hwidyan

I got married 4 years ago to Canadian citizen, we both Syrian
originally .we have a 2 year old son. Then he disappears from our
lives physically and financially (he went back to Canada), he came
back two years after to get married again and he sponsors his new
wife
for immigration visa, and he didn't mention our marriage in his
application. I informed the embassy of his actions. So when she went
to her interview, the officer told her about my marriage (she told
them she doesn't know about this marriage, but I know she was guest
on
my wedding). The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a
proof. Now he is going to divorce me so he can finish her
application.
Please help me with my questions
1- Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal
divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.
2- He lied in his application and she did too .Is this consider
misrepresentation or fraud? And what will happen to their case after
he gets his divorce.
3- I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his
application in any way?
4- What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then
divorce
her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how
long this will take if this what will happen?
Please help me with your advice.

Elvira

Are you a USC?

What is his status? Is he a USC, a CPR or a LPR?

Have you consulted a divorce attorney? If not, do so without delay.

I am fairly certain that he has committed immigration fraud.

AFAIK he cannot divorce you without your consent, at least not at this point in time. Do not sign any divorce papers without legal advice.

Just Jenney

What is his citizenship? You said he is a Canadian citizen -- is he a dual US/Canadian citizen?? If he isn't, what kind of visa is he trying to sponsor for his "wife"?


1 - Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.

Separation is not the same thing as a divorce. Once results in a divorce certificate, one does not. A divorce certificate is required when applying for US marriage-based immigration, as well as adjustment of status and naturalization later on.


2 - He lied in his application and she did too. Is this consider misrepresentation or fraud?

Yep.


The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a proof. Now he is going to divorce me so he can finish her application.

If memory serves me, I think in situations like this the applicant only has 30 days or something to present the requested evidence. Maybe it's 90 days. Whatever it is, your husband and his "wife" don't seem to understand that it will probably take much longer than that to get a divorce finalized. Even dumber is the fact that they obviously have no clue that even if he COULD get a divorce that quickly, the divorce certificate will have the DATE the divorce was finalized -- which will be after the interview date itself. DUH.


And what will happen to their case after he gets his divorce.

It doesn't involve you at that point since you will no longer be married to him, so it's more or less irrelevant. But again, it's not looking good for them since the divorce certificate would be dated after her interview date -- which just proves that they lied on their application and their marriage was invalid.


3 - I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his application in any way?

Are you asking if requesting child and spousal support would hurt their chances for being approved later on? Again, once you're divorced I don't see how his immigration status would have anything to do with you.


4 - What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then divorce her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how long this will take if this what will happen?

I'm not sure if he can divorce someone he's never legally been married to.


Just out of curiosity, how did you find out about all of this? And did you only file for child and spousal support once you found out that he had "married" someone who, at one time, was apparently a friend of yours?

~ Jenney

Templar

> I got married 4 years ago to Canadian citizen, we both Syrian
> originally .we have a 2 year old son. Then he disappears from our
> lives physically and financially (he went back to Canada), he came
> back two years after to get married again and he sponsors his new
> wife
> for immigration visa, and he didn't mention our marriage in his
> application. I informed the embassy of his actions. So when she went
> to her interview, the officer told her about my marriage (she told
> them she doesn't know about this marriage, but I know she was guest
> on
> my wedding). The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a
> proof. Now he is going to divorce me so he can finish her
> application.
> Please help me with my questions
> 1- Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal
> divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.
> 2- He lied in his application and she did too .Is this consider
> misrepresentation or fraud? And what will happen to their case after
> he gets his divorce.
> 3- I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his
> application in any way?
> 4- What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then
> divorce
> her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how
> long this will take if this what will happen?
> Please help me with your advice.

1. No. It's not a divorce until it is officially recognized by
the state.

2. It is absolutely positively 100% immigration fraud.

3. All his financial obligations (e.g., child support) are considered
when he files affidavit of support for other people he wants to sponsor.
The minimum amount he has to earn will be higher.

3. It is against the US law to be married to two people at the same
time. Your husband commited more than just a immigration fraud. If
it is found to be a honest mistake, perhaps your husband can
officially divorce you and continue to sponsor the other person. If
it is found to be a deliberate attept at fraud, your husband won't be
able to sponsor her ever again. It all depends on how they try to
explain away the mistakes.

In my opinion, you did the right thing by alerting the embassy of their
bogus attempt.

