> >
> > There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> > etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> > exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of
> > staff unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions
> > either!
> >
> > In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> > necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> > impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations
> > abusing their economic superiority in the name of profits....
> >
> >
> Not so much in the name of profits, but in the name of affordable (yeah,
> right!) health insurance premiums. I'd love to have great, well-paid and
> well-treated nurses. But when this means paying $2000 a month in health
> insurance instead of $400, I might have to rethink whether it is better to
> pay the rent and buy food or pay for this level of nurse staffing.
Ah! So you're laboring under the delusion that skyrocketing insurance
premiums are caused by highly-paid nurses? Pretty funny!! Thanks for
the giggle.
>
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:43:47 -0800, Mark Gaines wrote:
>
> > I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> > agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> > short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> > conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> > off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's
> > every day as an "insurance policy."
> >
> > There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> > etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> > exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of
> > staff unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions
> > either!
> >
> > In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> > necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> > impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations
> > abusing their economic superiority in the name of profits....
> >
> >
> Not so much in the name of profits, but in the name of affordable (yeah,
> right!) health insurance premiums. I'd love to have great, well-paid and
> well-treated nurses. But when this means paying $2000 a month in health
> insurance instead of $400, I might have to rethink whether it is better to
> pay the rent and buy food or pay for this level of nurse staffing.
Ah! So you're laboring under the delusion that skyrocketing insurance
premiums are caused by highly-paid nurses? Pretty funny!! Thanks for
the giggle.
Nov 15th 2002, 11:45 am
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
That's probably because your employer won't pay them the prevailing wage!
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> James Donovan wrote:
> > Don't let anyone fool you. There is NO shortage of nurses in
> > the US for the right price.
> >
> > I have many friends who are qualified, experienced and
> > licensed nurses and many of them cannot find work.
> Send them to South Carolina. You could have fooled me; we sure
> seem to have a shortage on my floor.
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> James Donovan wrote:
> > Don't let anyone fool you. There is NO shortage of nurses in
> > the US for the right price.
> >
> > I have many friends who are qualified, experienced and
> > licensed nurses and many of them cannot find work.
> Send them to South Carolina. You could have fooled me; we sure
> seem to have a shortage on my floor.
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
Nov 15th 2002, 11:45 am
#23
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
"Sylvia Ottemoeller" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "James Donovan" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Don't let anyone fool you. There is NO shortage of nurses in the US for
> the
> > right price.
> >
> > I have many friends who are qualified, experienced and licensed nurses
and
> > many of them cannot find work.
> I hear this kind of thing, and it's difficult to square it with other
facts.
> UCLA has had dozens of nurse positions continuously available for years.
So called "facts" can be made up or even outright ignored. Case in point -
in this economy, even after the dotcom crash and 9-11, with rising
unemployment and the situation not getting any better, companies *still* are
importing H-1B's en masse.
Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no longer
manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
they are moving offshore to lower costs.
news:[email protected]...
> "James Donovan" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Don't let anyone fool you. There is NO shortage of nurses in the US for
> the
> > right price.
> >
> > I have many friends who are qualified, experienced and licensed nurses
and
> > many of them cannot find work.
> I hear this kind of thing, and it's difficult to square it with other
facts.
> UCLA has had dozens of nurse positions continuously available for years.
So called "facts" can be made up or even outright ignored. Case in point -
in this economy, even after the dotcom crash and 9-11, with rising
unemployment and the situation not getting any better, companies *still* are
importing H-1B's en masse.
Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no longer
manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
they are moving offshore to lower costs.
Nov 15th 2002, 11:45 am
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
It's a vicious circle. When you keep wages down, your wages will eventually
be affected when more foreigners who work for cheap are imported into YOUR
profession. Pretty soon you won't be making enough money to pay that
"affordable" health insurance premium. I would prefer to pay more for
health insurance and preserve my wage level instead of selling out America
to foreigners.
"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:43:47 -0800, Mark Gaines wrote:
> > I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> > agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> > short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> > conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> > off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's
> > every day as an "insurance policy."
> >
> > There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> > etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> > exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of
> > staff unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions
> > either!
