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Old Dec 10th 2002, 11:49 am
  #1  
Strovilos
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Default Need to do a VISA waiver again for business/family visits only.

Hi

I would like to hear some good advice here:

Here is the bad situation I am in.


My Parents & brothers live in the US. I live in Canada.
I have to travel to the US for business for a multinational Telecom
Equipment company and visit my parents & brothers during holidays if
possible.

I have a 10 year bar on entering the US due to a 1996 IIRRA law


In the Past, my father had a his green card approved after multiple
petitions through labor certification etc etc. and that's because of
the abusive and irresponsible behavior of close relatives who promised
to
adjust status for him and his family, but who, in the end, throwed us
on the road and emotionaly abused us, threatening us and doing their
best to prevent my family from getting extenting/getting legal VISA
status. My family came to the US legally BTW, and unfortunately we
never knew what was laying ahead of us. Unfortunately, I HAD AGED OUT
back then and that was on end of 1993. My family and I had entered the
US
legally and also had an I-94 etc etc.

My father got his green card in 1996 and had a new petition
immediately
filed for me, that is I-130 in 1996 as the unmaried son of a permanent
resident. This I-130 petition was approved, unfortunately I couldn't
adjust status yet according to the approval letter. My guess is I had
to wait for my VISA priority, God knows for how many years??
Only then I could file another form with INS to get the "green card"?
During all this time, years, 1989-1998 I was out of status, but living
with my family.


Due to personal circumstances I had to immigrate to Canada. Personal
circumstances and also inability to work in the US, out of status
situation,
forced me to immigrate while ignoring/not knowing the real
consequences of the irrational 1996 IIRIRA. Unfortunately, I had to
wait a certain period of time before being eligible for a canadian
VISA and landing in Canada and that made
the "clock" tick against me as far as I understand now.

I landed there on April of 1998. Now after a few months living in
Canada, on
July of 1998 I applied at the local Consulate for a visitor VISA, to
see my
family (I was not a Canadian citizen yet, so I applied with the
passport of my native country). Well that's where I got into trouble.
The officer there put me on a 10 year bar to enter the US, end of
story. This law seems to be designed to seperate families and to treat
people like criminals even though they could stay INDEFINETELY no
matter if they get a Green Card
or not. If that law is not designed to exploit people then is designed
to
do what?


Recently I became a Canadian citizen. I did a Waiver application in an
attempt to remove the bar explaining that I live in Canada, I am a
Canadian Citizen, I have a house, a job that requires me to travel to
the US from time to time, married and having a kid, plus that I would
like to be able to visit my family from time to time. I submitted
everything the waiver required. I had no criminal records anywhere, in
the US, or Canada. My company had made a letter for me proving they
want me to travel to the US because we have a lot of customers there,
my presence is required etc. People wrote letters for me as per waiver
requirements. I did the whole application with a lawyer of course.

Well in the end they denied the application!

This is what they almost wrote to me. They said (I paraphrase):


There is not warrantee that I am not "a problem to the country ,
society" etc and they quoted some "Hanna" Law Case. That I don't prove
that my
intention is not to immigrate, that I was unlawfully present in the US
and so the bar was just and right. And that my application is denied,
and I should do a motion to reconsider and or go to the IMMIGRATION
APPEAL
COURT within x number of days.

I did the motion to reconsider. Now I know INS can take a look on it
anytime they want. There is no rule or deadline imposed on them to
look at any motion to reconsider in a timely manner. Therefore my
motion to
reconsider could take forever to get answered.

What I should do to get an answer faster from the INS? I did not want
to appeal since it seems to be also a lengthy/expensive process and no
warrantees in the end. I am in big trouble and I need help for sure.
    

Thanks!

