K1 (Arranged Merrage)
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Originally posted by lpdiver
I just bristled a bit at your labeling of his religious convictions as frivolous, and yes I know that wasn't your intent.
I just bristled a bit at your labeling of his religious convictions as frivolous, and yes I know that wasn't your intent.
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Originally posted by Paul Gani
There are no religions to my knowledge that forbid or even discourage a
prospective husband and wife from meeting prior to marriage.
However, some areas of the world have cultural traditions in which such
practices are common.
Paulgani
There are no religions to my knowledge that forbid or even discourage a
prospective husband and wife from meeting prior to marriage.
However, some areas of the world have cultural traditions in which such
practices are common.
Paulgani
It is pretty much irrelevant because the OP and his fiance have met before, and have known each other for their whole lives.
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"Leslie66" <member14032@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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> It is pretty much irrelevant because the OP and his fiance have met
> before, and have known each other for their whole lives.
I did some online research, and if one is to believe this:
http://www.islamonline.net/askabouti...uestionID=2942
"Islam teaches that parents and relatives, who know their children best, are
to look for mates for them and then arrange meetings between them
(supervised with girl's father present during the whole interview)."
I found some other passages interesting:
"The man has the duty of caring for the needs of his wife in every aspect.
She is to be provided with proper shelter, clothing, food, health care,
education and help in her duties in the home, to the best of the man's
ability to provide. Extras are expected when the man is able to provide
them, such as fine jewelry, beautiful clothing and other finery within his
ability."
elsewhere on the site:
"A Muslim woman has the right to handle her own money. She does not have to
support the family. Her husband has no right to demand that she contribute
to the household expenses or that she hand over to him her money, no matter
what its source is."
"She could just as well demand that he works two jobs, rather than that she
work and pay expenses."
Paulgani
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> It is pretty much irrelevant because the OP and his fiance have met
> before, and have known each other for their whole lives.
I did some online research, and if one is to believe this:
http://www.islamonline.net/askabouti...uestionID=2942
"Islam teaches that parents and relatives, who know their children best, are
to look for mates for them and then arrange meetings between them
(supervised with girl's father present during the whole interview)."
I found some other passages interesting:
"The man has the duty of caring for the needs of his wife in every aspect.
She is to be provided with proper shelter, clothing, food, health care,
education and help in her duties in the home, to the best of the man's
ability to provide. Extras are expected when the man is able to provide
them, such as fine jewelry, beautiful clothing and other finery within his
ability."
elsewhere on the site:
"A Muslim woman has the right to handle her own money. She does not have to
support the family. Her husband has no right to demand that she contribute
to the household expenses or that she hand over to him her money, no matter
what its source is."
"She could just as well demand that he works two jobs, rather than that she
work and pay expenses."
Paulgani
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But...perhaps they met before the marriage was arranged! Once it was decided that they were to be wed then they could no longer meet? Do they keep sexes segregated from birth...I think not. Maybe they can get a waiver...(for HAVING met before) jejeje.
Originally posted by Leslie66
It is pretty much irrelevant because the OP and his fiance have met before, and have known each other for their whole lives.
It is pretty much irrelevant because the OP and his fiance have met before, and have known each other for their whole lives.
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I want to thank everyone for their comments. I have decided to visit my fience in few weeks. Based on everyones comment I concluded that if I apply for k1 and expect to get a waver for 2 years meeting requirement, can be risky and waste of time if it doesn't get approved. I see no harm in visiting her and reduce my chances of her getting approved.
I will keep you guys posted once I get back and apply.
Thanks
- Sean
I will keep you guys posted once I get back and apply.
Thanks
- Sean
Originally posted by sean007
Hello All,
I was wondering if anyone has experince with K1 visa while requirement of meeting fience has not been met.
I've known my fience all my life. We even have pictures together but I didn't happen to be there in last 2 years. Its more like 2.5 or 3 years ago. I am originaly from pakistan and its an arrange merriage.
Has anyone experienced this?
- Sean
Hello All,
I was wondering if anyone has experince with K1 visa while requirement of meeting fience has not been met.
I've known my fience all my life. We even have pictures together but I didn't happen to be there in last 2 years. Its more like 2.5 or 3 years ago. I am originaly from pakistan and its an arrange merriage.
Has anyone experienced this?
- Sean
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Originally posted by sean007
I want to thank everyone for their comments. I have decided to visit my fience in few weeks.
I want to thank everyone for their comments. I have decided to visit my fience in few weeks.
