London Embass & 2nd NOA
Nov 12th 2002, 8:38 pm
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Note: I have just emailed what Morkai suggested to London, and I will post their reply when I receive it.
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D.
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Nov 12th 2002, 9:21 pm
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Okay, I just have an email from London, saying:
*************
I'm afraid you're going to have to contact INS on this one. If we have
received the approved petition by the time of your interview, we will give
you the I-797 back. If not, it goes into the sealed visa package and what
INS does it with it from there is a bit of a mystery from our end!
**************
So no further forward really...does anyone have an answered email address for the INS?
Peace,
D.
*************
I'm afraid you're going to have to contact INS on this one. If we have
received the approved petition by the time of your interview, we will give
you the I-797 back. If not, it goes into the sealed visa package and what
INS does it with it from there is a bit of a mystery from our end!
**************
So no further forward really...does anyone have an answered email address for the INS?
Peace,
D.
Nov 12th 2002, 9:28 pm
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you can always request a duplicate from the Service Centre daizey........the only problem is .........how long will they take to send it?It all boils down to....do you want the earliest interview date with a possible delay in starting AOS.....or........delay the interview and have no delay in starting AOS? You pays your money...........
Nov 12th 2002, 9:35 pm
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Yeah, Abba, I know...but I, like you, will then be worried that they take ages in sending the new copy, delaying another process! I think I might hold out for London to get their own copy.
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Nov 13th 2002, 2:25 pm
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Re: London Embass & 2nd NOA
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:10:15 +0000, abba48uk
wrote:
>Our 2nd NOA was issued by the NSC (1st NOA 27 June). My fiancee has
>yet to receive the notice thru the post however.
>I asked the London Embassy if they would accept a fax of the Approval
>Notice direct from her, quoting the case number already given to me by
>them. The very prompt reply indicated that only the original notice or
>the approved file from the NSC would suffice. Consequently my fiancee
>will Fedex the notice to me as soon as it arrives for onward posting to
>the Embassy. We had had the faint hope that shaving a week or so off
>the process might make Christmas together more feasible, and that I
>could keep my hands on the original.
>I intend to send that original to them together with a notarised copy.
>In this way I HOPE that there will be no problems in having the original
>returned to me for the AOS process, with the notarised copy remaining on
>their files. Has anyone had any experience in this area?
I had to send the original notice to London because the petition got
lost between CSC and London. They were not interested in copies and
refused my request for its return, stating that it would go in the
sealed brown envelope.
At the POE (Phoenix) the officer confirmed when I asked that it was in
fact in the envelope but politely refused my request for its return.
I submitted a copy when I applied for AOS and there was no problem but
I guess the real crunch will come when the AOS interview arrives (but
that is at least two years away here in Phoenix)
Denis
wrote:
>Our 2nd NOA was issued by the NSC (1st NOA 27 June). My fiancee has
>yet to receive the notice thru the post however.
>I asked the London Embassy if they would accept a fax of the Approval
>Notice direct from her, quoting the case number already given to me by
>them. The very prompt reply indicated that only the original notice or
>the approved file from the NSC would suffice. Consequently my fiancee
>will Fedex the notice to me as soon as it arrives for onward posting to
>the Embassy. We had had the faint hope that shaving a week or so off
>the process might make Christmas together more feasible, and that I
>could keep my hands on the original.
>I intend to send that original to them together with a notarised copy.
>In this way I HOPE that there will be no problems in having the original
>returned to me for the AOS process, with the notarised copy remaining on
>their files. Has anyone had any experience in this area?
I had to send the original notice to London because the petition got
lost between CSC and London. They were not interested in copies and
refused my request for its return, stating that it would go in the
sealed brown envelope.
At the POE (Phoenix) the officer confirmed when I asked that it was in
fact in the envelope but politely refused my request for its return.
I submitted a copy when I applied for AOS and there was no problem but
I guess the real crunch will come when the AOS interview arrives (but
that is at least two years away here in Phoenix)
Denis
Nov 13th 2002, 2:28 pm
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Re: London Embass & 2nd NOA
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:22:33 +0000, Jenney & Mark
wrote:
>Originally posted by Morkai Kurst
>> Uh uh, I gave my brown envelope over to the customs officer at POE and
>> he opened it up looked through it all and kept it. Sent me on my way
>> with my passport and stamped I-94. That was it. Same with the K3
>> couple in front of me.
