Renewing our Green Cards
Dec 5th 2006, 2:10 am
#16
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Re: Renewing our Green Cards
On 4 Dec 2006 18:09:43 -0800, "J. J. Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Ar*t wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >Ar-t wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
>> >>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
>> >>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
>> >>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
>> >>> Residence" for a reason.
>> >>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
>> >>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
>> >>> See, e.g.,
>> >>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
>> >>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
>> >>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
>> >>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
>> >>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
>> >>
>> >> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
>> >>
>> >
>> >So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
>> >holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
>> >to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
>> >seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
>> >the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
>> >preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
>> >so."
>> Who mentioned renewing green cards?
>Jonny, the guy who asked the question. Remember him? That's why the
>article you posted has the subject line "Re: Renewing our Green Cards".
>> We're talking about re-entering
>> the US with an unexpired green card.
>You may be. Everyone else is talking about Jonny's desire to renew his
>family's Green Cards.
>> ...
>> >Joe isn't the asshole.
>> He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
>> asshole.
>If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
>immigration law than almost all US born citizens.
It also guarantees that he's paranoid about US Immigration procedures.
>Ar*t wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >Ar-t wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
>> >>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
>> >>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
>> >>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
>> >>> Residence" for a reason.
>> >>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
>> >>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
>> >>> See, e.g.,
>> >>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
>> >>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
>> >>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
>> >>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
>> >>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
>> >>
>> >> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
>> >>
>> >
>> >So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
>> >holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
>> >to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
>> >seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
>> >the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
>> >preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
>> >so."
>> Who mentioned renewing green cards?
>Jonny, the guy who asked the question. Remember him? That's why the
>article you posted has the subject line "Re: Renewing our Green Cards".
>> We're talking about re-entering
>> the US with an unexpired green card.
>You may be. Everyone else is talking about Jonny's desire to renew his
>family's Green Cards.
>> ...
>> >Joe isn't the asshole.
>> He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
>> asshole.
>If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
>immigration law than almost all US born citizens.
It also guarantees that he's paranoid about US Immigration procedures.
Dec 5th 2006, 2:10 am
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Re: Renewing our Green Cards
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:21:37 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>J. J. Farrell wrote on 12/04/06 18:09:
>>> ...
>>>> Joe isn't the asshole.
>>> He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
>>> asshole.
>>
>> If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
>> immigration law than almost all US born citizens.
>It is always funny to see how some trolls jump to some weird conclusion based on
>what I post or my name or what have you.
>Other trolls have put my origins pretty much all over the world, generally at
>locations they have some prejudice against. Standard modus operandi for racist
>trolls. This particular troll must feel really threatened by his neighbors from
>developing countries...
It's always funny how paranoid immigrant assholes jump to some weird
conclusions.
>People who have read my posts over the years most likely have an idea where I'm
>from, and people who don't know don't need to know.
You're still a paranoid asshole, wherever you're from.
>J. J. Farrell wrote on 12/04/06 18:09:
>>> ...
>>>> Joe isn't the asshole.
>>> He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
>>> asshole.
>>
>> If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
>> immigration law than almost all US born citizens.
>It is always funny to see how some trolls jump to some weird conclusion based on
>what I post or my name or what have you.
>Other trolls have put my origins pretty much all over the world, generally at
>locations they have some prejudice against. Standard modus operandi for racist
>trolls. This particular troll must feel really threatened by his neighbors from
>developing countries...
It's always funny how paranoid immigrant assholes jump to some weird
conclusions.
>People who have read my posts over the years most likely have an idea where I'm
>from, and people who don't know don't need to know.
You're still a paranoid asshole, wherever you're from.
Dec 5th 2006, 2:11 am
#18
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Re: Renewing our Green Cards
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:56:41 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Ar*t wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ar-t wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
>>>>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
>>>>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
>>>>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
>>>>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
>>>>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
>>>>> Residence" for a reason.
>>>>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
>>>>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
>>>>> See, e.g.,
>>>>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
>>>>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
>>>>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
>>>>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
>>>>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
>>>> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
>>> So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
>>> holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
>>> to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
>>> seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
>>> the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
>>> preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
>>> so."
>>
>> Who mentioned renewing green cards? We're talking about re-entering
>The original poster in this thread mentioned 'renewing' a greencard
Yes, you're right. But it was in the context of living outside the US
and making occasional return visits.
>>> The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
>>> outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.
