Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Dec 1st 2008, 1:38 pm
#17
Sleepless In Chicago
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Never asked for it.
Dont really give a shit, if you think you have any real "rights" I LOL in your face.
I thought I'd quote this again for the "lol factor"
Absolute bollocks 
But keep on fighting, the sooner you realise that soylent green is people the better.
But keep on fighting, the sooner you realise that soylent green is people the better.
Dec 1st 2008, 1:40 pm
#19
Sleepless In Chicago
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
lol, again, I did'nt say it was a problem, are you seriously trying to prove a point?
If so you're about as sharp as a cucumber...
If so you're about as sharp as a cucumber...
Dec 1st 2008, 1:43 pm
#20
Septicity
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
It's not really a laughing matter. You've managed to unite the right and the left in this short thread, which is quite an achievement really. Any other rights you want to flush while you're at it?
Dec 1st 2008, 1:44 pm
#21
Peace onion
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Ingrate.
Yeah, but you have to aspire to ideals. Look at Giuliani's broken windows policy and how successful that was is in NY.
Don't be starting any nuanced !(black/white) shades of grey argument.
And damn scrummy they are too.
Yes! My first multiquote post.
Don't be starting any nuanced !(black/white) shades of grey argument.
Yes! My first multiquote post.
Dec 1st 2008, 1:45 pm
#22
Peace onion
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Dec 1st 2008, 1:49 pm
#23
Sleepless In Chicago
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Dec 1st 2008, 1:55 pm
#25
Septicity
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Where would you like me to start with privacy rights? The Constitution good enough for you? Start with Amendments I, III, IV, IX and XIV.
Dec 1st 2008, 2:21 pm
#26
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
I think that some of the people posting here might either enjoy or be educated by this video of a very animated Professor James Duane explaining why you should absolutely never ever talk to the police even if you (think you) are completely innocent.
Dec 2nd 2008, 12:25 am
#27
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Dec 2nd 2008, 1:33 am
#28
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
I think that some of the people posting here might either enjoy or be educated by this video of a very animated Professor James Duane explaining why you should absolutely never ever talk to the police even if you (think you) are completely innocent.
My word, the way that professor talks... At the risk of dating myself, I felt like a 33rpm record was being played at 45rpm
Dec 2nd 2008, 2:33 am
#29
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
Will the latest police abuses in the UK, it got me to wondering. What would happen if you refused to give a DNA sample?
I know under European law they can't compel you to give a DNA sample. If they tried to take one using force, could you defend yourself and then sue them?
I know under European law they can't compel you to give a DNA sample. If they tried to take one using force, could you defend yourself and then sue them?
This is my most recent favorite tricky sneaky clever way:
"After identifying him as a potential suspect, police conducted surveillance on Biela, who worked as a pipe fitter. Police interviewed him and asked whether he would submit a DNA sample, but he refused, they said.
Detectives then spoke with Biela's girlfriend, who allowed police to take a DNA sample from their 4-year-old son, Poehlman said.
Police said that sample matched the boy's father to DNA evidence found both at the scene where Denison's body was found and on a rear door of the student apartment from which she was abducted."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/26/...est/index.html
If the police ask for your DNA should you cooperate? Hell no - specially if you're guilty.
But, if they really really want to, they will very likely be able to get a hold of it eventually.
Dec 2nd 2008, 3:03 am
#30
Sursum corda
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Re: Refusing to give a DNA sample.
In the US if you refuse to give DNA then that should just be the end of it. It doesn't really work that way though. They will (1) get a warrant for your DNA or (2) find some other tricky sneaky clever way to get it.
This is my most recent favorite tricky sneaky clever way:
"After identifying him as a potential suspect, police conducted surveillance on Biela, who worked as a pipe fitter. Police interviewed him and asked whether he would submit a DNA sample, but he refused, they said.
Detectives then spoke with Biela's girlfriend, who allowed police to take a DNA sample from their 4-year-old son, Poehlman said.
Police said that sample matched the boy's father to DNA evidence found both at the scene where Denison's body was found and on a rear door of the student apartment from which she was abducted."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/26/...est/index.html
If the police ask for your DNA should you cooperate? Hell no - specially if you're guilty. But, if they really really want to, they will very likely be able to get a hold of it eventually.
This is my most recent favorite tricky sneaky clever way:
"After identifying him as a potential suspect, police conducted surveillance on Biela, who worked as a pipe fitter. Police interviewed him and asked whether he would submit a DNA sample, but he refused, they said.
Detectives then spoke with Biela's girlfriend, who allowed police to take a DNA sample from their 4-year-old son, Poehlman said.
Police said that sample matched the boy's father to DNA evidence found both at the scene where Denison's body was found and on a rear door of the student apartment from which she was abducted."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/26/...est/index.html
If the police ask for your DNA should you cooperate? Hell no - specially if you're guilty.
But, if they really really want to, they will very likely be able to get a hold of it eventually.I saw them get it from a soda can or something on SVU.
