Lost X-ray CD
Jan 17th 2012, 4:51 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
That is the visa process file, from submission of the petition through completion of the visa application.
Regards, JEff
Regards, JEff
Indeed. Thankfully there were no "visa" documents in the folder, but a load of ID stuff did go missing (marriage certificates, police record stuff birth certificates). I've reported everything to the police, who didn't seem too concerned, so I'm just praying that nothing goes awry when I enter the US next week.
Jan 17th 2012, 4:57 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
That is the visa process file, from submission of the petition through completion of the visa application.
Jan 17th 2012, 6:05 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
OK, sorry, I thought you were talking about the 'plain brown envelope' being stolen.
Regards, JEff
Regards, JEff
But nothing linking those documents to a visa, nor any of the associated paperwork, nor anything relating to financial support, future address, sponsor etc. It's a pain in the arse yes, but surely more of a risk for UK based ID theft than it is to visa fraud - the fact that I've had a visa approved is dissociated from those documents, in-so-much as I could have had them on me with no intentions of ever applying for a visa.
Jan 25th 2012, 10:23 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
For the record, as predicted, no one asked for my CD.
I couldn't care less - I'm writing this from a Starbucks just off the Hudson, while I wait for my wife to get back from work, safe in the knowledge that, for the first time in our lives, we're not together on borrowed time. And it feels incredible.
I couldn't care less - I'm writing this from a Starbucks just off the Hudson, while I wait for my wife to get back from work, safe in the knowledge that, for the first time in our lives, we're not together on borrowed time. And it feels incredible.
Jan 25th 2012, 10:23 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
For the record, as predicted, no one asked for my CD.
I couldn't care less - I'm writing this from a Starbucks just off the Hudson, while I wait for my wife to get back from work, safe in the knowledge that, for the first time in our lives, we're not together on borrowed time. And it feels incredible.
I couldn't care less - I'm writing this from a Starbucks just off the Hudson, while I wait for my wife to get back from work, safe in the knowledge that, for the first time in our lives, we're not together on borrowed time. And it feels incredible.
Rene
Jan 26th 2012, 4:00 am
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
I have seen this question come up a few times, so I thought it might be worth pasting some excerpts of what the FAM has to say on the topic. Apologies if I am repeating anything that has been discussed ad nauseam:
I think the "please keep this with you for your use/records in the US" ends up being interpreted, quite understandably, as "have this ready to show at entry".
From the above, it seems to me to be quite clear that the X-ray is not at all required for POE purposes.
9 FAM 42.66 N15 DISPOSITION OF MEDICAL DOCUMENTS AFTER VISA ISSUANCE TO APPLICANTS WITH AND WITHOUT CLASS A OR B MEDICAL CONDITIONS
a. NO CLASS A OR CLASS B MEDICAL CONDITION: The panel physician should provide a copy of all medical examination forms and related worksheets to the alien. Aliens without a Class A or Class B medical condition are not required to present copies of their medical evaluation at the port of entry. In cases where the applicant has had a chest x-ray, you should instruct the panel physician to give the x-ray image(s) directly to the alien. If, however, the x-ray image(s) or CD-R is hand-carried or sent to the consular section, you must give the images to the applicant for their medical records. Instruct the alien to:
(1) Retain this x-ray image as an important record of his or her physical condition at the time of the medical examination; and
(2) Take the chest x-ray image(s) to the United States as part of his or her permanent health record.
b. CLASS A OR CLASS B MEDICAL CONDITION: At the time of visa issuance, attach, by staples, to the alien’s passport a sealed envelope containing the original and three copies of Form DS-2053, Medical Examination for Immigrant or Refugee Applicants, and all related worksheets. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will collect the original form, give one copy to the alien and two copies to the USPHS/CDC Quarantine Station, which will keep one copy and send the other to CDC Headquarters. The envelope must be clearly marked “Medical Report (Form DS-2053 and related worksheets) enclosed.” Give to the applicant all available x-ray image(s) (in a CDC accepted format) pertaining to the case in a separate sealed envelope. Label the envelope:
For delivery by (alien’s name) to the (name of hospital agreed on) as soon as possible after entry into the United States.
Instruct the alien to:
(1) Retain the x-ray image(s) as an important record of his or her physical condition at the time of the medical examination; and
(2) Take the chest x-ray image(s) to the United States as part of his or her permanent health record.
Since these images are for follow-up evaluation purposes only, the alien need not hand-carry the x-ray image(s) for presentation at the port of entry.
a. NO CLASS A OR CLASS B MEDICAL CONDITION: The panel physician should provide a copy of all medical examination forms and related worksheets to the alien. Aliens without a Class A or Class B medical condition are not required to present copies of their medical evaluation at the port of entry. In cases where the applicant has had a chest x-ray, you should instruct the panel physician to give the x-ray image(s) directly to the alien. If, however, the x-ray image(s) or CD-R is hand-carried or sent to the consular section, you must give the images to the applicant for their medical records. Instruct the alien to:
(1) Retain this x-ray image as an important record of his or her physical condition at the time of the medical examination; and
(2) Take the chest x-ray image(s) to the United States as part of his or her permanent health record.
b. CLASS A OR CLASS B MEDICAL CONDITION: At the time of visa issuance, attach, by staples, to the alien’s passport a sealed envelope containing the original and three copies of Form DS-2053, Medical Examination for Immigrant or Refugee Applicants, and all related worksheets. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will collect the original form, give one copy to the alien and two copies to the USPHS/CDC Quarantine Station, which will keep one copy and send the other to CDC Headquarters. The envelope must be clearly marked “Medical Report (Form DS-2053 and related worksheets) enclosed.” Give to the applicant all available x-ray image(s) (in a CDC accepted format) pertaining to the case in a separate sealed envelope. Label the envelope:
For delivery by (alien’s name) to the (name of hospital agreed on) as soon as possible after entry into the United States.
Instruct the alien to:
(1) Retain the x-ray image(s) as an important record of his or her physical condition at the time of the medical examination; and
(2) Take the chest x-ray image(s) to the United States as part of his or her permanent health record.
Since these images are for follow-up evaluation purposes only, the alien need not hand-carry the x-ray image(s) for presentation at the port of entry.
From the above, it seems to me to be quite clear that the X-ray is not at all required for POE purposes.
Jan 26th 2012, 12:13 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
For a bit of historical perspective, the FAM has been revised over the years. When I entered the US the requirement was different... we were obligated to have the X-Ray on hand for inspection by the officer at the POE. True, they were never actually asked for even then, but the requirement to have them available was there... and this was long before they were made available on a CD!
Of course, this was years before 9/11... and the world was much simpler then! If things have since changed, then I'm delighted! As FG said, "One less thing to worry about!"
Ian
Jan 26th 2012, 12:45 pm
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Jan 30th 2012, 9:52 pm
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Re: Lost X-ray CD
Funny 'cos the POE officers would have no clue as to whether a chest xray showed TB or not anyway! (Unless in the unlikely event that a qualified doctor or radiologist had taken a job as an IO!)
