more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
Apr 18th 2002, 5:00 pm
#1
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more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
her passport, but would have an application pending...
The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on
a K-1 visa?
2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful or
unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone explain
frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to return home
before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien fiancee to lie
upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry that such a lie,
if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify for
a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
would fly.
Thanks so much for any anecdotes that would help!
tl
I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
her passport, but would have an application pending...
The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on
a K-1 visa?
2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful or
unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone explain
frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to return home
before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien fiancee to lie
upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry that such a lie,
if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify for
a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
would fly.
Thanks so much for any anecdotes that would help!
tl
Apr 18th 2002, 9:30 pm
#2
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Re: more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
On 18 Apr 2002 19:51:39 -0700, [email protected] (t l) wrote:
>To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
>
>I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
>family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
>her passport, but would have an application pending...
>
>The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
>would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
>
>1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
> applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on a
> K-1 visa?
That would be unlikely. Any problem would occur when the fiance applies for the
tourist visa or enters on the tourist visa, not when the K-1 would be issued.
>2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful
> or unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone
> explain frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to
> return home before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien
> fiancee to lie upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry
> that such a lie, if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
>
>Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify
>for a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
>would fly.
I would not recommend it.
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
with a professional immigration attorney.
For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
For many questions, you may find answers at
http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html (Department of State)
or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html
For visa denial and suggestions what to do about them, see
http://travel.state.gov/visadenials.html
For DOL Online Labor Certification: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
For non-official information, check:
(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
know all site operators.)
http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
(dual citizenship FAQ) http://www.ilw.com http://www.srs-usvisa.com
http://www.getusavisa.com http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/
http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B) http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm http://www.workpermit.com
This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
and typically don't even know them.
(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site
listed here, please e-mail me).
>To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
>
>I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
>family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
>her passport, but would have an application pending...
>
>The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
>would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
>
>1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
> applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on a
> K-1 visa?
That would be unlikely. Any problem would occur when the fiance applies for the
tourist visa or enters on the tourist visa, not when the K-1 would be issued.
>2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful
> or unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone
> explain frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to
> return home before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien
> fiancee to lie upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry
> that such a lie, if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
>
>Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify
>for a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
>would fly.
I would not recommend it.
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
with a professional immigration attorney.
For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
For many questions, you may find answers at
http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html (Department of State)
or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html
For visa denial and suggestions what to do about them, see
http://travel.state.gov/visadenials.html
For DOL Online Labor Certification: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
For non-official information, check:
(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
know all site operators.)
http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
(dual citizenship FAQ) http://www.ilw.com http://www.srs-usvisa.com
http://www.getusavisa.com http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/
http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B) http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm http://www.workpermit.com
This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
and typically don't even know them.
(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site
listed here, please e-mail me).
Apr 22nd 2002, 11:30 am
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Re: more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
Thank you for the response! And thanks for more links I can check out.
I have 1 question about what you wrote--
I wrote and then you wrote:
[email protected] (Ingo Pakleppa) wrote in message news:<ed.
>
> >2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful
> > or unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone
> > explain frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to
> > return home before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien
> > fiancee to lie upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry
> > that such a lie, if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
> >
> >Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify
> >for a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents
> >probably would fly.
>
> I would not recommend it.
>
>
I understand clearly that you are not a lawyer and that ultimately my fiancee and I
are responsible for our decisions and their consequences. I'd be grateful to know,
however, exactly what you don't reccommend--telling the truth? not telling the truth?
my fiancee trying to come in at all while waiting for a K-1?
Thanks again!
tom
I have 1 question about what you wrote--
I wrote and then you wrote:
[email protected] (Ingo Pakleppa) wrote in message news:<ed.
>
> >2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful
> > or unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone
> > explain frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to
> > return home before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien
> > fiancee to lie upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry
> > that such a lie, if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
> >
> >Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify
> >for a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents
> >probably would fly.
>
> I would not recommend it.
>
>
I understand clearly that you are not a lawyer and that ultimately my fiancee and I
are responsible for our decisions and their consequences. I'd be grateful to know,
however, exactly what you don't reccommend--telling the truth? not telling the truth?
my fiancee trying to come in at all while waiting for a K-1?
Thanks again!
tom
Apr 27th 2002, 1:30 pm
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Re: more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
On 22 Apr 2002 14:45:55 -0700, [email protected] (t l) wrote:
>Thank you for the response! And thanks for more links I can check out.
>
>I have 1 question about what you wrote--
>
>I wrote and then you wrote:
>
>[email protected] (Ingo Pakleppa) wrote in message news:<ed.
>>
>> >2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been
>> > successful or unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring?
>> > Did anyone explain frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of
>> > intent to return home before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want
>> > my alien fiancee to lie upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons;
>> > I'd worry that such a lie, if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
>> >
>> >Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify
>> >for a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents
>> >probably would fly.
>>
>> I would not recommend it.
>>
>>
>
>I understand clearly that you are not a lawyer and that ultimately my fiancee and I
>are responsible for our decisions and their consequences. I'd be grateful to know,
>however, exactly what you don't reccommend--telling the truth? not telling the
>truth? my fiancee trying to come in at all while waiting for a K-1?
My recommendation:
- do tell the truth
- do not lie
- I would also not even try to get a tourist visa while waiting for the K-1.
Ingo
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
with a professional immigration attorney.
