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Old Mar 24th 2004, 1:25 am
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Big question!

If you split up after you have the conditions removed,
is that a crime?
lets say 6 months after removal of the conditions the marriage fails? regardless of who is at fault,
is it a red Flag or something for the USCIS?

there are people all over this site who worry because they might be getting divorced or seperated before the removal of conditions and the majority of you "coach" them to get to the point where the conditions are removed like its a finish line!!
is it really a finish line?

after 4 1/2 years of marriage we split up. though it was irrecionscilable differences, She's bitter enough to try for a annulment for fruadulently using the marriage for a green card.
the same woman who sat in the INS office with me convincing the interviewer on 2 seperate occasions that it was a Bona fide marriage. and it was for love.
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Old Mar 24th 2004, 2:32 am
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she can not get an anullmentafter 4 1/2 years,.. and it will not affect your
status,.. not officially,..
an unofficial opinion/question you may need to deal with concerning later
dealings,..?
why are so many people who moved here with a visa based on marriage/love so
damn concerned with staying after the marriage/love is gone?
The BCIS/ins people see this a lot,.. it all will depend on who you are
dealing with later,..
I am not being an asshole,.. I simply have had to deal with different
opinions also since my ex-wife was an immigrant,.. and my new wife is
also,..
expect it,.. especially since you are concerned with a "finish line" to your
visa requirements,..

"Aaron Sergeant" <member7428@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Big question!
    > If you split up after you have the conditions removed,
    > is that a crime?
    > lets say 6 months after removal of the conditions
    > the marriage fails? regardless of who is at fault,
    > is it a red Flag
    > or something for the USCIS?
    > there are people all over this site who
    > worry because they might be getting divorced or seperated before the
    > removal of conditions and the majority of you "coach" them to get to
    > the point where the conditions are removed like its a finish line!!
    > is it really a finish line?
    > after 4 1/2 years of marriage we split
    > up. though it was irrecionscilable differences, She's bitter enough to
    > try for a annulment for fruadulently using the marriage for a green
    > card.
    > the same woman who sat in the INS office with me convincing the
    > interviewer on 2 seperate occasions that it was a Bona fide marriage.
    > and it was for love.
    > --
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Old Mar 24th 2004, 3:28 am
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BCIS will never see anything since there is no such entity anymore.


Originally posted by Wayne
she can not get an anullmentafter 4 1/2 years,.. and it will not affect your
status,.. not officially,..
an unofficial opinion/question you may need to deal with concerning later
dealings,..?
why are so many people who moved here with a visa based on marriage/love so
damn concerned with staying after the marriage/love is gone?
The BCIS/ins people see this a lot,.. it all will depend on who you are
dealing with later,..
I am not being an asshole,.. I simply have had to deal with different
opinions also since my ex-wife was an immigrant,.. and my new wife is
also,..
expect it,.. especially since you are concerned with a "finish line" to your
visa requirements,..

"Aaron Sergeant" <member7428@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Big question!
    > If you split up after you have the conditions removed,
    > is that a crime?
    > lets say 6 months after removal of the conditions
    > the marriage fails? regardless of who is at fault,
    > is it a red Flag
    > or something for the USCIS?
    > there are people all over this site who
    > worry because they might be getting divorced or seperated before the
    > removal of conditions and the majority of you "coach" them to get to
    > the point where the conditions are removed like its a finish line!!
    > is it really a finish line?
    > after 4 1/2 years of marriage we split
    > up. though it was irrecionscilable differences, She's bitter enough to
    > try for a annulment for fruadulently using the marriage for a green
    > card.
    > the same woman who sat in the INS office with me convincing the
    > interviewer on 2 seperate occasions that it was a Bona fide marriage.
    > and it was for love.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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No it is not a crime. And I don't think of myself as coaching but what the hell, sounds good to me.

Your wife wants an annulment instead of a divorce? Hey she can petition for one. Will the court's grant it? She would have to have some really ironclad proof that you duped her into marriage for the sake of residency status in the US for a judge to grant annulment on those grounds.

When or rather if that occurs she might then have something concrete for the USCIS in the hopes of having your status rescinded and you deported for fraud. Will it happen? Personally and I can only give you my personal opinion, NO! You were married 4-1/2 years. You and she filed jointly for your residency and for your removal of conditions. So your marriage failed. Sorry to say it, but big deal. The majority of marriages in this country fail. So you and she stand on the side of the majority, instead of the minority.

Will USCIS give a hoot? Doubt it. They have far bigger fish to catch at the moment then go after a resident who was married for so long and who ex-wife appears to be vindicative.

Get your divorce, get on with your life, and better luck next time.