>> Consider anything you send in or give over at your interview gone for
>> good - you will get a brief glimpse at POE and thats it - Thats why I
>> kept a copy of each of our G-325A's so I could use those when we filed
>> for AOS.
>Hmm.....
>So the Embassy says they will only accept the original I-797 to go ahead
>and arrange your interview. And that after the interview they put the
>original in the sealed envelope that you take to the POE.
>But the POE won't give you anything that's in the sealed envelope you
>give them -- including your original I-797, which you MUST have for AOS.
>Has anyone asked the POE to give the original I-797 back to them, as
>they'll need it for AOS?? Were you denied?
Yes I asked, and yes, I was denied.
>Furthermore, has anyone brought it to the Embassy's attention
>(via email, at the interview, etc.) that by putting your original
>I-797 in the sealed envelope, they are risking the loss a form
>that you absolutely HAVE to have to continue with your
>immigration once in the US?
>This sounds like a complete contradiction to me.... not that I find that
>surprising!!
>~ Jenney
They accepted a copy for my AOS application but what happens on
interview day is something I'll have to wait to find out!
Denis
wrote:
>Originally posted by Morkai Kurst
>> Uh uh, I gave my brown envelope over to the customs officer at POE and
>> he opened it up looked through it all and kept it. Sent me on my way
>> with my passport and stamped I-94. That was it. Same with the K3
>> couple in front of me.
>> Consider anything you send in or give over at your interview gone for
>> good - you will get a brief glimpse at POE and thats it - Thats why I
>> kept a copy of each of our G-325A's so I could use those when we filed
>> for AOS.
>Hmm.....
>So the Embassy says they will only accept the original I-797 to go ahead
>and arrange your interview. And that after the interview they put the
>original in the sealed envelope that you take to the POE.
>But the POE won't give you anything that's in the sealed envelope you
>give them -- including your original I-797, which you MUST have for AOS.
>Has anyone asked the POE to give the original I-797 back to them, as
>they'll need it for AOS?? Were you denied?
Yes I asked, and yes, I was denied.
>Furthermore, has anyone brought it to the Embassy's attention
>(via email, at the interview, etc.) that by putting your original
>I-797 in the sealed envelope, they are risking the loss a form
>that you absolutely HAVE to have to continue with your
>immigration once in the US?
>This sounds like a complete contradiction to me.... not that I find that
>surprising!!
>~ Jenney
They accepted a copy for my AOS application but what happens on
interview day is something I'll have to wait to find out!
Denis
Nov 13th 2002, 2:30 pm
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Re: London Embass & 2nd NOA
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:04 GMT, "Morkai Kurst"
wrote:
>I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server is doing
>this to me a lot lately.
>I never asked for anything back but then I never gave over my original I-797
>either. Maybe they make an exception in that case since it is vital to have
>the original for AOS as you say. It's quite possible that the customs
>officer will see it when he looks through the contents and say 'hey, you
>need this' and hand it back.
Dream on!
Denis
>I doubt very much they will hand over your original petition and any other
>forms and/or evidence included with them though which is what the post I
>replied to was hoping I think.
>Morkai
>> Hmm.....
>> So the Embassy says they will only accept the original I-797 to go
>> ahead and arrange your interview. And that after the interview they
>> put the original in the sealed envelope that you take to the POE.
>> But the POE won't give you anything that's in the sealed envelope you
>> give them -- including your original I-797, which you MUST have for
>> AOS.
>> Has anyone asked the POE to give the original I-797 back to them, as
>> they'll need it for AOS?? Were you denied?
>> Furthermore, has anyone brought it to the Embassy's attention
>> (via email, at the interview, etc.) that by putting your original
>> I-797 in the sealed envelope, they are risking the loss a form
>> that you absolutely HAVE to have to continue with your
>> immigration once in the US?
>> This sounds like a complete contradiction to me.... not that I find
>> that surprising!!
>> ~ Jenney
wrote:
>I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server is doing
>this to me a lot lately.
>I never asked for anything back but then I never gave over my original I-797
>either. Maybe they make an exception in that case since it is vital to have
>the original for AOS as you say. It's quite possible that the customs
>officer will see it when he looks through the contents and say 'hey, you
>need this' and hand it back.
Dream on!
Denis
>I doubt very much they will hand over your original petition and any other
>forms and/or evidence included with them though which is what the post I
>replied to was hoping I think.
>Morkai
>> Hmm.....
