Are Police Reports Necessary??
Nov 11th 2002, 12:19 pm
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Are Police Reports Necessary??
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
Nov 11th 2002, 1:25 pm
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Re: Are Police Reports Necessary??
Originally posted by Peter
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
I've just looked at the list of countries that police certificates are not available, (on the back of one of the spare forms I had from the London embassy), and it says,
Quote: "Do not attempt to obtain police certificates covering residence in any of the following countries or areas, as they are either not available or may be obtained only by this office on your behalf:" Unquote.
I'm sorry to say that Mongolia was in fact on this list of countries.
I'm assuming that when they say "this office", they mean the London embassy, and I'm also assuming that your fiance will need to contact the embassy in Mongolia to find out how to get her records. I'm not sure how it works for the countries where the documents are hard to come by, but I'm pretty certain the police records are vital wherever the applicant is from. I'm sorry I don't have any useful links for you to look at to help point you in the right direction, but I'm sure someone here who has more knowledge will lend a hand.
Kate. xxxx
Nov 11th 2002, 2:10 pm
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Re: Are Police Reports Necessary??
You are basing your assumption without having all the facts. The paperwork you are doing is for the I-129F. There is a whole new set of documentation and documents that your fiancee will be completing and compiling at the request of the US Consulate after your I-129F is approved and sent to them. It is at this point that the police clearance certificate is required.
However, upon reading the NG fact URL [http://www.kamya.com/misc/polcert.html] I have found that Mongolian is one of the countries that one cannot obtain police clearance certificates from, as per DOS instructions on form DSL-1083.
Rete
However, upon reading the NG fact URL [http://www.kamya.com/misc/polcert.html] I have found that Mongolian is one of the countries that one cannot obtain police clearance certificates from, as per DOS instructions on form DSL-1083.
Rete
Originally posted by Peter
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
Nov 11th 2002, 2:11 pm
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What I find totally ironic in the US asking for police reports is that the US itself is incapable of providing a police report to another country if they asked for it in similar circumstances. Go figure.
Cheers,
Leslie
Cheers,
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Nov 11th 2002, 2:20 pm
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Re: Are Police Reports Necessary??
Originally posted by Peter
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
fiancee visa. The G325A form, or biography form, asks for a list of
all the addresses that the foreign nation has lived in the past 5
years. It doesn't say anything about needing anything to verify these
addresses. But a number of posts and anecdotes from people who have
gone through this process claim that copies of police reports are
necessary. I fear that in a place like Mongolia, these reports are
going to be impossible to get. What have people's experiences been
with this? Thanks! --Peter
Go to the "visa reciprocity tables" at http://travel.state.gov.
You are correct -- you can't get the police clearances from Mongolia. The Department of State agrees with you. So not needed.
Nov 11th 2002, 2:22 pm
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Originally posted by Scout
What I find totally ironic in the US asking for police reports is that the US itself is incapable of providing a police report to another country if they asked for it in similar circumstances. Go figure.
Cheers,
Leslie
What I find totally ironic in the US asking for police reports is that the US itself is incapable of providing a police report to another country if they asked for it in similar circumstances. Go figure.
Cheers,
Leslie
The US CAN provide them. You can get them from the FBI. In fact, if you are interested in your own rap sheet, just for the hell of it, send in fingerprints and the right fee and you get it back.
Nov 11th 2002, 3:15 pm
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Originally posted by Scout
What I find totally ironic in the US asking for police reports is that the US itself is incapable of providing a police report to another country if they asked for it in similar circumstances. Go figure.
Cheers,
Leslie
What I find totally ironic in the US asking for police reports is that the US itself is incapable of providing a police report to another country if they asked for it in similar circumstances. Go figure.
Cheers,
Leslie
(p.s. Just so there's no confusion, my record is spotless!
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Nov 11th 2002, 7:19 pm
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Nov 11th 2002, 7:29 pm
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What you mean is you have never been caught!!!
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What you mean is you have never been caught!!!
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Nov 12th 2002, 1:09 am
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> (p.s. Just so there's no confusion, my record is spotless! )
>> ~ Jenney
so is mine! i keep it in a dinky little clear plastic envelope so i don't get
nasty dirty tea stains on my exciting long list of previous convictions
(joke, JOKE!)
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)>> ~ Jenney
so is mine! i keep it in a dinky little clear plastic envelope so i don't get
nasty dirty tea stains on my exciting long list of previous convictions
(joke, JOKE!)
regards
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Nov 12th 2002, 1:17 am
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If I am not mistaken, the US is listed as one of the countries that won't provide a police certificate. I guess that just made me assume we couldn't. Maybe the INS just obtains it themselves?
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Nov 12th 2002, 1:20 am
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Originally posted by Scout
If I am not mistaken, the US is listed as one of the countries that won't provide a police certificate. I guess that just made me assume we couldn't. Maybe the INS just obtains it themselves?
Leslie
If I am not mistaken, the US is listed as one of the countries that won't provide a police certificate. I guess that just made me assume we couldn't. Maybe the INS just obtains it themselves?
Leslie
You do not need a US police clearance for a US visa. However, for other countries, you can get it.
Nov 12th 2002, 1:44 am
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Now I am confused even more. This is a hypothedical situation of course, but say you were a French Citizen and you lived for 10 years in the US. Then you moved back to France for a few years and then decided to marry a USC and move back to America. Would you not need a US Police Certificate then? If you didn't need one, would the INS run a check on your criminal background in the US as a matter or routine?
Cheers,
Leslie
Cheers,
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Nov 12th 2002, 3:24 am
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Re: Are Police Reports Necessary??
Peter,
Glad you managed to stumble your way into the newsgroup.
This is much better than writing to some complete stranger at a website, eh?
Lottsa more better answers too. You even got an immigration attorney to
chime in.
Mike
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> My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
> fiancee visa
Glad you managed to stumble your way into the newsgroup.
This is much better than writing to some complete stranger at a website, eh?
Lottsa more better answers too. You even got an immigration attorney to
chime in.
Mike
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"Peter" wrote in message
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> My girlfriend in Mongolia and I (in the US) are applying for a K-1
> fiancee visa
Nov 12th 2002, 3:47 am
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Originally posted by Scout
Now I am confused even more. This is a hypothedical situation of course, but say you were a French Citizen and you lived for 10 years in the US. Then you moved back to France for a few years and then decided to marry a USC and move back to America. Would you not need a US Police Certificate then? If you didn't need one, would the INS run a check on your criminal background in the US as a matter or routine?
Cheers,
Leslie
Now I am confused even more. This is a hypothedical situation of course, but say you were a French Citizen and you lived for 10 years in the US. Then you moved back to France for a few years and then decided to marry a USC and move back to America. Would you not need a US Police Certificate then? If you didn't need one, would the INS run a check on your criminal background in the US as a matter or routine?
Cheers,
Leslie
No, you would not need the police check. If you filed for adjustment of status while in the US, the process will require fingerprinting.
What I was mentioning was what happens when someone who has lived in America wants to immigrate elsewhere, e.g. that Frenchman wants to move to Canada. BTW, I was researching obtaining US State clearances which I needed in a deportation hearing and it was the CANADIAN immigration sites that had the information on how to get US clearances. Isn't google great?
BTW, out of curiosity -- those of you who have recently entered on immigrant visas -- does the INS take your fingerprints in the airport. I know that the law requires it -- but once a client successfully enters on an immigrant visa, that is the end of the lawyers involvment.
