proof of relationship/phonebills
Jan 24th 2003, 9:56 pm
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proof of relationship/phonebills
I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
important thing.
because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
important thing.
Jan 24th 2003, 11:05 pm
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Re: proof of relationship/phone bills
Hi "tuts",
When I became engaged to my fiance and started the process of filing my
I-129f and came across that proof of relationship item, I faced the same
situation. We had been talking everyday and I used paper phone cards -
tons of em!! But as you know, no record of my calls. Not to mention
that I wasn't saving them since I had no idea I'd eventually find them
useful.
My solution was to start buying phone cards online, so at least I could
have a paper trail of my purchases with my name address date etc..on
record. I submitted them with my application and was approved without
an RFE. Now, the online ones don't give you a record of the phone
number you called. so I also printed out the rates for my fiance's
particular country and highlighted them in connection to the country to
indicate my reason for selecting that card as a way of stengthening my
case.
There are many sites that sell cards and they do comparison ranking for
each card and shows you the best rates for the country you are
calling. 2 sites that I've been using..and this is NOT an
advertisement..are: justphonecards.com and pinzoo.com.
I hope this helps you.
elizabeth
When I became engaged to my fiance and started the process of filing my
I-129f and came across that proof of relationship item, I faced the same
situation. We had been talking everyday and I used paper phone cards -
tons of em!! But as you know, no record of my calls. Not to mention
that I wasn't saving them since I had no idea I'd eventually find them
useful.
My solution was to start buying phone cards online, so at least I could
have a paper trail of my purchases with my name address date etc..on
record. I submitted them with my application and was approved without
an RFE. Now, the online ones don't give you a record of the phone
number you called. so I also printed out the rates for my fiance's
particular country and highlighted them in connection to the country to
indicate my reason for selecting that card as a way of stengthening my
case.
There are many sites that sell cards and they do comparison ranking for
each card and shows you the best rates for the country you are
calling. 2 sites that I've been using..and this is NOT an
advertisement..are: justphonecards.com and pinzoo.com.
I hope this helps you.
elizabeth
Jan 24th 2003, 11:06 pm
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Save the phone cards. See how simple it can be.
Jan 24th 2003, 11:33 pm
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
Originally posted by Tuts
I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
important thing.
I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
important thing.
For the K-1 you definitely need proof that you have met each other during the last two years. With the K-3 the fact that you married is proof enough. Proof of a relationship is not critical to a K-3. It will be needed for later adjustment of status within the US but phone cards will not be a requirement for your situation. Document your being together before your marriage. I am assuming you two are living together or close to each other. Have people take your picture together in time oriented places, such as winterlude if there is one in Montreal as in Ottawa this weekend and next and the next. Holiday photos together. Valentine's Day is coming up so there will be cards to one another.
Rete
Jan 25th 2003, 12:37 am
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
I'm not an expert, but (in regards to k-1) phonebills and phonecards alone aren't enough. You need to prove that you have met in person within the past two years. Sure it can help strengthen your case, but I can't imagine you would get denied for not sending phone bills.
Originally posted by Tuts
I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
important thing.
I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
important thing.
Jan 25th 2003, 4:16 am
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
[email protected] (Tuts) wrote in message news:...
> I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> important thing.
we kept our phonecards, phone bills, emails, pictures we swapped,
airline tickets, all of it, in the end they only looked at a few
items...what is this for?
> I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> important thing.
we kept our phonecards, phone bills, emails, pictures we swapped,
airline tickets, all of it, in the end they only looked at a few
items...what is this for?
Jan 25th 2003, 1:30 pm
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Rete wrote in message news:...
> Originally posted by Tuts
> > I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> > because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> > fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> > doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> > local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> > one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> > important thing.
>
> Does this mean you have decided to do the K-1 Fiancee Visa instead
> of marrying the USC in Canada and then applying for the K-3 to
> enter the US?
>
> For the K-1 you definitely need proof that you have met each other
> during the last two years. With the K-3 the fact that you married is
> proof enough. Proof of a relationship is not critical to a K-3. It
> will be needed for later adjustment of status within the US but phone
> cards will not be a requirement for your situation. Document your
> being together before your marriage. I am assuming you two are living
> together or close to each other. Have people take your picture
> together in time oriented places, such as winterlude if there is one in
> Montreal as in Ottawa this weekend and next and the next. Holiday
> photos together. Valentine's Day is coming up so there will be cards
> to one another.
>
> Rete
Yes, Rete. After talking twice to the US Consulate here in Montreal,
we have decided to go with K1. This was also the advice of the agent
there coz its faster than K3. And yes, Montreal & New Jersey is that
far. My fiancee comes here once every 2 months. But what about the
***processing time*** now, RETE? It seems everyone is getting crazy
over that. Is it true that it now took 150 days? Thanks for your
advice and ill make sure there will be lots of pictures taken when she
visits me this coming valentines (even though im not really into
photogenic) lol.... : )
> Originally posted by Tuts
> > I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> > because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> > fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> > doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> > local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> > one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> > important thing.
