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Old Jul 16th 2007, 5:49 pm
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Default P-1 Group Entertainment visa and inadmissibility?

The P-1 visa is a temporary visa to allow athletes and "entertainment groups" (read: rock bands) perform in the US.

My question is this: if a member has been convicted in the UK of a Class A possession drugs charge, does this render him/her inadmissible under 212?

It would appear that there is some considerable discretion and also possible avenues of appeal in the sense that I've yet to hear of a famous musician being banned from the US for life, though Pete Doherty is looking questionable.

Also: simply writing about using drugs is enough for an IO to deem you inadmissible:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/14/news/legal.php

Now THAT's going too far in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
The P-1 visa is a temporary visa to allow athletes and "entertainment groups" (read: rock bands) perform in the US.

My question is this: if a member has been convicted in the UK of a Class A possession drugs charge, does this render him/her inadmissible under 212?
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I would say not a chance in hell ... with class A ..
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Originally Posted by Ray
I would say not a chance in hell ... with class A ..
Mr Doherty has seemed to manage. I'm guessing it depends on exactly how famous you are and how good your lawyers are.
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Mr Doherty has seemed to manage. I'm guessing it depends on exactly how famous you are and how good your lawyers are.
I remember how long Lennons took for just a bit of weed
but money talks ..
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I remember how long Lennons took for just a bit of weed
but money talks ..
True, but he either had PR and they were gonna revoke it, or was applying for PR.

Paul McC has the Japan conviction.... and marriage to a USC doesn't forgive that. So it would appear that for the right $$$$ one can fix things.... of course this was all before the War On Drugs and the two-strikes-and-you're-out 240 language.

OTOH did you read the link I posted? Denied on the VWP because the IO googled the guy's name and came up with a years-old essay on "My Experiences With Taking Drugs"?
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
OTOH did you read the link I posted? Denied on the VWP because the IO googled the guy's name and came up with a years-old essay on "My Experiences With Taking Drugs"?
I saw that ... quite amazing ...
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I saw that ... quite amazing ...
and he was a Canadian who'd visited the US at least 100 times previously. According to him. An academic too. What's the world coming to?
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The American authorities seem prone to being starstruck. What else would explain why Pete Doherty's erstwhile girlfriend Kate Moss--who was caught on camera snorting large amounts of cocaine--is still allowed to travel freely into the US, or why self-confessed ex-drug addict and violent criminal Naomi Campbell hasn't had her residency revoked (Campbell's former assistant actually went on record as saying that she was forced to carry drugs through customs).
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Originally Posted by Lilyella
The American authorities seem prone to being starstruck. What else would explain why Pete Doherty's erstwhile girlfriend Kate Moss--who was caught on camera snorting large amounts of cocaine--is still allowed to travel freely into the US, or why self-confessed ex-drug addict and violent criminal Naomi Campbell hasn't had her residency revoked (Campbell's former assistant actually went on record as saying that she was forced to carry drugs through customs).
Unless Kate and Naomi do private modelling sessions in Secondary.....
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Originally Posted by Lilyella
The American authorities seem prone to being starstruck. What else would explain why Pete Doherty's erstwhile girlfriend Kate Moss--who was caught on camera snorting large amounts of cocaine--is still allowed to travel freely into the US, or why self-confessed ex-drug addict and violent criminal Naomi Campbell hasn't had her residency revoked (Campbell's former assistant actually went on record as saying that she was forced to carry drugs through customs).
But have they got conviction....
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No, but neither did that poor Canadian guy. If they can Google for the personal history of some obscure upstanding member of society, they can do the same for two of the most written about women in the world.
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Originally Posted by Lilyella
No, but neither did that poor Canadian guy. If they can Google for the personal history of some obscure upstanding member of society, they can do the same for two of the most written about women in the world.
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Default Re: P-1 Group Entertainment visa and inadmissibility?

Originally Posted by Lilyella
No, but neither did that poor Canadian guy. If they can Google for the personal history of some obscure upstanding member of society, they can do the same for two of the most written about women in the world.

The Canadian was a promulgator of drugs, Kate as far as I know is a user, but no convictions.
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The Canadian was a promulgator of drugs, Kate as far as I know is a user, but no convictions.
If admitting to drug use or being caught on camera using drugs constitutes self-conviction, then Kate is as guilty as the Canadian guy.
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
If admitting to drug use or being caught on camera using drugs constitutes self-conviction, then Kate is as guilty as the Canadian guy.
It may have been Kate was having a sherbet dab ...
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