--

Retire to Italy

Jinney

With the the greatest of respect herein to you I feel this topic
herein is a much too complicated for someone such as you to be
expounding thereupon and purporting to give legal advice thereon.

I admire your motivation to assist but I truly believe that in complex
matters such as are indicated by the dicta herein that it is best left
to those more experienced and wiser to elucidate upon. I will reply
directly to the poster as has been my habit of late.

Nemo Iudex in causa sua .

sincerely


una amica Julia Arriverderci a Presto

On Apr 13, 6:51 am, Jenney & Mark <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > I got married 4 years ago to Canadian citizen, we both Syrian
> > originally .we have a 2 year old son. Then he disappears from our
> > lives physically and financially (he went back to Canada), he came
> > back two years after to get married again and he sponsors his new
> > wife
> > for immigration visa, and he didn't mention our marriage in his
> > application. I informed the embassy of his actions. So when she went
> > to her interview, the officer told her about my marriage (she told
> > them she doesn't know about this marriage, but I know she was guest
> > on
> > my wedding). The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a
> > proof. Now he is going to divorce me so he can finish her
> > application.
> > Please help me with my questions
> > 1- Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal
> > divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.
> > 2- He lied in his application and she did too .Is this consider
> > misrepresentation or fraud? And what will happen to their case after
> > he gets his divorce.
> > 3- I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his
> > application in any way?
> > 4- What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then
> > divorce
> > her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how
> > long this will take if this what will happen?
> > Please help me with your advice.
>
> What is his citizenship? You said he is a Canadian citizen -- is he a
> dual US/Canadian citizen?? If he isn't, what kind of visa is he trying
> to sponsor for his "wife"?
>
> 1 - Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal
> divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.
>
> Separation is not the same thing as a divorce. Once results in a divorce
> certificate, one does not. A divorce certificate is required when
> applying for US marriage-based immigration, as well as adjustment of
> status and naturalization later on.
>
> 2 - He lied in his application and she did too. Is this consider
> misrepresentation or fraud?
>
> Yep.
>
> The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a proof. Now he is
> going to divorce me so he can finish her application.
>
> If memory serves me, I think in situations like this the applicant only
> has 30 days or something to present the requested evidence. Maybe it's
> 90 days. Whatever it is, your husband and his "wife" don't seem to
> understand that it will probably take much longer than that to get a
> divorce finalized. Even dumber is the fact that they obviously have no
> clue that even if he COULD get a divorce that quickly, the divorce
> certificate will have the DATE the divorce was finalized -- which will
> be after the interview date itself. DUH.
>
> And what will happen to their case after he gets his divorce.
>
> It doesn't involve you at that point since you will no longer be married
> to him, so it's more or less irrelevant. But again, it's not looking
> good for them since the divorce certificate would be dated after her
> interview date -- which just proves that they lied on their application
> and their marriage was invalid.
>
> 3 - I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his
> application in any way?
>
> Are you asking if requesting child and spousal support would hurt their
> chances for being approved later on? Again, once you're divorced I don't
> see how his immigration status would have anything to do with you.
>
> 4 - What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then divorce
> her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how long
> Just out of curiosity, how did you find out about all of this? And
> did you only file for child and spousal support once you found out
> that he had "married" someone who, at one time, was apparently a
> friend of yours?
>
> ~ Jenney
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://britishexpats.com

Tracym

"much too complicated for someone such as you" ??
"Someone wiser" ???

wow. Certainly someone with more attitude and less grammar.

ian-mstm

Geez... you're an arrogant [_]itch, aren't you? You'd be better off peddling your wisdom at the local bodega... much more to your level.

Ian

fatbrit

But there is also much humour!

Just Jenney

Jeoluiua is ALWAYS a source for a good laugh.

I mean, look: THREE "hereins" (two of them separated by only six words!), a "thereupon" AND a "thereon". This is VERY exciting, hysterical stuff!!!

Although I must say, she's usually much better at the quoting/posting than this time around. She appears to have gone crazy with the "Enter" button on her keyboard. Slipping a bit?

~ Jenney

Retire to Italy

SIr

Please do not sure your true colors herein. You are a disgrace as
usual. You make Mr Imus look good.

However I must point out you do not own this forum and I have equal
rights herein.

Please take a break and cool down. Geez I would not like to be the
subject of your happy company day to day.


Be advised to control yourself.

Julia

Retire to Italy

Fat

Thank you for your kind support.