TK
 
Old Dec 10th 2002, 12:05 pm
  #2  
Hnchoksi
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    >Subject: Need to do a VISA waiver again for business/family visits only.
    >From: [email protected] (Strovilos)
    >Date: 12/10/02 7:49 PM Eastern Standard Time
    >Message-id:
    >Hi
    >I would like to hear some good advice here:
    >Here is the bad situation I am in.
    >My Parents & brothers live in the US. I live in Canada.
    >I have to travel to the US for business for a multinational Telecom
    >Equipment company and visit my parents & brothers during holidays if
    >possible.
    >I have a 10 year bar on entering the US due to a 1996 IIRRA law
    >In the Past, my father had a his green card approved after multiple
    >petitions through labor certification etc etc. and that's because of
    >the abusive and irresponsible behavior of close relatives who promised
    >to
    >adjust status for him and his family, but who, in the end, throwed us
    >on the road and emotionaly abused us, threatening us and doing their
    >best to prevent my family from getting extenting/getting legal VISA
    >status. My family came to the US legally BTW, and unfortunately we
    >never knew what was laying ahead of us. Unfortunately, I HAD AGED OUT
    >back then and that was on end of 1993. My family and I had entered the
    >US
    >legally and also had an I-94 etc etc.
    >My father got his green card in 1996 and had a new petition
    >immediately
    >filed for me, that is I-130 in 1996 as the unmaried son of a permanent
    >resident. This I-130 petition was approved, unfortunately I couldn't
    >adjust status yet according to the approval letter. My guess is I had
    >to wait for my VISA priority, God knows for how many years??
    >Only then I could file another form with INS to get the "green card"?
    >During all this time, years, 1989-1998 I was out of status, but living
    >with my family.
    >Due to personal circumstances I had to immigrate to Canada. Personal
    >circumstances and also inability to work in the US, out of status
    >situation,
    >forced me to immigrate while ignoring/not knowing the real
    >consequences of the irrational 1996 IIRIRA. Unfortunately, I had to
    >wait a certain period of time before being eligible for a canadian
    >VISA and landing in Canada and that made
    >the "clock" tick against me as far as I understand now.
    > I landed there on April of 1998. Now after a few months living in
    >Canada, on
    >July of 1998 I applied at the local Consulate for a visitor VISA, to
    >see my
    >family (I was not a Canadian citizen yet, so I applied with the
    >passport of my native country). Well that's where I got into trouble.
    >The officer there put me on a 10 year bar to enter the US, end of
    >story. This law seems to be designed to seperate families and to treat
    >people like criminals even though they could stay INDEFINETELY no
    >matter if they get a Green Card
    >or not. If that law is not designed to exploit people then is designed
    >to
    >do what?
    >Recently I became a Canadian citizen. I did a Waiver application in an
    >attempt to remove the bar explaining that I live in Canada, I am a
    >Canadian Citizen, I have a house, a job that requires me to travel to
    >the US from time to time, married and having a kid, plus that I would
    >like to be able to visit my family from time to time. I submitted
    >everything the waiver required. I had no criminal records anywhere, in
    >the US, or Canada. My company had made a letter for me proving they
    >want me to travel to the US because we have a lot of customers there,
    >my presence is required etc. People wrote letters for me as per waiver
    >requirements. I did the whole application with a lawyer of course.
    >Well in the end they denied the application!
    >This is what they almost wrote to me. They said (I paraphrase):
    >There is not warrantee that I am not "a problem to the country ,
    >society" etc and they quoted some "Hanna" Law Case. That I don't prove
    >that my
    >intention is not to immigrate, that I was unlawfully present in the US
    >and so the bar was just and right. And that my application is denied,
    >and I should do a motion to reconsider and or go to the IMMIGRATION
    >APPEAL
    >COURT within x number of days.
    >I did the motion to reconsider. Now I know INS can take a look on it
    >anytime they want. There is no rule or deadline imposed on them to
    >look at any motion to reconsider in a timely manner. Therefore my
    >motion to
    >reconsider could take forever to get answered.
    >What I should do to get an answer faster from the INS? I did not want
    >to appeal since it seems to be also a lengthy/expensive process and no
    >warrantees in the end. I am in big trouble and I need help for sure.
    >
    >Thanks!

Hasn't this already been hashed to death here? I think you need to go to this
site and pose it: www.imminfo.com. It is a moderated site, so keep your story
short. You will need to register, but it is simple enough...
 
Old Dec 10th 2002, 12:14 pm
  #3  
Stuart Brook
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Default Re: Need to do a VISA waiver again for business/family visits only.

