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Old Dec 2nd 2006, 8:08 am
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Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
 
Old Dec 2nd 2006, 10:15 am
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jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:

    > Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    > which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    > are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    > would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
    >


As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
Residence" for a reason.
All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
See, e.g.,
http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html

-Joe
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For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
 
Old Dec 2nd 2006, 11:28 am
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**** YOU STAY OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
TOM CRUISE.
jonny wrote:
    > Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    > which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    > are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    > would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
 
Old Dec 2nd 2006, 10:47 pm
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:

    >jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
    >> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    >> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    >> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    >> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
    >>
    >As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
    >Residence" for a reason.
    >All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
    >It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
    >See, e.g.,
    >http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
    >http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
    >http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
    >http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
    >http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html

Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
 
Old Dec 3rd 2006, 3:35 am
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Ar-t wrote:
    > On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
    >>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    >>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    >>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    >>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
    >> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
    >> Residence" for a reason.
    >> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
    >> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
    >> See, e.g.,
    >> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
    >> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
    >> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
    >> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
    >> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
    >
    > Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
    >

So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
so."

Are greencard holders who live outside the US ever hassled at all on
return? These people shouldn't even have greencards if they don't live
permanently in the US. What's the point of having one?

Joe isn't the asshole. The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.
 
Old Dec 3rd 2006, 5:14 am
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The OP did not say under what circumstances he was living in Europe. Perhaps he is there working on expat terms for American interests, which might make a difference.

OP -- consult an immigration attorney in the US if you have not already, as your situation of "living in Europe at the moment" may prove problematic for you as far as keeping/renewing your GC goes.
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Old Dec 3rd 2006, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by Jonny
Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
Hi:

Leaving "abandonment" issues aside, an expired 10-year card is a valid boarding document for returning to the USA if you have been outside for less than a year. You might want to file the I-90 on-line shortly before your flight back -- that way you can show your card AND your I-90 filing.

Please note that I do see "abandonment" issues in your posting -- but you don't ask about that.
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Old Dec 3rd 2006, 7:09 am
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L D Jones wrote on 12/03/06 08:35:

    > Are greencard holders who live outside the US ever hassled at all on
    > return? These people shouldn't even have greencards if they don't live
    > permanently in the US. What's the point of having one?


Exactly. They are trying to have their cake and eat it, too.

    > Joe isn't the asshole. The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
    > outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.


The poster you answered to obviously is one of these conspiracy nuts.
He is the only one who is right, and anybody who dares to bother him with facts
is just conspiring with the US government against him. Paranoia galore... He
needs a new tinfoil hat...
Usenet attracts these types, since they can troll in relative anonymity.
Such trolls are not worth my time.
Anybody who has read my posts here over the years knows who the asshole is...
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Old Dec 4th 2006, 12:18 am
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:09:11 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:

    >L D Jones wrote on 12/03/06 08:35:
    >> Are greencard holders who live outside the US ever hassled at all on
    >> return? These people shouldn't even have greencards if they don't live
    >> permanently in the US. What's the point of having one?
    >Exactly. They are trying to have their cake and eat it, too.

Not just trying but succeeding.

    >> Joe isn't the asshole. The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
    >> outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.
    >The poster you answered to obviously is one of these conspiracy nuts.
    >He is the only one who is right, and anybody who dares to bother him with facts
    >is just conspiring with the US government against him. Paranoia galore... He
    >needs a new tinfoil hat...
    >Usenet attracts these types, since they can troll in relative anonymity.
    >Such trolls are not worth my time.
    >Anybody who has read my posts here over the years knows who the asshole is...

Anybody who disagrees with your paranoid viewpoints is a troll, right?
Yes, it's obvious the asshole is you, you paranoid Third World
immigrant bootlicker.
 
Old Dec 4th 2006, 12:19 am
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Ar-t wrote:
    >> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
    >>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    >>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    >>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    >>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
    >>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
    >>> Residence" for a reason.
    >>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
    >>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
    >>> See, e.g.,
    >>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
    >>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
    >>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
    >>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
    >>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
    >>
    >> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
    >>
    >So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
    >holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
    >to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
    >seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
    >the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
    >preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
    >so."

Who mentioned renewing green cards? We're talking about re-entering
the US with an unexpired green card. Renewing green cards which
expire is an entirely different issue.

    >Are greencard holders who live outside the US ever hassled at all on
    >return? These people shouldn't even have greencards if they don't live
    >permanently in the US. What's the point of having one?

It's an additional option. And, as I mentioned earlier, it enables
those who live in EU countries to avoid paying withholding taxes on
their offshore income (see European Savings Directive).

    >Joe isn't the asshole.

He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
asshole.

    >The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
    >outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.

Six months is better than a year, but the fact remains that vast
numbers still do this, for whatever reason.
 