I was beginning to feel like Rosey @ the view.


I think the donald wanna be herein needs to cool down before he
explodes someday.


warmly

Julia











On Apr 13, 9:46 pm, fatbrit <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > "much too complicated for someone such as you" ??
> > "Someone wiser" ???
>
> > wow. Certainly someone with more attitude and less grammar.
>
> But there is also much humour!
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://britishexpats.com

fatbrit

I think that's good advice for Donald Wannabe, too.

hwidyan

On Apr 13, 4:51 am, Jenney & Mark <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > I got married 4 years ago to Canadian citizen, we both Syrian
> > originally .we have a 2 year old son. Then he disappears from our
> > lives physically and financially (he went back to Canada), he came
> > back two years after to get married again and he sponsors his new
> > wife
> > for immigration visa, and he didn't mention our marriage in his
> > application. I informed the embassy of his actions. So when she went
> > to her interview, the officer told her about my marriage (she told
> > them she doesn't know about this marriage, but I know she was guest
> > on
> > my wedding). The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a
> > proof. Now he is going to divorce me so he can finish her
> > application.
> > Please help me with my questions
> > 1- Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal
> > divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.
> > 2- He lied in his application and she did too .Is this consider
> > misrepresentation or fraud? And what will happen to their case after
> > he gets his divorce.
> > 3- I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his
> > application in any way?
> > 4- What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then
> > divorce
> > her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how
> > long this will take if this what will happen?
> > Please help me with your advice.
>
> What is his citizenship? You said he is a Canadian citizen -- is he a
> dual US/Canadian citizen?? If he isn't, what kind of visa is he trying
> to sponsor for his "wife"?
>
> 1 - Are they going to consider our separation a divorce (no legal
> divorce done yet) and there was no intent of divorce before.
>
> Separation is not the same thing as a divorce. Once results in a divorce
> certificate, one does not. A divorce certificate is required when
> applying for US marriage-based immigration, as well as adjustment of
> status and naturalization later on.
>
> 2 - He lied in his application and she did too. Is this consider
> misrepresentation or fraud?
>
> Yep.
>
> The officer asked her to bring my divorce paper for a proof. Now he is
> going to divorce me so he can finish her application.
>
> If memory serves me, I think in situations like this the applicant only
> has 30 days or something to present the requested evidence. Maybe it's
> 90 days. Whatever it is, your husband and his "wife" don't seem to
> understand that it will probably take much longer than that to get a
> divorce finalized. Even dumber is the fact that they obviously have no
> clue that even if he COULD get a divorce that quickly, the divorce
> certificate will have the DATE the divorce was finalized -- which will
> be after the interview date itself. DUH.
>
> And what will happen to their case after he gets his divorce.
>
> It doesn't involve you at that point since you will no longer be married
> to him, so it's more or less irrelevant. But again, it's not looking
> good for them since the divorce certificate would be dated after her
> interview date -- which just proves that they lied on their application
> and their marriage was invalid.
>
> 3 - I filled a child and spouse support. Can this complicate his
> application in any way?
>
> Are you asking if requesting child and spousal support would hurt their
> chances for being approved later on? Again, once you're divorced I don't
> see how his immigration status would have anything to do with you.
>
> 4 - What I understand that he needs to divorce me first, then divorce
> her second, then he remarry her again and apply for her again, how long
> this will take if this what will happen?
>
> I'm not sure if he can divorce someone he's never legally been
> married to.
>
> Just out of curiosity, how did you find out about all of this? And
> did you only file for child and spousal support once you found out
> that he had "married" someone who, at one time, was apparently a
> friend of yours?
>
> ~ Jenney
>
> --
> Posted viahttp://britishexpats.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you all for your advise, I going to do my research upon your
feedbacks and will write a letter and take it to the Canadian
embassy .to answer your question he has a Canadian citizenship. And a
friend of mine lives in USA and she told me that what he is going to
do consider illegal in usa.so I did my investigation and learned the
immigration law in Canada, then wrote a letter and went with it to the
embassy. For the second wife, she is one his relatives (I believe she
suppose to read her application and sign it from the beginning, so she
knew that my marriage not mention in it).

Just Jenney

If he is not a US citizen or US legal permanent resident then he has no basis for filing a US marriage-based visa. His application would be denied even if he had married this woman legally.

~ Jenney

Tracym

Gee Fatbrit - I don't think she quite gets your humour - your kind support inded!

Who IS this lunatic?