Strovilos wrote:
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I would like to hear some good advice here:
    >
    > Here is the bad situation I am in.
    >
    > My Parents & brothers live in the US. I live in Canada.
    > I have to travel to the US for business for a multinational Telecom
    > Equipment company and visit my parents & brothers during holidays if
    > possible.
    >
    > I have a 10 year bar on entering the US due to a 1996 IIRRA law
    >
    > In the Past, my father had a his green card approved after multiple
    > petitions through labor certification etc etc. and that's because of
    > the abusive and irresponsible behavior of close relatives who promised
    > to
    > adjust status for him and his family, but who, in the end, throwed us
    > on the road and emotionaly abused us, threatening us and doing their
    > best to prevent my family from getting extenting/getting legal VISA
    > status. My family came to the US legally BTW, and unfortunately we
    > never knew what was laying ahead of us. Unfortunately, I HAD AGED OUT
    > back then and that was on end of 1993. My family and I had entered the
    > US
    > legally and also had an I-94 etc etc.
    >
    > My father got his green card in 1996 and had a new petition
    > immediately
    > filed for me, that is I-130 in 1996 as the unmaried son of a permanent
    > resident. This I-130 petition was approved, unfortunately I couldn't
    > adjust status yet according to the approval letter. My guess is I had
    > to wait for my VISA priority, God knows for how many years??
    > Only then I could file another form with INS to get the "green card"?
    > During all this time, years, 1989-1998 I was out of status, but living
    > with my family.
    >
    > Due to personal circumstances I had to immigrate to Canada. Personal
    > circumstances and also inability to work in the US, out of status
    > situation,
    > forced me to immigrate while ignoring/not knowing the real
    > consequences of the irrational 1996 IIRIRA. Unfortunately, I had to
    > wait a certain period of time before being eligible for a canadian
    > VISA and landing in Canada and that made
    > the "clock" tick against me as far as I understand now.
    >
    > I landed there on April of 1998. Now after a few months living in
    > Canada, on
    > July of 1998 I applied at the local Consulate for a visitor VISA, to
    > see my
    > family (I was not a Canadian citizen yet, so I applied with the
    > passport of my native country). Well that's where I got into trouble.
    > The officer there put me on a 10 year bar to enter the US, end of
    > story. This law seems to be designed to seperate families and to treat
    > people like criminals even though they could stay INDEFINETELY no
    > matter if they get a Green Card
    > or not. If that law is not designed to exploit people then is designed
    > to
    > do what?
    >
    > Recently I became a Canadian citizen. I did a Waiver application in an
    > attempt to remove the bar explaining that I live in Canada, I am a
    > Canadian Citizen, I have a house, a job that requires me to travel to
    > the US from time to time, married and having a kid, plus that I would
    > like to be able to visit my family from time to time. I submitted
    > everything the waiver required. I had no criminal records anywhere, in
    > the US, or Canada. My company had made a letter for me proving they
    > want me to travel to the US because we have a lot of customers there,
    > my presence is required etc. People wrote letters for me as per waiver
    > requirements. I did the whole application with a lawyer of course.
    >
    > Well in the end they denied the application!
    >
    > This is what they almost wrote to me. They said (I paraphrase):
    >
    > There is not warrantee that I am not "a problem to the country ,
    > society" etc and they quoted some "Hanna" Law Case. That I don't prove
    > that my
    > intention is not to immigrate, that I was unlawfully present in the US
    > and so the bar was just and right. And that my application is denied,
    > and I should do a motion to reconsider and or go to the IMMIGRATION
    > APPEAL
    > COURT within x number of days.
    >
    > I did the motion to reconsider. Now I know INS can take a look on it
    > anytime they want. There is no rule or deadline imposed on them to
    > look at any motion to reconsider in a timely manner. Therefore my
    > motion to
    > reconsider could take forever to get answered.
    >
    > What I should do to get an answer faster from the INS? I did not want
    > to appeal since it seems to be also a lengthy/expensive process and no
    > warrantees in the end. I am in big trouble and I need help for sure.
    >
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > TK

Forwarded to management at ericsson.ca
 
Old Dec 10th 2002, 12:26 pm
  #4  
Joachim Feise
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Hnchoksi wrote:
    >
    > Hasn't this already been hashed to death here? I think you need to go to this
    > site and pose it: www.imminfo.com. It is a moderated site, so keep your story
    > short. You will need to register, but it is simple enough...

He will get the same answer from Ron Gotcher (the lawyer running that site)
that Stuart gave him.
I wonder if he then will respond with the same kind of profanity that he
used here.
But first, he probably learns that posting profanity from his work computer
is not flying that well with his employer.

-Joe
 
Old Dec 10th 2002, 12:38 pm
  #5  
Stuart Brook
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Default Re: Need to do a VISA waiver again for business/family visits only.

Joachim Feise wrote:
    >
    > Hnchoksi wrote:
    > >
    > > Hasn't this already been hashed to death here? I think you need to go to this
    > > site and pose it: www.imminfo.com. It is a moderated site, so keep your story
    > > short. You will need to register, but it is simple enough...
    >
    > He will get the same answer from Ron Gotcher (the lawyer running that site)
    > that Stuart gave him.
    > I wonder if he then will respond with the same kind of profanity that he
    > used here.
    > But first, he probably learns that posting profanity from his work computer
    > is not flying that well with his employer.
    >
    > -Joe

The attached was posted by KT Strovilos in alt.visa.us and was forwarded
to ericsson.ca management too. I think he'll have an interesting time
explaining this misuse of company resources to his management.