>> So the Embassy says they will only accept the original I-797 to go
>> ahead and arrange your interview. And that after the interview they
>> put the original in the sealed envelope that you take to the POE.
>> But the POE won't give you anything that's in the sealed envelope you
>> give them -- including your original I-797, which you MUST have for
>> AOS.
>> Has anyone asked the POE to give the original I-797 back to them, as
>> they'll need it for AOS?? Were you denied?
>> Furthermore, has anyone brought it to the Embassy's attention
>> (via email, at the interview, etc.) that by putting your original
>> I-797 in the sealed envelope, they are risking the loss a form
>> that you absolutely HAVE to have to continue with your
>> immigration once in the US?
>> This sounds like a complete contradiction to me.... not that I find
>> that surprising!!
>> ~ Jenney
Nov 13th 2002, 4:05 pm
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Re: London Embass & 2nd NOA
Morkai Kurst wrote:
>
> I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server is doing
> this to me a lot lately.
You might consider a free account at DFN-CIS
I've had an account there for a few years and find the service to be
very good
>
> I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server is doing
> this to me a lot lately.
You might consider a free account at DFN-CIS
I've had an account there for a few years and find the service to be
very good
Nov 14th 2002, 7:21 am
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Re: London Embass & 2nd NOA
Denis wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:04 GMT, "Morkai Kurst"
> wrote:
>> I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server
>> is doing this to me a lot lately.
>> I never asked for anything back but then I never gave over my
>> original I-797 either. Maybe they make an exception in that case
>> since it is vital to have the original for AOS as you say. It's
>> quite possible that the customs officer will see it when he looks
>> through the contents and say 'hey, you need this' and hand it back.
> Dream on!
> Denis
They aren't all assholes. The customs officer I had was very nice. He made
jokes when I couldn't figure out on the spot when my 90 days where up and
gave me advise on when and how I should go about getting my social security
number.
He even smiled several times
Morkai
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:04 GMT, "Morkai Kurst"
> wrote:
>> I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server
>> is doing this to me a lot lately.
>> I never asked for anything back but then I never gave over my
>> original I-797 either. Maybe they make an exception in that case
>> since it is vital to have the original for AOS as you say. It's
>> quite possible that the customs officer will see it when he looks
>> through the contents and say 'hey, you need this' and hand it back.
> Dream on!
> Denis
They aren't all assholes. The customs officer I had was very nice. He made
jokes when I couldn't figure out on the spot when my 90 days where up and
gave me advise on when and how I should go about getting my social security
number.
He even smiled several times
Morkai
Nov 14th 2002, 9:19 am
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Re: London Embass & 2nd NOA
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:21:52 GMT, "Morkai Kurst"
wrote:
>Denis wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:04 GMT, "Morkai Kurst"
>> wrote:
>>> I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server
>>> is doing this to me a lot lately.
>>> I never asked for anything back but then I never gave over my
>>> original I-797 either. Maybe they make an exception in that case
>>> since it is vital to have the original for AOS as you say. It's
>>> quite possible that the customs officer will see it when he looks
>>> through the contents and say 'hey, you need this' and hand it back.
>> Dream on!
>> Denis
>They aren't all assholes. The customs officer I had was very nice. He made
>jokes when I couldn't figure out on the spot when my 90 days where up and
>gave me advise on when and how I should go about getting my social security
>number.
>He even smiled several times
>Morkai
I wasn't commenting on that. Everyone I've dealt with so far has been
very pleasant and helpful but they still refused to give my original
I-797 back at the POE.
Denis
Denis
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wrote:
>Denis wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:04 GMT, "Morkai Kurst"
>> wrote:
>>> I am obviously missing large chunks of this thread - my news server
>>> is doing this to me a lot lately.
>>> I never asked for anything back but then I never gave over my
>>> original I-797 either. Maybe they make an exception in that case
>>> since it is vital to have the original for AOS as you say. It's
>>> quite possible that the customs officer will see it when he looks
>>> through the contents and say 'hey, you need this' and hand it back.
>> Dream on!
>> Denis
>They aren't all assholes. The customs officer I had was very nice. He made
>jokes when I couldn't figure out on the spot when my 90 days where up and
>gave me advise on when and how I should go about getting my social security
>number.
>He even smiled several times
>Morkai
I wasn't commenting on that. Everyone I've dealt with so far has been
very pleasant and helpful but they still refused to give my original
I-797 back at the POE.
Denis
Denis
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