For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
For many questions, you may find answers at
http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html (Department of State)
or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html
For visa denial and suggestions what to do about them, see
http://travel.state.gov/visadenials.html
For DOL Online Labor Certification: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
For non-official information, check:
(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
know all site operators.)
http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
(dual citizenship FAQ) http://www.ilw.com http://www.srs-usvisa.com
http://www.getusavisa.com http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/
http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B) http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm http://www.workpermit.com
This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
and typically don't even know them.
(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site
listed here, please e-mail me).
>Thank you for the response! And thanks for more links I can check out.
>
>I have 1 question about what you wrote--
>
>I wrote and then you wrote:
>
>[email protected] (Ingo Pakleppa) wrote in message news:<ed.
>>
>> >2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been
>> > successful or unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring?
>> > Did anyone explain frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of
>> > intent to return home before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want
>> > my alien fiancee to lie upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons;
>> > I'd worry that such a lie, if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
>> >
>> >Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify
>> >for a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents
>> >probably would fly.
>>
>> I would not recommend it.
>>
>>
>
>I understand clearly that you are not a lawyer and that ultimately my fiancee and I
>are responsible for our decisions and their consequences. I'd be grateful to know,
>however, exactly what you don't reccommend--telling the truth? not telling the
>truth? my fiancee trying to come in at all while waiting for a K-1?
My recommendation:
- do tell the truth
- do not lie
- I would also not even try to get a tourist visa while waiting for the K-1.
Ingo
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
with a professional immigration attorney.
For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
For many questions, you may find answers at
http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html (Department of State)
or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html
For visa denial and suggestions what to do about them, see
http://travel.state.gov/visadenials.html
For DOL Online Labor Certification: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
For non-official information, check:
(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
know all site operators.)
http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
(dual citizenship FAQ) http://www.ilw.com http://www.srs-usvisa.com
http://www.getusavisa.com http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/
http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B) http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm http://www.workpermit.com
This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
and typically don't even know them.
(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site
listed here, please e-mail me).
May 7th 2002, 3:05 am
#5
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Re: more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
Originally posted by T L
To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
her passport, but would have an application pending...
The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on
a K-1 visa?
2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful or
unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone explain
frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to return home
before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien fiancee to lie
upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry that such a lie,
if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify for
a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
would fly.
Thanks so much for any anecdotes that would help!
tl
To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
her passport, but would have an application pending...
The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on
a K-1 visa?
2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful or
unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone explain
frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to return home
before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien fiancee to lie
upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry that such a lie,
if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify for
a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
would fly.
Thanks so much for any anecdotes that would help!
tl
May 7th 2002, 3:08 am
#6
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Re: more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
Originally posted by T L
To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
her passport, but would have an application pending...
The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on
a K-1 visa?
2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful or
unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone explain
frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to return home
before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien fiancee to lie
upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry that such a lie,
if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify for
a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
would fly.
Thanks so much for any anecdotes that would help!
tl
To all who maintain and contribute to this newsgroup, a thousand thanks!
I'd like my fiancee to get a tourist visa to join her parents in visiting me and my
family in advance of our wedding. At that time, she would not yet have a K-1 visa in
her passport, but would have an application pending...
The K-Visa FAQ made clear that there are not clear answers to my question. I still
would welcome any specific experiences answering these smaller questions:
1) has an alien fiancee's successful visit to the USA on a tourist visa--while
applying for a K-1 -- ever led to a problem later in receiving or entering on
a K-1 visa?
2) when coming into the country, when such "tourist" fiancees have been successful or
unsuccessful in actually entering, what did they say or bring? Did anyone explain
frankly their purpose for entering and/or bring evidence of intent to return home
before returing with a K-1? What happened? I don't want my alien fiancee to lie
upon entering the USA, and not just for moral reasons; I'd worry that such a lie,
if caught, would lead to trouble down the road.
Additional info: As a Korean, my fiancee does not automatically or easily qualify for
a tourist visa, though we think that an application to join her parents probably
would fly.
Thanks so much for any anecdotes that would help!
tl
Kimmie.
May 7th 2002, 5:08 am
#7
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Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46,469
Re: more ?s: can an alien fiancee enter USA while the K-1 visa is in process?
Originally posted by Kimmie
Hi, I have visited my fiancee in Houston, Texas whilst my k1 visa was being processed. I entered the U.S.A from England on a visitors wayfairer visa. I have since had my interview at the US embassy in London with no problems at all. Hope this helps and you have a great visit.
Kimmie.
Hi, I have visited my fiancee in Houston, Texas whilst my k1 visa was being processed. I entered the U.S.A from England on a visitors wayfairer visa. I have since had my interview at the US embassy in London with no problems at all. Hope this helps and you have a great visit.
Kimmie.
A new class of visa for the INS?
I believe you mean you used the Visa Wavier Program to enter the US from England.
Your experience is irrelevant to the original poster as the VWP is not available to citizens of Korea.
I, too, would say not to even bother trying for the tourist visa for your fiancee. Her parents might be accepted but she will not be. She is young, unmarried and admitted has a romantic relationship with a US Citizen. The Consulate will note "Hmmmmm engaged to a Yank, I see. Going to take Mom and Dad with her to the States to visit the boyfriend. No. Visa Denied!"
Why you ask?
Simple USC Fiancee plus Foreign Fiancee plus Foreign Fiancee's Parents equal Wedding Ceremony.
Rete
