Lucy

"doolaly17" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > the visa waiver program. Without it, I would not be allowed to see my
    > parents nor my fiance, because I have already been denied any other
    > sort of visa for the US. Please don't start breaking rules for
    > yourself, because if everyone did this, the visa waiver program would
    > be halted immediatly, and innocent by standers like myself would be
    > the ones who suffer.

Since people who have been denied visas are not eligible for the visa waiver
program, it sounds like you are jepoardising the program just as much as the
OP.

Lucy

scrubbedexpat099

It is quite possible to be refused a B1 visa if you qualify otherwise for the VWP because you would have a hard job justifying why you needed 6 months instead of 3.

If US Gov were concerned about people AoS after coming in on VWP they could have easily prevented it by not allowing it.

The rules are the rules, we did not write them nor vote for those that did.

For one person to do or not do something for some unproven questionable greater good makes no sense.

Hnchoksi

    >Subject: Re: Question on marrying while in the states...
    >From: Rete member167@british_expats.com
    >Date: 8/18/2004 4:31 PM Eastern Standard Time
    >Message-id: <[email protected]>
    >> I also meant to add that changing your staus whilst on a visa waiver,
    >> aside from a possible deportation, may also get you into serious
    >> trouble with authorities.
    >> The Visa waiver specifically states that you MUST NOT try to change
    >> your status while in the US on this program.
    >> Also, as a side note, and I don't wish to sound rude...but there are
    >> some of us whose relationships depend on the "good-willed" nature of
    >> the visa waiver program. Without it, I would not be allowed to see my
    >> parents nor my fiance, because I have already been denied any other
    >> sort of visa for the US. Please don't start breaking rules for
    >> yourself, because if everyone did this, the visa waiver program would
    >> be halted immediatly, and innocent by standers like myself would be
    >> the ones who suffer.
    >There is always one in every crowd.
    >While it is wrong to commit fraud upon entry to the US, i.e. lying and
    >marrying when the intent to marry was the reason for entry, it is not a
    >criminal act to marry while here and it is not a criminal act to apply
    >for adjustment of status.
    >You can be denied adjustment if they found you had committed fraud at
    >the POE or if they feel your marriage is not valid.

What if they married, then the beneficiary went back home and waited to do
consular processing? There may be problems with AOS, but does CP pose the same
risk?

Also, would such an incident then impact the beneficiary's citizenship
application in the future?

Doolaly17

Lucy, I was told by the consular office that the VWP is the only way I
am currently legally able to see my family (and fiance). So although
I was denied a B1 I am still able to travel on the VWP. This is why I
get a little nervy around people who even consider abusing the WVP,
which specifically states you must not attempt to adjust your status
whilst travelling on this program.

If the VWP was to end, I could not see the people closest to me.

scrubbedexpat099

What if they married, then the beneficiary went back home and waited to do
consular processing? There may be problems with AOS, but does CP pose the same risk?

Also, would such an incident then impact the beneficiary's citizenship
application in the future?[/QUOTE]

There is no issue with marrying on a VWP and then leaving and doing a K3, an option but K3's are taking a long time, year plus.

None of this would matter of course if the system worked and processed applications in a timely fashion.

meauxna

Hey, I don't mind you beating a drum, but at least look at the music:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/LPReligibility.htm

"You may be ineligible for adjustment to permanent resident status if: (note the word "may")
--You were admitted into the United States as a visitor under the Visa Waiver Program. (This rule does not apply to you if you are the immediate relative of a U.S. citizen (parent, spouse, or unmarried child under 21).)

Note "this rule does not apply..."

I'm sure if the VWP was to end, which it will not, people would travel to see you, so you would see them.

Preplanned VWP/AOS trips are not OK, but not for the reason you say.