Stuart (who can understand the guy's frustration, but this is going
over the line)



    >Shut the hell up. Would you? I abused nobody. On the opposite some
    >"bright
    >minds" posting here try to abuse desperate people who need help.
    >I am a Canadian citizen and I don't agree with your views. Your an
    >idiot by assuming every Canadian citizen should think and judge like
    >you do.

    >I troll nothing. I'll keep posting until all the damn abusers here get
    >replaced
    >by decent people with real experiences like mine.
 
Old Dec 10th 2002, 6:40 pm
  #6  
olc-caNOSPAM
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On 10 Dec 2002 16:49:43 -0800, [email protected] (Strovilos) wrote:

    >Hi
    >I would like to hear some good advice here:
    >Here is the bad situation I am in.
    >My Parents & brothers live in the US. I live in Canada.
    >I have to travel to the US for business for a multinational Telecom
    >Equipment company and visit my parents & brothers during holidays if
    >possible.
    >I have a 10 year bar on entering the US due to a 1996 IIRRA law
    >In the Past, my father had a his green card approved after multiple
    >petitions through labor certification etc etc. and that's because of
    >the abusive and irresponsible behavior of close relatives who promised
    >to
    >adjust status for him and his family, but who, in the end, throwed us
    >on the road and emotionaly abused us, threatening us and doing their
    >best to prevent my family from getting extenting/getting legal VISA
    >status. My family came to the US legally BTW, and unfortunately we
    >never knew what was laying ahead of us. Unfortunately, I HAD AGED OUT
    >back then and that was on end of 1993. My family and I had entered the
    >US
    >legally and also had an I-94 etc etc.
    >My father got his green card in 1996 and had a new petition
    >immediately
    >filed for me, that is I-130 in 1996 as the unmaried son of a permanent
    >resident. This I-130 petition was approved, unfortunately I couldn't
    >adjust status yet according to the approval letter. My guess is I had
    >to wait for my VISA priority, God knows for how many years??
    >Only then I could file another form with INS to get the "green card"?
    >During all this time, years, 1989-1998 I was out of status, but living
    >with my family.
    >Due to personal circumstances I had to immigrate to Canada. Personal
    >circumstances and also inability to work in the US, out of status
    >situation,
    >forced me to immigrate while ignoring/not knowing the real
    >consequences of the irrational 1996 IIRIRA. Unfortunately, I had to
    >wait a certain period of time before being eligible for a canadian
    >VISA and landing in Canada and that made
    >the "clock" tick against me as far as I understand now.
    > I landed there on April of 1998. Now after a few months living in
    >Canada, on
    >July of 1998 I applied at the local Consulate for a visitor VISA, to
    >see my
    >family (I was not a Canadian citizen yet, so I applied with the
    >passport of my native country). Well that's where I got into trouble.
    >The officer there put me on a 10 year bar to enter the US, end of
    >story. This law seems to be designed to seperate families and to treat
    >people like criminals even though they could stay INDEFINETELY no
    >matter if they get a Green Card
    >or not. If that law is not designed to exploit people then is designed
    >to
    >do what?
    >Recently I became a Canadian citizen. I did a Waiver application in an
    >attempt to remove the bar explaining that I live in Canada, I am a
    >Canadian Citizen, I have a house, a job that requires me to travel to
    >the US from time to time, married and having a kid, plus that I would
    >like to be able to visit my family from time to time. I submitted
    >everything the waiver required. I had no criminal records anywhere, in
    >the US, or Canada. My company had made a letter for me proving they
    >want me to travel to the US because we have a lot of customers there,
    >my presence is required etc. People wrote letters for me as per waiver
    >requirements. I did the whole application with a lawyer of course.
    >Well in the end they denied the application!
    >This is what they almost wrote to me. They said (I paraphrase):
    >There is not warrantee that I am not "a problem to the country ,
    >society" etc and they quoted some "Hanna" Law Case. That I don't prove
    >that my
    >intention is not to immigrate, that I was unlawfully present in the US
    >and so the bar was just and right. And that my application is denied,
    >and I should do a motion to reconsider and or go to the IMMIGRATION
    >APPEAL
    >COURT within x number of days.
    >I did the motion to reconsider. Now I know INS can take a look on it
    >anytime they want. There is no rule or deadline imposed on them to
    >look at any motion to reconsider in a timely manner. Therefore my
    >motion to
    >reconsider could take forever to get answered.
    >What I should do to get an answer faster from the INS? I did not want
    >to appeal since it seems to be also a lengthy/expensive process and no
    >warrantees in the end. I am in big trouble and I need help for sure.
    >
    >Thanks!
    >TK

Congratualtions! You have now posted this annoyance enough times for
it to qualify as spam.
 
