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Old Nov 18th 2003, 10:55 pm
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Originally posted by jeffreyhy
Steffi,

You've identified the issue exactly - you were thinking differently from the CIS adjudicator.

Now answer this question: who is it that is making the decisions on the case - you, or the adjudicator?

Hopefully this will give you an insight as to how to read and answer the various forms. A stranger who know nothing about you is trying to learn something, so answer in a way that clearly tells him the information.

Regards, JEff
Again, technically it doesn't state anywhere on form I-129F that "none" should be used...it only states to put "N/A" where something does not apply. I'm not telling him to use "N/A", and I would hope that people have learned not to after reading this board...but I am saying that technically it doesn not state anywhere on I-129F that "none" needs to be used.
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Old Nov 18th 2003, 11:14 pm
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Steffi,

"technically" has nothing to do with anything.

The questions are there to elicit information. N/A rarely provides any useful information. It is always best to give an answer that does provide information.

Regards, JEff

Originally posted by Steffi
Again, technically it doesn't state anywhere on form I-129F that "none" should be used...it only states to put "N/A" where something does not apply. I'm not telling him to use "N/A", and I would hope that people have learned not to after reading this board...but I am saying that technically it doesn not state anywhere on I-129F that "none" needs to be used.
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Old Nov 18th 2003, 11:19 pm
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I bet you're glad all this is behind you aren't you Steffi.

I am picking up some great tips though. I'd never have thought of half of this stuff.
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Old Nov 19th 2003, 2:55 am
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Matthew Udall wrote:

    > Originally posted by Steffi
    >> "Answer all questions fully and accurately. If any item does not
    >> apply, please write 'N/A.'
    > Again, one must be legally free to marry the beneficiary, therefore
    > that question is “alwaysâ€? applicable to an I-129f (K-1) case as one
    > must either give evidence showing that the prior marriage ended or
    > state that there was no prior spouse.

Not from a "this doesn't apply to me since I was never married" sense.

In any event, if they simply need to clear up an assumption it seems to
me that a simple, quick phone call asking the petitioner (if that be the
case) "Did you mean you were never married when you specified N/A" could
easily clear up the matter in a matter of minutes but no doubt you'll
tell me that that is not doable and instead a few weeks/months delay is
much better!

    > N/A dodges the question, and is not a full and accurate answer (plus,
    > if you want me to get really ridiculous here, I suppose one could have
    > been married to an ex by the name of NIA :-).

You could as easily have been marrried married to "None" (or a badly
written "Mona").

    > History clearly shows that putting N/A for prior spouses, when there
    > was no prior spouse can and does trigger RFE’S in some cases. Use N/A
    > at your own risk.

History should you, an immigration attorney, that but does nothing for
first time layman filers. Again, this is an obvious mistake/oversite
that should not carry such a high penalty. Even a notation specifically
on the "Prior Marriages" box stating "If you have never been married
then please enter 'None'" or a checkbox for never been married is
preferrable. No doubt you'll say this is infeasible (as we remember the
spat we had about the AOS forms having the wrong fee printed on them...).

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Old Nov 19th 2003, 2:58 am
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jeffreyhy wrote:

    > Steffi,
    > You've identified the issue exactly - you were thinking differently
    > from the CIS adjudicator.
    > Now answer this question: who is it that is making the decisions on
    > the case - you, or the adjudicator?
    > Hopefully this will give you an insight as to how to read and answer
    > the various forms. A stranger who know nothing about you is trying to
    > learn something, so answer in a way that clearly tells him the
    > information.

How many people who have filled out N/A instead of None for prior
marriages do you think actually had prior marriages?
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Old Nov 19th 2003, 3:00 am
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jeffreyhy wrote:

    > Steffi,
    > "technically" has nothing to do with anything.

Ah contraire. The reason the RFE is issued is because "technically" you
didn't answer the question to their satisfaction.
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Old Nov 19th 2003, 3:58 pm
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Originally posted by jeffreyhy
Steffi,

"technically" has nothing to do with anything.

The questions are there to elicit information. N/A rarely provides any useful information. It is always best to give an answer that does provide information.

Regards, JEff
That still doesn't change the fact that it doesn't state anywhere on form I-129F that "none" should be written.



Originally posted by sibsie
I bet you're glad all this is behind you aren't you Steffi.

I am picking up some great tips though. I'd never have thought of half of this stuff.
I know, VERY glad indeed! *L* And especially glad that the officer was obviously thinking the same way WE were.
I would have never thought of these things either...I guess hence the reason I wrote N/A instead of "none" like the instructions told me to.
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Old Nov 19th 2003, 4:04 pm
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Andrew,

Again "technically" has nothing to do with it. The question was not answered to their satisfaction. Period. The answer given did not provide the information requested.

What is it with this obsession for adjectives?

Regards, JEff

Originally posted by Andrew Defaria
jeffreyhy wrote:

    > Steffi,
    > "technically" has nothing to do with anything.

Ah contraire. The reason the RFE is issued is because "technically" you
didn't answer the question to their satisfaction.
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Old Nov 19th 2003, 5:39 pm
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Hello Jorge,

I'm sorry to hear you have gotten an RFE for that kind of thing.
You made me go check my application i sent in on nov 5 and
i guess i made the same mistake, even after reading this board.
I have N/A for question 10, however i put None for question 11.

My g325-a on the other hand shows NONE for former spouses
questions, i'm hoping they will not give me an RFE for that, but reading
your experience made me less hopefull.

I hope everything turns out well,

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Old Nov 20th 2003, 5:35 am
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jeffreyhy wrote:

    > Again "technically" has nothing to do with it. The question was not
    > answered to their satisfaction. Period. The answer given did not
    > provide the information requested.

Most people call this a technically. YMMV.

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Old Nov 20th 2003, 11:07 pm
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Thanks for the sympathy.

I mailed in my information on Nov 18 and Nebraska received it on the 19th, and today, the 20th of November, they have acknowledged receipt of my information on the USCIS site.

The funny thing is that they say 150-180 days, but since preliminary processing was completed, it should take less time.

Again, I will notify the board when I hear back from USCIS.

And I will update my timeline in my signature.

Good to see that my experience is helping others...
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Old Nov 20th 2003, 11:13 pm
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Thanks for the sympathy.

I mailed in my information on Nov 18 and Nebraska received it on the 19th, and today, the 20th of November, they have acknowledged receipt of my information on the USCIS site.

The funny thing is that they say 150-180 days, but since preliminary processing was completed, it should take less time.

Again, I will notify the board when I hear back from USCIS.

And I will update my timeline in my signature.

Good to see that my experience is helping others...
From what I've heard people get their NOA2 pretty soon after they send back their RFE, so hopefully we'll be able to tell you "congrats" soon.
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Andrew,

Exactly my point.

Regards, JEff

Originally posted by Andrew Defaria
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