If your family is from Pakistan, and you are going to be there, it may be worth your while to contact the Consul's Immigrant Visa Unit and inquire whether you would be able to file a petition I-130 for your spouse. Be sure to tell them that you are a USC of a Pakistani family. In Greece, for example, the Consulate will honor a petition from a Greek American, resident or not, even though their website (and Pakistan's, IIRC) says differently. Since you are going to be there to see her, you could effectively marry and file on that trip and your bride would be able to enter with a CR-1 visa. You would need all your paperwork with you, of course.
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"Paul Gani" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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: I did some online research, and if one is to believe this:
:
: http://www.islamonline.net/askabouti...uestionID=2942
: Paulgani
Speaking as a Muslim female, the statement about the parents providing a match
is correct but she *does not* in any way, have to accept the match. In fact,
she can search for and choose her own mate, which is what I did. Just to
clarify:
This statement, "The man has the duty of caring for the needs of his wife in
every aspect.
She is to be provided with proper shelter, clothing, food, health care,
education and help in her duties in the home, to the best of the man's ability
to provide." Is true. In our religion, that is how it is and had been for
other religions for centuries. Until the mid-20th century.
This statement, "Extras are expected when the man is able to provide them,
such as fine jewelry, beautiful clothing and other finery within his ability."
is utter crap. If the man wants to shower his wife with extravagant gifts and
can do so, fine but it is not nor has it ever been expected or required,
except by shallow and greedy traditional brides and their families.
"A Muslim woman has the right to handle her own money. She does not have to
support the family. Her husband has no right to demand that she contribute to
the household expenses or that she hand over to him her money, no matter what
its source is." This is true, also. The reason why these rules were put in
place in the first place was because women used to inherit nothing and became
as property when she married and everything she had belonged to the male (that
was a custom in American and British society as well and many African tribes,
too). But let's be sensible--what woman would not want to contribute money to
her own family? Of course, the woman would and does use her money as well to
make the family life more easy when she needs to.
: "She could just as well demand that he works two jobs, rather than that she
: work and pay expenses." Ya know, this is true also but I have never in all
my life, heard of a woman doing so. Unless, like I mentioned previously, there
is something in it for her family and she is greedy. This falls under two
specific cultures who do that, but I won't name them here.
Islamonline.com is run by a group of Christians who saw fit to describe Islam
the way *they* think they know it. They are a bunch of Jackasses. I wouldn't
take one thing they say as credible fact, not even if they told me the sun was
yellow unless I saw it for myself. They are notorious for creating strife
among the religions for the sport of debate. If you want to learn true answers
try another site.
J.
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: I did some online research, and if one is to believe this:
:
: http://www.islamonline.net/askabouti...uestionID=2942
: Paulgani
Speaking as a Muslim female, the statement about the parents providing a match
is correct but she *does not* in any way, have to accept the match. In fact,
she can search for and choose her own mate, which is what I did. Just to
clarify:
This statement, "The man has the duty of caring for the needs of his wife in
every aspect.
She is to be provided with proper shelter, clothing, food, health care,
education and help in her duties in the home, to the best of the man's ability
to provide." Is true. In our religion, that is how it is and had been for
other religions for centuries. Until the mid-20th century.
This statement, "Extras are expected when the man is able to provide them,
such as fine jewelry, beautiful clothing and other finery within his ability."
is utter crap. If the man wants to shower his wife with extravagant gifts and
can do so, fine but it is not nor has it ever been expected or required,
except by shallow and greedy traditional brides and their families.
"A Muslim woman has the right to handle her own money. She does not have to
support the family. Her husband has no right to demand that she contribute to
the household expenses or that she hand over to him her money, no matter what
its source is." This is true, also. The reason why these rules were put in
place in the first place was because women used to inherit nothing and became
as property when she married and everything she had belonged to the male (that
was a custom in American and British society as well and many African tribes,
too). But let's be sensible--what woman would not want to contribute money to
her own family? Of course, the woman would and does use her money as well to
make the family life more easy when she needs to.
: "She could just as well demand that he works two jobs, rather than that she
: work and pay expenses." Ya know, this is true also but I have never in all
my life, heard of a woman doing so. Unless, like I mentioned previously, there
is something in it for her family and she is greedy. This falls under two
specific cultures who do that, but I won't name them here.
Islamonline.com is run by a group of Christians who saw fit to describe Islam
the way *they* think they know it. They are a bunch of Jackasses. I wouldn't
take one thing they say as credible fact, not even if they told me the sun was
yellow unless I saw it for myself. They are notorious for creating strife
among the religions for the sport of debate. If you want to learn true answers
try another site.
J.