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Originally posted by Aaron Sergeant
Big question!

If you split up after you have the conditions removed,
is that a crime?
lets say 6 months after removal of the conditions the marriage fails? regardless of who is at fault,
is it a red Flag or something for the USCIS?

there are people all over this site who worry because they might be getting divorced or seperated before the removal of conditions and the majority of you "coach" them to get to the point where the conditions are removed like its a finish line!!
is it really a finish line?

after 4 1/2 years of marriage we split up. though it was irrecionscilable differences, She's bitter enough to try for a annulment for fruadulently using the marriage for a green card.
the same woman who sat in the INS office with me convincing the interviewer on 2 seperate occasions that it was a Bona fide marriage. and it was for love.
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Old Mar 24th 2004, 4:12 am
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Originally posted by Wayne
why are so many people who moved here with a visa based on marriage/love so
damn concerned with staying after the marriage/love is gone?


Many people sell their homes and have no option but to give up their career in order to move to the US to be with their partner.

If those people build a new life in America during the time they are married, then they may well want to remain in America if the marriage fails. After all, they may well have nothing left to return to in their home Country!
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Old Mar 24th 2004, 7:23 am
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Default Re: Need to know!!

Thank you all for your help,

I would like to just get on with my life after this divorce. and make a new start.



Originally posted by Rete
No it is not a crime. And I don't think of myself as coaching but what the hell, sounds good to me.

Your wife wants an annulment instead of a divorce? Hey she can petition for one. Will the court's grant it? She would have to have some really ironclad proof that you duped her into marriage for the sake of residency status in the US for a judge to grant annulment on those grounds.

When or rather if that occurs she might then have something concrete for the USCIS in the hopes of having your status rescinded and you deported for fraud. Will it happen? Personally and I can only give you my personal opinion, NO! You were married 4-1/2 years. You and she filed jointly for your residency and for your removal of conditions. So your marriage failed. Sorry to say it, but big deal. The majority of marriages in this country fail. So you and she stand on the side of the majority, instead of the minority.

Will USCIS give a hoot? Doubt it. They have far bigger fish to catch at the moment then go after a resident who was married for so long and who ex-wife appears to be vindicative.

Get your divorce, get on with your life, and better luck next time.

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Old Mar 24th 2004, 7:33 am
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Seems like the divorce rate is high amoung k-visas

maybe the govt should take a look at cutting back on the number of
these kinds of visas they issue, or have stricter regulations on them.





Aaron Sergeant <member7428@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Big question!
    >
    > If you split up after you have the conditions removed,
    >
    > is that a crime?
    > lets say 6 months after removal of the conditions
    > the marriage fails? regardless of who is at fault,
    > is it a red Flag
    > or something for the USCIS?
    >
    > there are people all over this site who
    > worry because they might be getting divorced or seperated before the
    > removal of conditions and the majority of you "coach" them to get to
    > the point where the conditions are removed like its a finish line!!
    >
    > is it really a finish line?
    >
    > after 4 1/2 years of marriage we split
    > up. though it was irrecionscilable differences, She's bitter enough to
    > try for a annulment for fruadulently using the marriage for a green
    > card.
    > the same woman who sat in the INS office with me convincing the
    > interviewer on 2 seperate occasions that it was a Bona fide marriage.
    > and it was for love.
 
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Ralph,

Try not to let your mind wander...It is too small and fragile to be out by itself.


Originally posted by Ralph Nadar
Seems like the divorce rate is high amoung k-visas

maybe the govt should take a look at cutting back on the number of
these kinds of visas they issue, or have stricter regulations on them.
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They have...they did. Get over it.


Originally posted by Ralph Nadar
Seems like the divorce rate is high amoung k-visas

maybe the govt should take a look at cutting back on the number of
these kinds of visas they issue, or have stricter regulations on them.





Aaron Sergeant <member7428@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Big question!
    >
    > If you split up after you have the conditions removed,
    >
    > is that a crime?
    > lets say 6 months after removal of the conditions
    > the marriage fails? regardless of who is at fault,
    > is it a red Flag
    > or something for the USCIS?
    >
    > there are people all over this site who
    > worry because they might be getting divorced or seperated before the
    > removal of conditions and the majority of you "coach" them to get to
    > the point where the conditions are removed like its a finish line!!
    >
    > is it really a finish line?
    >
    > after 4 1/2 years of marriage we split
    > up. though it was irrecionscilable differences, She's bitter enough to
    > try for a annulment for fruadulently using the marriage for a green
    > card.
    > the same woman who sat in the INS office with me convincing the
    > interviewer on 2 seperate occasions that it was a Bona fide marriage.
    > and it was for love.
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