Old Dec 10th 2002, 7:38 pm
  #7  
Strovilos
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Stuart Brook wrote in message news:...
    > Strovilos wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I would like to hear some good advice here:
    > >
    > > Here is the bad situation I am in.
    > >
    > > My Parents & brothers live in the US. I live in Canada.
    > > I have to travel to the US for business for a multinational Telecom
    > > Equipment company and visit my parents & brothers during holidays if
    > > possible.
    > >
    > > I have a 10 year bar on entering the US due to a 1996 IIRRA law
    > >
    > > In the Past, my father had a his green card approved after multiple
    > > petitions through labor certification etc etc. and that's because of
    > > the abusive and irresponsible behavior of close relatives who promised
    > > to
    > > adjust status for him and his family, but who, in the end, throwed us
    > > on the road and emotionaly abused us, threatening us and doing their
    > > best to prevent my family from getting extenting/getting legal VISA
    > > status. My family came to the US legally BTW, and unfortunately we
    > > never knew what was laying ahead of us. Unfortunately, I HAD AGED OUT
    > > back then and that was on end of 1993. My family and I had entered the
    > > US
    > > legally and also had an I-94 etc etc.
    > >
    > > My father got his green card in 1996 and had a new petition
    > > immediately
    > > filed for me, that is I-130 in 1996 as the unmaried son of a permanent
    > > resident. This I-130 petition was approved, unfortunately I couldn't
    > > adjust status yet according to the approval letter. My guess is I had
    > > to wait for my VISA priority, God knows for how many years??
    > > Only then I could file another form with INS to get the "green card"?
    > > During all this time, years, 1989-1998 I was out of status, but living
    > > with my family.
    > >
    > > Due to personal circumstances I had to immigrate to Canada. Personal
    > > circumstances and also inability to work in the US, out of status
    > > situation,
    > > forced me to immigrate while ignoring/not knowing the real
    > > consequences of the irrational 1996 IIRIRA. Unfortunately, I had to
    > > wait a certain period of time before being eligible for a canadian
    > > VISA and landing in Canada and that made
    > > the "clock" tick against me as far as I understand now.
    > >
    > > I landed there on April of 1998. Now after a few months living in
    > > Canada, on
    > > July of 1998 I applied at the local Consulate for a visitor VISA, to
    > > see my
    > > family (I was not a Canadian citizen yet, so I applied with the
    > > passport of my native country). Well that's where I got into trouble.
    > > The officer there put me on a 10 year bar to enter the US, end of
    > > story. This law seems to be designed to seperate families and to treat
    > > people like criminals even though they could stay INDEFINETELY no
    > > matter if they get a Green Card
    > > or not. If that law is not designed to exploit people then is designed
    > > to
    > > do what?
    > >
    > > Recently I became a Canadian citizen. I did a Waiver application in an
    > > attempt to remove the bar explaining that I live in Canada, I am a
    > > Canadian Citizen, I have a house, a job that requires me to travel to
    > > the US from time to time, married and having a kid, plus that I would
    > > like to be able to visit my family from time to time. I submitted
    > > everything the waiver required. I had no criminal records anywhere, in
    > > the US, or Canada. My company had made a letter for me proving they
    > > want me to travel to the US because we have a lot of customers there,
    > > my presence is required etc. People wrote letters for me as per waiver
    > > requirements. I did the whole application with a lawyer of course.
    > >
    > > Well in the end they denied the application!
    > >
    > > This is what they almost wrote to me. They said (I paraphrase):
    > >
    > > There is not warrantee that I am not "a problem to the country ,
    > > society" etc and they quoted some "Hanna" Law Case. That I don't prove
    > > that my
    > > intention is not to immigrate, that I was unlawfully present in the US
    > > and so the bar was just and right. And that my application is denied,
    > > and I should do a motion to reconsider and or go to the IMMIGRATION
    > > APPEAL
    > > COURT within x number of days.
    > >
    > > I did the motion to reconsider. Now I know INS can take a look on it
    > > anytime they want. There is no rule or deadline imposed on them to
    > > look at any motion to reconsider in a timely manner. Therefore my
    > > motion to
    > > reconsider could take forever to get answered.
    > >
    > > What I should do to get an answer faster from the INS? I did not want
    > > to appeal since it seems to be also a lengthy/expensive process and no
    > > warrantees in the end. I am in big trouble and I need help for sure.
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks!
    > >
    > > TK
    >
    > Forwarded to management at ericsson.ca

You are a very low form of life, if you didn't notice so far.
You pretend to help but you really like to attack and criticise others without
reading. Well go back to your cave
 

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