> >
> > In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> > necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> > impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations
> > abusing their economic superiority in the name of profits....
> >
> >
> Not so much in the name of profits, but in the name of affordable (yeah,
> right!) health insurance premiums. I'd love to have great, well-paid and
> well-treated nurses. But when this means paying $2000 a month in health
> insurance instead of $400, I might have to rethink whether it is better to
> pay the rent and buy food or pay for this level of nurse staffing.
be affected when more foreigners who work for cheap are imported into YOUR
profession. Pretty soon you won't be making enough money to pay that
"affordable" health insurance premium. I would prefer to pay more for
health insurance and preserve my wage level instead of selling out America
to foreigners.
"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:43:47 -0800, Mark Gaines wrote:
> > I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> > agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> > short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> > conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> > off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's
> > every day as an "insurance policy."
> >
> > There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> > etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> > exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of
> > staff unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions
> > either!
> >
> > In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> > necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> > impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations
> > abusing their economic superiority in the name of profits....
> >
> >
> Not so much in the name of profits, but in the name of affordable (yeah,
> right!) health insurance premiums. I'd love to have great, well-paid and
> well-treated nurses. But when this means paying $2000 a month in health
> insurance instead of $400, I might have to rethink whether it is better to
> pay the rent and buy food or pay for this level of nurse staffing.
Nov 15th 2002, 12:51 pm
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
In article , "James Donovan"
wrote:
>Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no longer
>manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
>about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
>they are moving offshore to lower costs.
Finally? I can remember them telling people that when the Japanese were
doing what China is now in the 60s.
--------
"[W]e made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear,
in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We appointed
all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals
to edit the newspapers."
--Robert E. Lee
wrote:
>Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no longer
>manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
>about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
>they are moving offshore to lower costs.
Finally? I can remember them telling people that when the Japanese were
doing what China is now in the 60s.
--------
"[W]e made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear,
in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We appointed
all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals
to edit the newspapers."
--Robert E. Lee
Nov 15th 2002, 1:17 pm
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
"Mark Gaines" wrote in message news:...
> I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's every
> day as an "insurance policy."
>
> There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of staff
> unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions either!
>
> In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations abusing
> their economic superiority in the name of profits....
Yes. I agree with the double booking statement. The same has occurred
to me on at least two occassions. I, also, agree with the rest of your
post. Thank you for posting the same.
> I am seeing the growing practice of certain facilities "double booking"
> agency staff, and canceling the agency nurse. They run their own staff
> short, refuse to pay decent wages or provide decent benefits and working
> conditions. The "extra" RN or LPN is booked just in case there is a call
> off. I saw Texas Women's & Children's/Columbia HCA do this with RT's every
> day as an "insurance policy."
>
> There is no shortage of good, experienced, qualified nurses, RT's, PT's,
> etc. There is no shortage of cheap, miserable employers who intend to
> exploit their staff and patients for profit! There is no shortage of staff
> unwilling to work under these unsafe and miserable conditions either!
>
> In the long run it will destroy the system and any trust that is so
> necessary for medicine to function. Trust is a fragile thing that can be
> impossible to restore once violated by the health care corporations abusing
> their economic superiority in the name of profits....
Yes. I agree with the double booking statement. The same has occurred
to me on at least two occassions. I, also, agree with the rest of your
post. Thank you for posting the same.
Nov 16th 2002, 12:19 am
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
I like that quote from Marse Robert.
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article , "James Donovan"
> wrote:
> >Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no
longer
> >manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
> >about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
> >they are moving offshore to lower costs.
> >
> Finally? I can remember them telling people that when the Japanese were
> doing what China is now in the 60s.
> --------
> "[W]e made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear,
> in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We
appointed
> all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals
> to edit the newspapers."
> --Robert E. Lee
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article , "James Donovan"
> wrote:
> >Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no
longer
> >manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
> >about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
> >they are moving offshore to lower costs.
> >
> Finally? I can remember them telling people that when the Japanese were
> doing what China is now in the 60s.
> --------
> "[W]e made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear,
> in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We
appointed
> all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals
> to edit the newspapers."