Old Dec 4th 2006, 2:56 am
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Ar*t wrote:
    > On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Ar-t wrote:
    >>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
    >>>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    >>>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    >>>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    >>>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
    >>>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
    >>>> Residence" for a reason.
    >>>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
    >>>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
    >>>> See, e.g.,
    >>>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
    >>>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
    >>>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
    >>>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
    >>>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
    >>> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
    >> So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
    >> holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
    >> to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
    >> seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
    >> the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
    >> preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
    >> so."
    >
    > Who mentioned renewing green cards? We're talking about re-entering

The original poster in this thread mentioned 'renewing' a greencard

    >> The asshole is a permanent resident who lives
    >> outside the US and believes all he has to do is to show up once a year.
    >
    > Six months is better than a year, but the fact remains that vast
    > numbers still do this, for whatever reason.

I wouldn't argue with that. Hopefully these people understand what is
needed to 'preserve' residence in the US or they will eventually be
caught. I hope the systems get better so that greencard holders who have
no intention of living in the US will be denied the ability to visit a
couple of times a year
 
Old Dec 4th 2006, 1:09 pm
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Ar*t wrote:
    > On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:35:11 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > >Ar-t wrote:
    > >> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:15:36 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> jonny wrote on 12/02/06 13:08:
    > >>>
    > >>>> Does anyone know if its in any way possible to tell Immigration at
    > >>>> which time you would like to go in for the biometric appointment ? We
    > >>>> are living in Euroep at moment and , because of our son's school, it
    > >>>> would make life a lot easier if we could do this during summer holidays.
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>> As a Permanent Resident, you have to live in the US. It is called "Permanent
    > >>> Residence" for a reason.
    > >>> All trips abroad have to be temporary in nature.
    > >>> It is *not* and has *never* been enough to just travel to the US once in a while.
    > >>> See, e.g.,
    > >>> http://www.visalaw.com/01jan4/12jan401.html
    > >>> http://www.americanlaw.com/maintlpr.html
    > >>> http://antaoandchuang.com/i-keeping.html
    > >>> http://www.usvisanews.com/questions/...st090600.shtml (#4)
    > >>> http://www.murthy.com/news/UDirtra.html
    > >>
    > >> Again, the same bullshit from the resident paranoid immigrant asshole.
    > >>
    > >
    > >So what should this person do? Call up CIS and say "Hi, I'm a greencard
    > >holder and live in Europe. I'd like to renew my greencard now and want
    > >to schedule an appointment in July, what openings do you have?" This
    > >seems to be no problem, I guess. CIS will probably say "You live outside
    > >the US? No problem. We've got plenty of openings and remember, to
    > >preserve your US residency you only have to visit the US once a year or
    > >so."
    > Who mentioned renewing green cards?

Jonny, the guy who asked the question. Remember him? That's why the
article you posted has the subject line "Re: Renewing our Green Cards".

    > We're talking about re-entering
    > the US with an unexpired green card.

You may be. Everyone else is talking about Jonny's desire to renew his
family's Green Cards.

    > ...
    > >Joe isn't the asshole.
    > He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
    > asshole.

If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
immigration law than almost all US born citizens.
 
Old Dec 4th 2006, 2:21 pm
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J. J. Farrell wrote on 12/04/06 18:09:

    >> ...
    >>> Joe isn't the asshole.
    >> He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
    >> asshole.
    >
    > If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
    > immigration law than almost all US born citizens.

It is always funny to see how some trolls jump to some weird conclusion based on
what I post or my name or what have you.
Other trolls have put my origins pretty much all over the world, generally at
locations they have some prejudice against. Standard modus operandi for racist
trolls. This particular troll must feel really threatened by his neighbors from
developing countries...
People who have read my posts over the years most likely have an idea where I'm
from, and people who don't know don't need to know.

-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
 
Old Dec 4th 2006, 11:53 pm
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Thanks for all the answers, the serious ones and the rest. I live in
Europe at moment but I have a returning resident permit (so i can stay
out of the country for up to 2 years).






Joe Feise a �crit :

    > J. J. Farrell wrote on 12/04/06 18:09:
    > >> ...
    > >>> Joe isn't the asshole.
    > >> He's not just an asshole. He's a paranoid Third World immigrant
    > >> asshole.
    > >
    > > If he is an immigrant, that guarantees he knows vastly more about US
    > > immigration law than almost all US born citizens.
    > It is always funny to see how some trolls jump to some weird conclusion based on
    > what I post or my name or what have you.
    > Other trolls have put my origins pretty much all over the world, generally at
    > locations they have some prejudice against. Standard modus operandi for racist
    > trolls. This particular troll must feel really threatened by his neighbors from
    > developing countries...
    > People who have read my posts over the years most likely have an idea where I'm
    > from, and people who don't know don't need to know.
    > -Joe
    > --
    > I am not a lawyer.
    > For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
 
Old Dec 5th 2006, 2:06 am
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Originally Posted by Jonny
Thanks for all the answers, the serious ones and the rest. I live in
Europe at moment but I have a returning resident permit (so i can stay
out of the country for up to 2 years).
Hi:

You should have said so -- you can file the I-90 when you get back -- or do it on-line just before you leave.

BTW, the re-entry permit booklet is not a guarantee of readmission -- but usually its no problem.
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