Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Jun 22nd 2008, 1:52 pm
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Trouble with libertarianism is that everyone that believes in it is so much of an individual no-one can agree on what the right thing to do is.
I am pretty sure a libertarianism convention looks a lot like The Jerry Springer show.
I am pretty sure a libertarianism convention looks a lot like The Jerry Springer show.
Jun 22nd 2008, 2:11 pm
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Jun 22nd 2008, 3:10 pm
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Libertarianism was the law of the land in the US in the 1800s.
- No federal income tax
- No welfare
- No drug laws
- No roads
- No laws against duels
- Everybody could carry a gun (it was expected)
- No laws against robber barons
- Federal Government expenditures primilary included the standing army which stayed at home (except in the case of Texas and California).
Jun 22nd 2008, 3:29 pm
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Libertarianism was the law of the land in the US in the 1800s.
- No federal income tax <ting>
- No welfare <ting>
- No drug laws <ting>
- No roads <uh-urgghhhh>
- No laws against duels <ting>
- Everybody could carry a gun (it was expected) <ting> <ting>
- No laws against robber barons <uh-urgh>
- Federal Government expenditures primilary included the standing army which stayed at home (except in the case of Texas and California). Our survey said <uh-urghh>
Jun 22nd 2008, 11:52 pm
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Libertarianism has its appeal, especially if you're young.
Who wouldn't like less/no taxes?
Who wouldn't like the govt not bossing you PERSONALLY around? (after all parents have bossed you enough)
Young folk tend to feel invincible, so they don't believe they'll need help from the govt.
It worked back in the wild west - and there is certainly an appeal to having more individual freedoms.
Of course, then everyone else gets the same freedom, and some of those folks aren't that nice. Too many of us here now imo for it to work. But I can understand the appeal - I'd be delighted to not pay taxes, and have the govt. not regulate me - who wouldn't. However, then there's the downsides...
Jun 23rd 2008, 5:20 am
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
All stupid arguments aside, Michael, I consider myself a social libertarian, but but I'm not too big on the fiscal stuff. I'd be happier with leaner government, but my biggest concern, especially at this time, is the increase of the feeling of security at the expense of the freedoms, however minor they may seem.
Which is why I declared myself politically independent inasmuch as I'm neither left-leaning nor right-leaning, just anti-tyranny.
Are you a part of the Free State Project, BTW?
Which is why I declared myself politically independent inasmuch as I'm neither left-leaning nor right-leaning, just anti-tyranny.
Are you a part of the Free State Project, BTW?
Jun 23rd 2008, 5:25 am
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Jun 23rd 2008, 5:46 am
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
i think i am the only one on the board that is one lol
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Jun 23rd 2008, 11:00 am
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
From what I've heard, you're not far off. I have a couple of colleagues who are members of the local Libertarian Party, one who actually ran for office, and from their reports... Yeah. They couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.
Jun 25th 2008, 6:47 am
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Are you a part of the Free State Project, BTW?
Now Nevada would have work !
From what I've heard, you're not far off. I have a couple of colleagues who are members of the local Libertarian Party, one who actually ran for office, and from their reports... Yeah. They couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.
Jun 25th 2008, 8:29 am
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Re: Libertarian ? am i the only one ?
Nevada's half-way there already...
