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Old Mar 13th 2007, 8:17 am
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Hello All,

here's my situation, I went to study on an F-1 visa in California in Jan 1995, date of status ending was listed as Dec 1998 on the visa. Whilst I was studying I met, and married my wife who is an USC. I stopped my studies in Jan 1996, and began preparing paperwork for my change of status. However, due to family situations here in the UK my wife and I decided to relocate to London rather than remain in the US. As I was not intending to stay in the US I did not file the paperwork to change my F-1 non-immigrant visa to a resident visa. I left the US in Sep 1996.

Now, I would like to travel to the States for a weeks holiday to see my wifes family. I have not traveled to the US since I left in 96 and was wondering if I would have any trouble entering on the standard VWP program considering I was once on an F-1 visa?

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Old Mar 14th 2007, 12:39 am
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Hello All,

here's my situation, I went to study on an F-1 visa in California in Jan 1995, date of status ending was listed as Dec 1998 on the visa. Whilst I was studying I met, and married my wife who is an USC. I stopped my studies in Jan 1996, and began preparing paperwork for my change of status. However, due to family situations here in the UK my wife and I decided to relocate to London rather than remain in the US. As I was not intending to stay in the US I did not file the paperwork to change my F-1 non-immigrant visa to a resident visa. I left the US in Sep 1996.

Now, I would like to travel to the States for a weeks holiday to see my wifes family. I have not traveled to the US since I left in 96 and was wondering if I would have any trouble entering on the standard VWP program considering I was once on an F-1 visa?

many thanks
I'm not sure I understand why you think you might have a problem. According to your dates you were never out of status.

FWIW, my husband once had a J1 in the distant past and thereafter used the VWP for many years before moving to the US.
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Hi Elvira,

thanks for your response. Perhaps I'm being paranoid but matters of US Visa rules do seem a bit of a black art to me so appreciate your input very much

I was concerned because I have heard recently that if you are on a F-1 visa and do not continue a full 12 unit course load you are immediately considered 'out of status', I had dropped all of my classes in Jan 1996, shortly after I married my USC wife, 9 months before leaving the US in Sep 1996.

I thought that perhaps this would mean that I had 'overstayed' even though I was married to a USC and preparing my papers for residency. I wanted to make sure before heading out to the US for my first visit in a long time that I would still be able to use VWP. I am perhaps overreacting quite a bit?
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Hi Elvira,

thanks for your response. Perhaps I'm being paranoid but matters of US Visa rules do seem a bit of a black art to me so appreciate your input very much

I was concerned because I have heard recently that if you are on a F-1 visa and do not continue a full 12 unit course load you are immediately considered 'out of status', I had dropped all of my classes in Jan 1996, shortly after I married my USC wife, 9 months before leaving the US in Sep 1996.

I thought that perhaps this would mean that I had 'overstayed' even though I was married to a USC and preparing my papers for residency. I wanted to make sure before heading out to the US for my first visit in a long time that I would still be able to use VWP. I am perhaps overreacting quite a bit?
Ah - I missed that bit! However, I doubt that this will come up - too long ago, and schools at the time probably did not notify Immigration if a student dropped out.

However, it would probably be not a good idea to conceal the information if you were asked outright. Just don't volunteer it
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Hello,

I agree with Elvira; back in the 90s, the chances of your school informing the INS that you'd dropped out would be slim. I can't imagine you'd have a problem.
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F1 students are usually stamped in for "duration of status" (would have said "d/s" on your I-94). That means you do not go out of status unless a judge says so, even if you stopped taking classes. So the chances of you not having accrued any "unlawful presence" is good.
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Originally Posted by alematt
Hi Elvira,

thanks for your response. Perhaps I'm being paranoid but matters of US Visa rules do seem a bit of a black art to me so appreciate your input very much

I was concerned because I have heard recently that if you are on a F-1 visa and do not continue a full 12 unit course load you are immediately considered 'out of status', I had dropped all of my classes in Jan 1996, shortly after I married my USC wife, 9 months before leaving the US in Sep 1996.

I thought that perhaps this would mean that I had 'overstayed' even though I was married to a USC and preparing my papers for residency. I wanted to make sure before heading out to the US for my first visit in a long time that I would still be able to use VWP. I am perhaps overreacting quite a bit?
This doesnt sound like an issue to me - you were here in the pre-SEVIS days when no-one knew who was doing what under the guises of an F-1 visa!
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