Amos Cassius D'

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

    > Perfect example why the INS needs a major overhaul.
    >
    > Perfect example why the INS is now under a microscope.
    >
    > Perfect example why the American Citizens want the INS changed and the INS
    > Commissioner "fired".
    >
    > The "USA" belongs to the native born American Citizens, not the INS or ANY
    > foreigners moving here to trying to move here.

This is why Bushie might lose the next election.
    >
    > Your girl friend needs to move back whence she came, like it or not.
    >

I agree. -Amos

    > James Donovan wrote:
    >
    > > No not really. When adjusting status INS forgives overstays of immediate
    > > relatives of US citizens under Section 245(c) of the Immigration and
    > > Nationality Act.
    >

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That program is expired. An overstay is an overstay, if you want to be delayed every
time you come in the airport, so be it. This is not the proper way, and we will know.

Fred "James Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > [email protected] (AftonOkla) wrote in message
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    >
    > > Technically yes, she can do that but like you said, she will not be able
to
    > > work and they will probably have to fork over a penalty with their AOJ
    > > application.
    >
    > No they won't. Immediate relatives of US citizens do not need to fork over $1000 if
    > they entered legally to begin with. They do not even need to use 245(i).

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To Chong

If you want to get married, then get married. There is no easy solution to get
married as a USC or Permanent Resident. Their are proper petitions to get married the
right way. As for your N400 application (citizenship), maybe one year to an
interview, fingerprints, then your swear in ceremony will be a few months after that.
It is not a quick way to solve your problems. Plus, your girl friend issue will come
up. You can't help yourself. At the interview, most people who are in a hurry for
citizenship is because of a wife or child or parents. Do these steps correctly the
first time and you will not be looking over your shoulder the rest of your life. Get
advise from someone who will get you in the right direction, not a quick fix. Do you
want to gamble with your future wife and lose her forever or go the right way and
have a great life together. I have done the interviews for citizenship, I interview
the people at the airport. The worse thing that I see (all the time) is that the
people don't have the right information. I see so many attorney mistakes. If you wish
to get married immediately, you file the I130 thru the servicing office, that
application is transfer to the Department of State in which your wife/girlfriend
lives. She may travel to the US for short trips while both of your are waiting for
your priority date. See the INS website for more information. I have seen errors in
some of the information and we do report and have the site updated with better
information. I can provide more information upon request. Fred

"Shelley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Don't let your girlfriend overstay - it's a bad idea to take that chance with
    > someone you love. If she is caught, she could be deported and barred from the US
    > for life. Don't marry before you become a citizen, that could cause her
    > difficulties in using her visitors visa to come back to the US. If she is currently
    > in the US for 6 months, she can file for an extension for another 6 months, but
    > then she will need to return home. When you become a citizen, file for a K-1 visa
    > for her to return to the US so you can be married. Do it right, and you will have
    > no problems with her getting her Green Card and being able to remain in the US.
    > Take Care. Shelley
    >
    > "chong" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > If she overstay, she become illegal right?
    > >
    > > Can I marry her and ask her to overstay?
    > >
    > > My citienship is still at least 1+ yr away.
    > >
    > >
    > > On 31 May 2002 00:30:43 GMT, [email protected] (AftonOkla) wrote:
    > >
    > > >>I am only a PR. I am applying for my US citizen now and next month I get my
    > > >>fingerprint.
    > > >>
    > > >>I need advice on what I need to do next? I want her to stay.
    > > >>
    > > >>I have never married before.
    > > >
    > > >Get your citizenship and then apply for a K-1 visa for her or, if she
is
    > still
    > > >here, simply marry her and apply to adjust her status. In either event
    > you will
    > > >have to marry her if you desire she stay.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >

James Donovan

"news.verizon.net" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > That program is expired. An overstay is an overstay, if you want to be delayed
    > every time you come in the airport, so be it. This is not the proper way, and we
    > will know.

This is not any special "program". Immediate relatives of US Citizens are forgiven of
overstays and illegal employment, once they entered legally. It is clearly listed on
the i-485 form. 245(i) is different. 245(i) forgives you even if you didn't enter
legally, but it subjects you to a $1000 fine.

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To Mr. Donovan

245(i) only operates during period of times that the politicians want to give an
amnesty to eligible applicants. It does have expirations, paying that $1000
extra fee to grant "out of status" applicants a chance to become permanent
residents. It only "forgives" certain ground of ineligibility. A different
branch other than Inspections handle those cases. So I would have to look if
this program is still available. Fred

"James Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "news.verizon.net" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > That program is expired. An overstay is an overstay, if you want to be delayed
    > > every time you come in the airport, so be it. This is not the proper way, and we
    > > will know.
    >
    > This is not any special "program". Immediate relatives of US Citizens are forgiven
    > of overstays and illegal employment, once they entered legally. It is clearly
    > listed on the i-485 form. 245(i) is different. 245(i) forgives you even if you
    > didn't enter legally, but it subjects you to a $1000 fine.

Joachim Feise

245(i) is not available at this point. From time to time there are bills in Congress
to extend it, but these bills have gone nowhere so far. What Mr. Donovan was
talking about is something different. Immigration law allows immediate
relatives of US citizens to do AOS even if they overstayed, as long as they
entered legally. This has nothing at all to do with 245(i), it is a different
section of the law.

-Joe

news.verizon.net wrote:
    > To Mr. Donovan
    >
    > 245(i) only operates during period of times that the politicians want to give an
    > amnesty to eligible applicants. It does have expirations, paying that $1000
    > extra fee to grant "out of status" applicants a chance to become permanent
    > residents. It only "forgives" certain ground of ineligibility. A different
    > branch other than Inspections handle those cases. So I would have to look if
    > this program is still available. Fred
    >
    > "James Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>"news.verizon.net" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:<[email protected]>. ..
    >
    >>>That program is expired. An overstay is an overstay, if you want to be delayed
    >>>every time you come in the airport, so be it. This is not the proper way, and we
    >>>will know.
    >>
    >>This is not any special "program". Immediate relatives of US Citizens are forgiven
    >>of overstays and illegal employment, once they entered legally. It is clearly
    >>listed on the i-485 form. 245(i) is different. 245(i) forgives you even if you
    >>didn't enter legally, but it subjects you to a $1000 fine.
    >

Bm

You're as impatient as a 20 year old.

"AftonOkla" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > >If she overstay, she become illegal right?
    > >
    > >Can I marry her and ask her to overstay?
    > >
    > >My citienship is still at least 1+ yr away.
    >
    > When does her visa expire? It it expires before, she will have to get it extended
    > to go and come back on another visa.

Bm

"James Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] (AftonOkla) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > >If she overstay, she become illegal right?
    > > >
    > > >Can I marry her and ask her to overstay?
    > > >
    > > >My citienship is still at least 1+ yr away.
    > >
    > > When does her visa expire? It it expires before, she will have to get it extended
    > > to go and come back on another visa.
    >
    > Not really. That's not completely correct. Here's the breakdown:
    >
    > She overstays, but is married to chong, who gets his citizenship in a year. Under
    > the current law she is forgiven for overstaying if she is an immediate relative of
    > a US citizen as long as she entered legally to begin with. Once chong gets his
    > citizenship, she can adjust status in the US without trouble. However, she is out
    > of status during that time, and will not be able to work, and is deportable if
    > caught, although they don't usually deport spouses of USC's.

Highlight the word Usually. Seen it happen a bunch. Especially when you find out they
knew what they were supposed to do and didn't do it.