>
> Does this mean you have decided to do the K-1 Fiancee Visa instead
> of marrying the USC in Canada and then applying for the K-3 to
> enter the US?
>
> For the K-1 you definitely need proof that you have met each other
> during the last two years. With the K-3 the fact that you married is
> proof enough. Proof of a relationship is not critical to a K-3. It
> will be needed for later adjustment of status within the US but phone
> cards will not be a requirement for your situation. Document your
> being together before your marriage. I am assuming you two are living
> together or close to each other. Have people take your picture
> together in time oriented places, such as winterlude if there is one in
> Montreal as in Ottawa this weekend and next and the next. Holiday
> photos together. Valentine's Day is coming up so there will be cards
> to one another.
>
> Rete
Yes, Rete. After talking twice to the US Consulate here in Montreal,
we have decided to go with K1. This was also the advice of the agent
there coz its faster than K3. And yes, Montreal & New Jersey is that
far. My fiancee comes here once every 2 months. But what about the
***processing time*** now, RETE? It seems everyone is getting crazy
over that. Is it true that it now took 150 days? Thanks for your
advice and ill make sure there will be lots of pictures taken when she
visits me this coming valentines (even though im not really into
photogenic) lol.... : )
Jan 25th 2003, 2:38 pm
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
[email protected] (Tuts) wrote in message news:...
> I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> important thing.
My wife took about 36 phone cards to her interview, no problem at all
in Manila...Mike
> I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> important thing.
My wife took about 36 phone cards to her interview, no problem at all
in Manila...Mike
Jan 25th 2003, 2:42 pm
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
Tuts wrote:
> I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> important thing.
Use Onesuite.com You pay online with your credit card and it keeps a
log of all calls and card recharges. I just printed the online log
monthly.
> I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> important thing.
Use Onesuite.com You pay online with your credit card and it keeps a
log of all calls and card recharges. I just printed the online log
monthly.
Jan 25th 2003, 5:12 pm
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
Just a ditto on onesuite.com:
I started using them a few weeks ago simply because the rates were incredibly low without silly tricks of weekly usage fees and such. I was pleasantly surprised to find that they keep an online-accessible log of each phone call. It is a piece of "third-party" evidence that can be used to suggest a serious relationship with a particular person -- something that a mere phone card cannot do.
As an aside, I also have not yet had a bad connection with them -- I used to have to dial five times to get through, and experienced frequent disconnects in the middle of calls, using another carrier that was three times the price.
I started using them a few weeks ago simply because the rates were incredibly low without silly tricks of weekly usage fees and such. I was pleasantly surprised to find that they keep an online-accessible log of each phone call. It is a piece of "third-party" evidence that can be used to suggest a serious relationship with a particular person -- something that a mere phone card cannot do.
As an aside, I also have not yet had a bad connection with them -- I used to have to dial five times to get through, and experienced frequent disconnects in the middle of calls, using another carrier that was three times the price.
Jan 26th 2003, 11:16 pm
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
Nic wrote:
>
> Save the phone cards. See how simple it can be.
Doesn't that simply prove that you have phonecards??
How does that prove you called each other?
>
> Save the phone cards. See how simple it can be.
Doesn't that simply prove that you have phonecards??
How does that prove you called each other?
Jan 27th 2003, 1:54 am
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Re: proof of relationship/phonebills
NJ and Montreal isn't that far ;-) I know because I live right across from NJ and my husband traveled back and forth from Ottawa (2-1/2 hours or so north of Montreal) ever other weekend in good weather to visit me. Heck it only takes us from the George Washington Bridge 6 hours to drive to Montreal to visit Jim's family. That aside, your fiancee will be using the Vermont Service Center. If the time line remains the same their approval will be within a month of receipt. But I am unclear if you will be allowed to do the K-1 interview in Montreal as you do not have legal residency in Canada but are there only as a visitor. 150 days is nothing in terms of final approval on a K-1. If that is correct, then you are among the lucky ones to get a K-1 in under four months.
Rete
Rete
Originally posted by Tuts
Rete wrote in message news:...
> Originally posted by Tuts
> > I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> > because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> > fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> > doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> > local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> > one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> > important thing.
>
> Does this mean you have decided to do the K-1 Fiancee Visa instead
> of marrying the USC in Canada and then applying for the K-3 to
> enter the US?
>
> For the K-1 you definitely need proof that you have met each other
> during the last two years. With the K-3 the fact that you married is
> proof enough. Proof of a relationship is not critical to a K-3. It
> will be needed for later adjustment of status within the US but phone
> cards will not be a requirement for your situation. Document your
> being together before your marriage. I am assuming you two are living
> together or close to each other. Have people take your picture
> together in time oriented places, such as winterlude if there is one in
> Montreal as in Ottawa this weekend and next and the next. Holiday
> photos together. Valentine's Day is coming up so there will be cards
> to one another.