> --Robert E. Lee
Nov 16th 2002, 12:24 am
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
I like that quote from Marse Robert.
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article , "James Donovan"
> wrote:
> >Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no
longer
> >manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
> >about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
> >they are moving offshore to lower costs.
> >
> Finally? I can remember them telling people that when the Japanese were
> doing what China is now in the 60s.
> --------
> "[W]e made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear,
> in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We
appointed
> all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals
> to edit the newspapers."
> --Robert E. Lee
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article , "James Donovan"
> wrote:
> >Bill Gates recently expanded his operations in India, Good Year is no
longer
> >manufacturing tires in the US. It seems pretty clear to me what it's all
> >about, and it's at the point where some companies are even admitting that
> >they are moving offshore to lower costs.
> >
> Finally? I can remember them telling people that when the Japanese were
> doing what China is now in the 60s.
> --------
> "[W]e made a great mistake in the beginning of our struggle, and I fear,
> in spite of all we can do, it will prove to be a fatal mistake. We
appointed
> all our worst generals to command our armies, and all our best generals
> to edit the newspapers."
> --Robert E. Lee
Nov 16th 2002, 2:32 pm
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
James Donovan wrote:
>
> It's a vicious circle. When you keep wages down, your wages will eventually
> be affected when more foreigners who work for cheap are imported into YOUR
> profession. Pretty soon you won't be making enough money to pay that
> "affordable" health insurance premium.
Really? It's a worldwide economy. For US technology companies to be able
to compete in the worldwide market, are you suggesting they can continue
to main a high percentage of higher waged US employees, or do you think
they need workers located in foreign countries? If my employer's
insurance rates go up, would they be more or less likely to send work
overseas. As I type this, I know full well of my employer's increasing
dependence on workers living in foreign countries. Yes, I would rather
have more foreign employees move here than see all of our jobs end up
there.
>
> It's a vicious circle. When you keep wages down, your wages will eventually
> be affected when more foreigners who work for cheap are imported into YOUR
> profession. Pretty soon you won't be making enough money to pay that
> "affordable" health insurance premium.
Really? It's a worldwide economy. For US technology companies to be able
to compete in the worldwide market, are you suggesting they can continue
to main a high percentage of higher waged US employees, or do you think
they need workers located in foreign countries? If my employer's
insurance rates go up, would they be more or less likely to send work
overseas. As I type this, I know full well of my employer's increasing
dependence on workers living in foreign countries. Yes, I would rather
have more foreign employees move here than see all of our jobs end up
there.
Nov 16th 2002, 4:59 pm
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shortage of nurses in the US
Quit taking those stupid pills......... asshole..................
"mrtravel" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> James Donovan wrote:
> >
> > It's a vicious circle. When you keep wages down, your wages will
eventually
> > be affected when more foreigners who work for cheap are imported into
YOUR
> > profession. Pretty soon you won't be making enough money to pay that
> > "affordable" health insurance premium.
> Really? It's a worldwide economy. For US technology companies to be able
> to compete in the worldwide market, are you suggesting they can continue
> to main a high percentage of higher waged US employees, or do you think
> they need workers located in foreign countries? If my employer's
> insurance rates go up, would they be more or less likely to send work
> overseas. As I type this, I know full well of my employer's increasing
> dependence on workers living in foreign countries. Yes, I would rather
> have more foreign employees move here than see all of our jobs end up
> there.
"mrtravel" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> James Donovan wrote:
> >
> > It's a vicious circle. When you keep wages down, your wages will
eventually
> > be affected when more foreigners who work for cheap are imported into
YOUR
> > profession. Pretty soon you won't be making enough money to pay that
> > "affordable" health insurance premium.
> Really? It's a worldwide economy. For US technology companies to be able
> to compete in the worldwide market, are you suggesting they can continue
> to main a high percentage of higher waged US employees, or do you think
> they need workers located in foreign countries? If my employer's
> insurance rates go up, would they be more or less likely to send work
> overseas. As I type this, I know full well of my employer's increasing
> dependence on workers living in foreign countries. Yes, I would rather
> have more foreign employees move here than see all of our jobs end up
> there.