>>
>> Six months is better than a year, but the fact remains that vast
>> numbers still do this, for whatever reason.
>I wouldn't argue with that. Hopefully these people understand what is
>needed to 'preserve' residence in the US or they will eventually be
>caught. I hope the systems get better so that greencard holders who have
>no intention of living in the US will be denied the ability to visit a
>couple of times a year
And until such time it will continue to go on much like it always has.
wrote:
>Ar*t wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ar-t wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
>>>>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
>>>>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
>>>>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
>>>>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
>>>>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
>>>>> Residence" for a reason.
>>>>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
>>>>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
>>>>> See, e.g.,
>>>>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
>>>>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
>>>>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
>>>>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
>>>>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
>>>> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
>>> So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
>>> holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
>>> to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
>>> seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
>>> the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
>>> preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
>>> so."
>>
>> Who mentioned renewing green cards? We're talking about re-entering
>The original poster in this thread mentioned 'renewing' a greencard
Yes, you're right. But it was in the context of living outside the US
and making occasional return visits.
>>> The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
>>> outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.
>>
>> Six months is better than a year, but the fact remains that vast
>> numbers still do this, for whatever reason.
>I wouldn't argue with that. Hopefully these people understand what is
>needed to 'preserve' residence in the US or they will eventually be
>caught. I hope the systems get better so that greencard holders who have
>no intention of living in the US will be denied the ability to visit a
>couple of times a year
And until such time it will continue to go on much like it always has.
Dec 5th 2006, 3:22 am
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Re: Renewing our Green Cards
Art- wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2006 18:09:43 -0800, "J. J. Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
[ ... ]
> It also guarantees that he's paranoid about US Immigration procedures.
>
Hey, screw it. It's only a greencard, right? If an "immigrant" has one
and lives outside the US most of the time it's not like it's really
important anyway.
> On 4 Dec 2006 18:09:43 -0800, "J. J. Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
[ ... ]
> It also guarantees that he's paranoid about US Immigration procedures.
>
Hey, screw it. It's only a greencard, right? If an "immigrant" has one
and lives outside the US most of the time it's not like it's really
important anyway.
Dec 5th 2006, 3:30 am
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Re: Renewing our Green Cards
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:22:23 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Art- wrote:
>> On 4 Dec 2006 18:09:43 -0800, "J. J. Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>[ ... ]
>> It also guarantees that he's paranoid about US Immigration procedures.
>>
>Hey, screw it. It's only a greencard, right? If an "immigrant" has one
>and lives outside the US most of the time it's not like it's really
>important anyway.
Most sensible thing you've said.
wrote:
>Art- wrote:
>> On 4 Dec 2006 18:09:43 -0800, "J. J. Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>[ ... ]
>> It also guarantees that he's paranoid about US Immigration procedures.
>>
>Hey, screw it. It's only a greencard, right? If an "immigrant" has one
>and lives outside the US most of the time it's not like it's really
>important anyway.
Most sensible thing you've said.
Dec 5th 2006, 6:31 am
#21
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Re: Renewing our Green Cards
> You should have said so -- you can file the I-90 when you get back -- or
> do it on-line just before you leave.
> BTW, the re-entry permit booklet is not a guarantee of readmission --
> but usually its no problem.
Okay, the REP is no gurantee for reentry. These days nothing is, not
even a U.S. citizenship (see
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGQ5KPVV91.DTL)
In any event, under what circumstances can a person be denied entry on
an REP? Do you know of such cases? And I am not talking about people
with criminal backgrounds, tax evaders or those on a terrorist lists. I
am more interested in the circumstances a law abiding citizen that had
been temporarily living and working abroad returns on a valid REP
booklet to the U.S. to resume their permanent residency but is denied
entry because of "abandonment." Has it ever happened?
> do it on-line just before you leave.
> BTW, the re-entry permit booklet is not a guarantee of readmission --
> but usually its no problem.
Okay, the REP is no gurantee for reentry. These days nothing is, not
even a U.S. citizenship (see
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGQ5KPVV91.DTL)
In any event, under what circumstances can a person be denied entry on
an REP? Do you know of such cases? And I am not talking about people
with criminal backgrounds, tax evaders or those on a terrorist lists. I
am more interested in the circumstances a law abiding citizen that had
been temporarily living and working abroad returns on a valid REP
booklet to the U.S. to resume their permanent residency but is denied
entry because of "abandonment." Has it ever happened?