>
> Rete
Yes, Rete. After talking twice to the US Consulate here in Montreal,
we have decided to go with K1. This was also the advice of the agent
there coz its faster than K3. And yes, Montreal & New Jersey is that
far. My fiancee comes here once every 2 months. But what about the
***processing time*** now, RETE? It seems everyone is getting crazy
over that. Is it true that it now took 150 days? Thanks for your
advice and ill make sure there will be lots of pictures taken when she
visits me this coming valentines (even though im not really into
photogenic) lol.... : )
Rete wrote in message news:...
> Originally posted by Tuts
> > I dont know how important phone bills as a proof. It worries me
> > because we always use PHONECARDS to call each other. As a matter of
> > fact we both have tons of it. In her phonebills as well as mine, it
> > doesnt show my number or her #. a phone card most of the time have a
> > local access # or a 1-800 #. Any advice? Although I know this is just
> > one of the proof we can produce, i think communication is the most
> > important thing.
>
> Does this mean you have decided to do the K-1 Fiancee Visa instead
> of marrying the USC in Canada and then applying for the K-3 to
> enter the US?
>
> For the K-1 you definitely need proof that you have met each other
> during the last two years. With the K-3 the fact that you married is
> proof enough. Proof of a relationship is not critical to a K-3. It
> will be needed for later adjustment of status within the US but phone
> cards will not be a requirement for your situation. Document your
> being together before your marriage. I am assuming you two are living
> together or close to each other. Have people take your picture
> together in time oriented places, such as winterlude if there is one in
> Montreal as in Ottawa this weekend and next and the next. Holiday
> photos together. Valentine's Day is coming up so there will be cards
> to one another.
>
> Rete
Yes, Rete. After talking twice to the US Consulate here in Montreal,
we have decided to go with K1. This was also the advice of the agent
there coz its faster than K3. And yes, Montreal & New Jersey is that
far. My fiancee comes here once every 2 months. But what about the
***processing time*** now, RETE? It seems everyone is getting crazy
over that. Is it true that it now took 150 days? Thanks for your
advice and ill make sure there will be lots of pictures taken when she
visits me this coming valentines (even though im not really into
photogenic) lol.... : )
Jan 27th 2003, 11:52 am
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Personally I wish my fiance were only in Montreal. I'd give anything to be able to see him every 2 months. We go sometimes 7 months without seeing each other.
But, my hunny will be coming to visit on Feb. 8th after 5 months of that large "pond" being in the way. YAY!!! I can't wait to see him again.
Linda
But, my hunny will be coming to visit on Feb. 8th after 5 months of that large "pond" being in the way. YAY!!! I can't wait to see him again.
Linda
Jan 27th 2003, 12:11 pm
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Originally posted by Linda & Eric
Personally I wish my fiance were only in Montreal. I'd give anything to be able to see him every 2 months. We go sometimes 7 months without seeing each other.
But, my hunny will be coming to visit on Feb. 8th after 5 months of that large "pond" being in the way. YAY!!! I can't wait to see him again.
Linda
Personally I wish my fiance were only in Montreal. I'd give anything to be able to see him every 2 months. We go sometimes 7 months without seeing each other.
But, my hunny will be coming to visit on Feb. 8th after 5 months of that large "pond" being in the way. YAY!!! I can't wait to see him again.
Linda
Philip and I were friends for a long time before we started dating and we dated for just over a year before marrying. I can easily say that driving to the airport to get him was the best feeling in the world, but driving to take him home was the worst.
I remember one time I threw up about 17 times between putting him on the plane and getting home. Another time I had a friend with me and I just cried like a baby. I mean, I wailed. In retrospect I was probably the most annoying person in the airport, but at the time I didn't give a shit!
I even went as far as to tell Philip to cancel his February visit because I couldn't handle sending him home! It was only gonna be for a few days and I had just gone through that a month earlier.
Oh, please make your visit the best and if you need a shoulder when he goes home - look me up.
Jen
Jan 27th 2003, 12:39 pm
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Sending them home gets harder and harder everytime he goes. Of course it bothers me, but seeing my kids feel the same way is just heartbreaking.
Although, after waiting over 2 years for my divorce to become finalized (due to the fact that my ex contested everything at every turn just to hold things up to make me miserable) , 6 months for the visa seems to me to be a short wait. At least I'll be going through VSC.
Linda
Although, after waiting over 2 years for my divorce to become finalized (due to the fact that my ex contested everything at every turn just to hold things up to make me miserable) , 6 months for the visa seems to me to be a short wait. At least I'll be going through VSC.
Linda