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Old Mar 18th 2004, 11:15 am
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Why is so that K-1 can get EAD at POE and can get SSAN right away? My wife is coming in April on K-3 and she will have to wait 90 days for all this. She is already married to an US citizen. When K-1 is just planning to get married.
This makes no sense and is so unfair towards the person who is an US citizen with a legal wife compared to the K-1 spouse.
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We ask are congressperson to help but look waht they did to us when they made the laws.
When an Mexican can work right away and so can a K-1 but not K-3.
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Why is so that K-1 can get EAD at POE and can get SSAN right away? My wife is coming in April on K-3 and she will have to wait 90 days for all this. She is already married to an US citizen. When K-1 is just planning to get married.
This makes no sense and is so unfair towards the person who is an US citizen with a legal wife compared to the K-1 spouse.
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We ask are congressperson to help but look waht they did to us when they made the laws.
When an Mexican can work right away and so can a K-1 but not K-3.
I'M WITH YOU!!! Just wandering why? My husband's coming over and he has to apply to work but if he was just my fiance he could work? How is that logical?
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Originally posted by bguy1954
When an Mexican can work right away and so can a K-1 but not K-3.
Perhaps you'd like to clarify your thoughts here?

I wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions about what you actually mean here.
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Originally posted by meauxna
Perhaps you'd like to clarify your thoughts here?

I wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions about what you actually mean here.
OK sorry did not mean to demean someother culture. what i di mean really is it is easier for someone like a mexican to come here and be able to work before my legal spouse can. the rules are not equal for all and seem to favor workers who have large voting groups in america.
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OK sorry did not mean to demean someother culture. what i di mean really is it is easier for someone like a mexican to come here and be able to work before my legal spouse can. the rules are not equal for all and seem to favor workers who have large voting groups in america.
I still don't understand...in what way can Mexicans come here to work immediately? I know a few who'd line up if you can enlighten me!

O wait, you say before you legal spouse. Do you mean Mexicans who take illegal work? Surely your wife would not be interested in working 'under the table' at some of these tough jobs? Or better jobs, but with illegal documents?

And by "someone like a mexican" I guess you'll include Central Americans, Asians, Canadians (close by!) or Brits? I've known people from all these countries/regions who have worked illegally in the US. If your wife wants to do that, seems she'd surely be able to.

I'm in no way defending the crazy K1/K3 work authorization scheme USCIS is running, but I don't see a need to drag another country into it.
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Originally posted by bguy1954
what i di mean really is it is easier for someone like a mexican to come here and be able to work before my legal spouse can.
Not legally.
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The meaning is clear even if the example is somewhat distasteful. He is suggesting that a Mexican who is engaged to an American can obtain work authorization more quickly than the spouse of an American.

Now, remove all references to people of any particular nationality and you are left with the following question: why can fiancees obtain work authorization at POE, whilst spouses can not?
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The meaning is clear even if the example is somewhat distasteful. He is suggesting that a Mexican who is engaged to an American can obtain work authorization more quickly than the spouse of an American.

Now, remove all references to people of any particular nationality and you are left with the following question: why can fiancees obtain work authorization at POE, whilst spouses can not?
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[/QUOTE] Now, remove all references to people of any particular nationality and you are left with the following question: why can fiancees obtain work authorization at POE, whilst spouses can not? [/QUOTE]

There is definately some reform that the current immigration process needs done, and this is one area that can be reformed. Some of the language with how the US offers a fiancee a job immediately, and not a US citizen (taxpayer) spouse a job! Something there just doesnt seem right!
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Originally posted by bguy1954

Why is so that K-1 can get EAD at POE and can get SSAN right away? My wife is coming in April on K-3 and she will have to wait 90 days for all this. She is already married to an US citizen. When K-1 is just planning to get married.
This makes no sense and is so unfair towards the person who is an US citizen with a legal wife compared to the K-1 spouse.
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We ask are congressperson to help but look waht they did to us when they made the laws.
When an Mexican can work right away and so can a K-1 but not K-3.
Hi:

Why? Because.

"The answer is easy if you take it logically." Paul Simon
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Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:

Why? Because.

"The answer is easy if you take it logically." Paul Simon
my response was not about illegals at all! Doesn't matter the nationality, if you are working illegally.. well that's illegal. ..we all know that..so let's not get into the race thing because America is made up of immigrants of all races...My problem is that a married spouse of an American citizen who comes here legally should be able to work right away...especially if a fiance of American citizen can..hopefully one day it will change...hey atleast k-3ers have a multiple entry visa! K-1s have to apply for that so I guess we each have the one up huh!
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"Why? Because."

Well, then why not make it logical. It seems like enough US citizen do want
to make it "right". The questions is why is not getting done?


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    > Originally posted by bguy1954
    > >
    > > Why is so that
    > K-1 can get EAD at POE and can get SSAN right away? My wife is coming in
    > April on K-3 and she will have to wait 90 days for all this. She is
    > already married to an US citizen. When K-1 is just planning to get
    > married.
    > > This makes no sense and is so unfair towards the person who
    > is an US citizen with a legal wife compared to the K-1 spouse.
    > > w
    > > We
    > ask are congressperson to help but look waht they did to us when they
    > made the laws.
    > > When an Mexican can work right away and so can a K-1
    > but not K-3.
    > >
    > Hi:
    > Why? Because.
    > "The answer is easy
    > if you take it logically." Paul Simon
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Old Mar 18th 2004, 5:45 pm
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bguy1954 wrote:

    >
    > Why is so that K-1 can get EAD at POE and can get SSAN right
    > away? My wife is coming in April on K-3 and she will have to wait 90
    > days for all this. She is already married to an US citizen. When K-1 is
    > just planning to get married.
    > This makes no sense and is so unfair
    > towards the person who is an US citizen with a legal wife compared to
    > the K-1 spouse.
    > w
    > We ask are congressperson to help but look waht they
    > did to us when they made the laws.
    > When an Mexican can work right away
    > and so can a K-1 but not K-3.
    >
    >

Excuse me.... If you mean illegal workers that are Mexican or any other
nationality, then your K-3 is free to work on arrival under the same
conditions... PLUS.. if they want to do it legally, the K-3 can apply
for and will probably receive EAD to work.
 
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CalgaryAMC wrote:

    > The meaning is clear even if the example is somewhat distasteful. He is
    > suggesting that a Mexican who is engaged to an American can obtain work
    > authorization more quickly than the spouse of an American.
    >

No, that isn't what is was saying. He comment was obviously not
regarding Mexicans on a K-1, but undocument workers. And if his spouse
wants to do that, she is just as able to work illegally as they are.
Or.. all she has to do is apply for EAD.
 
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ricardoswife wrote:

    > Originally posted by Folinskyinla
    >
    >>Hi:
    >>Why?
    >
    > Because.
    >
    >>"The answer is easy if you take it logically." Paul Simon
    >
    >
    >
    > my response was not about illegals at all! Doesn't matter the
    > nationality, if you are working illegally.. well that's illegal. ..we
    > all know that..so let's not get into the race thing because America is
    > made up of immigrants of all races.

Your post might not have been about "illegals", but the OP's post
certainly was. Or do you actually think he said Mexicans when he meant
K-1's? Some slip of the tongue that was.
 


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